Marc Guehi

[madras]

Just now, timeEd32 said:

 

I don't think we would have paid more than whatever we think he's worth, no. And it's possible Parish has been impossible to deal with. But outgoings to clear the necessary financial room? Very possible.

But not for this player. We've hit his ceiling so bringing an extra 20mill in isn't going to get him as we would t pay it. It probably is stopping us with the RW though that we should now be going for. 

[SUPERTOON]

So the bed wetters were correct ? In all seriousness something hasn’t been quite right this window, however I’m glad we aren’t spending 70 million on him.

[The Prophet]

1 minute ago, HayDen Traces said:

Mitchell's done nothing of substance since coming in. This was a vital window and its been fumbled badly.

 

Mitchell has probably had very little input into the window mind, in terms of targets, etc. We’re all just guessing though.

[54]

10 minutes ago, Kimbo said:

It’s embarrassing because we should’ve moved on ages ago to another target. Hopefully they still have someone in mind and there’s still time.

How do we know that they haven't like? All these leaks have come from the Palace end, and not ours, we tend to be very tight lipped about everything.

 

Clubs don't just go for one target at a time likes is a binary thing, there'll be multiple conversations/deals going on at the same time.

 

To me its seems Guehi was clearly our primary target, and we've wanted to sign him within our terms, so we've waited until a point where its clear its not going to happen before committing to the other deals before pivoting to other targets, whether thats the right thing or not, will depend on the next 36 hours.

 

One thing that is for sure, the sensationalism from the press from the beginning has been fucking wank, and hasn't helped in any way, I also don't want to ever do business with Palace again   

 

[Sibierski]

All summer negotiating with Palace and we’ve got nothing to show for it  Find it so hard to believe it’s all rosey behind the scenes and the leaks will come during international break.

[Kid Icarus]

5 minutes ago, STM said:

 

 

These two things are inextricably linked though right? 

 

The only knowledge you have is based on what you are told by the press.

 

I'm not saying you are wrong, just that you and I have no idea what's been going on behind the scenes.

 

Whatever has been going on, it certainly hasn't been successful but the success might not be made from lack of effort.

Not really, because what we know is mainly informed by whether we've signed anyone or not and it being less than 48 hours until the deadline. If we'd been linked with everyone or noone all the time or none of the time that would still be the case. It's unbelievably poor.

 

 

Edited August 29, 2024 by Kid Icarus

[Keggy_Keagal]

2 minutes ago, timeEd32 said:

 

I can't take any of these Mike Ashley comparisons seriously. We've stretch our spending as far as we possibly can since the new owners walked through the door.

It's because of Ashley we've been at the limit of PSR. His fucking ghost still haunts this club.  

[Bimpy474]

I understand that it's not looking good, but what's the rush to call it pathetic and amateur ?  None of us know the details, what if Palace agreed the deal in private and have now backed out, screwing us over. 

 

And what if, and this I really hope, the deal still happens and it shuts a few gobs.  We're not being run by Ashley anymore, I never feel the need to slag the club off now, everything I've seen is geared to  moving forward. Totally get it doesn't seems so in this window, but the rush to misery and negativity is mental imo.

[timeEd32]

1 minute ago, madras said:

But not for this player. We've hit his ceiling so bringing an extra 20mill in isn't going to get him as we would t pay it. It probably is stopping us with the RW though that we should now be going for. 

 

I think you're more confident than I am that we have £60m or whatever to spend without any exits.

[Erikse]

6 minutes ago, timeEd32 said:

 

I can't take any of these Mike Ashley comparisons seriously. We've stretch our spending as far as we possibly can since the new owners walked through the door.

 

I'm not making comparisons. They had time, and they clearly had money to spend. Something went wrong here, I'm sure the club is disappointed with how it went aswell. No point in going out of your way to make up excuses is my point.

 

 

Edited August 29, 2024 by Erikse

[HayDen Traces]

Just now, Sibierski said:

All summer negotiating with Palace and we’ve got nothing to show for it  Find it so hard to believe it’s all rosey behind the scenes and the leaks will come during international break.

