STM Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago Just now, Shearergol said: Yep, so 4 wingers who do the same thing. What I