Something doesn't feel right at all.

[gbandit]

I’ve got no doubts that we’ve been all in on Guehi. My concerns with this deal have always been that we’re paying higher than his value and we seemingly don’t have any alternatives that we’re realistically going to go for. If that doesn’t change in the next day and a bit then this has been an absolutely horrendous effort by us and surely multiple key people are at fault. I still think we can have a very good season but it’s the impact this will have on existing players, on Howe and future efforts to retain players which is the major concern.

 

It feels like if we don’t strengthen and don’t get into Europe then the project is going to take several steps backwards. We basically have to somehow get a top five spot, possibly a Europa spot in order for this to not turn into a genuine disaster 

 

 

Edited August 29, 2024 by gbandit

[STM]

1 minute ago, The Prophet said:

 

Mitchell has probably had very little input into the window mind, in terms of targets, etc. We’re all just guessing though.

 

The problem is that the bedwetters are drastically over stating the extent of the problem.

 

We've had a poor window? So what? Are we not allowed a window where things don't go to plan like we wanted? We still have a good side and a good manager.

 

(Not aimed at you)

[OoOGazOoO]

It's an absolute joke from a Palace POV in the sense they have moved goalpost on their 'desired' bid to secure him, supposedly.

 

From our side, we better have plenty of other irons in the fire otherwise this has been very, very badly handled.

[timeEd32]

Just now, Erikse said:

 

I'm not making comparisons. They had time, and they clearly had money to spend. Something went wrong here, I'm sure the club is disappointed with how it went aswell.

 

I don't think it's at all clear that we have money to spend. 

 

But, if we do, it also takes a bit more than one failed big money transfer for me to jump to pathetic and embarrassing. We lived that for over a decade and this isn't it.

[The Prophet]

I guess if this isn't done in the next 24 hours, we'll wait it out, similar to Botman?

[Kid Icarus]

2 minutes ago, Bimpy474 said:

I understand that it's not looking good, but what's the rush to call it pathetic and amateur ?  None of us know the details, what if Palace agreed the deal in private and have now backed out, screwing us over. 

 

And what if, and this I really hope, the deal still happens and it shuts a few gobs.  We're not being run by Ashley anymore, I never feel the need to slag the club off now, everything I've seen is geared to moving forward. Totally get it doesn't seems so in this window, but the rush to misery and negativity is mental imo.

 

Palace and Parish are famous for this, it's not them who are unprofessional if you bank the house on their word. 

[GeordieDazzler]

I think the gamble from Palaces point of view is that the Euros bump to his reputation isn’t going to last if they have a shit season. 
 

A player like Olise is less dependent on the fortunes of the team, so his new deal with release clause was always going to retain its value barring an ACL. It’s hardly a banker that will happen with Guehi.

[The Butcher]

Whey, here's STM again telling everyone how to act. Class.

[The Prophet]

I'd imagine Texor will want to sell, given what's going down with Lyon and Everton.

[STM]

3 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Not really, because what we know is mainly informed by whether we've signed anyone or not and it being less than 48 hours until the deadline. If we'd been linked with everyone or noone all the time or none of the time that would still be the case. It's unbelievably poor.

 

 

 

 

Aye but you said the way they have gone about it is poor. The problem is that you don't know how they've gone about it. You just know it's been a shit window, which I agree with. 

[Guest]

Well this is not fun

[The Prophet]

 

[Erikse]

3 minutes ago, timeEd32 said:

 

I don't think it's at all clear that we have money to spend. 

 

But, if we do, it also takes a bit more than one failed big money transfer for me to jump to pathetic and embarrassing. We lived that for over a decade and this isn't it.

 

We've made really high bids for Guehi.. The first january window doesn't count towards PSR anymore. Everything points to us having money to spend.

 

 

Edited August 29, 2024 by Erikse

[GeordieDazzler]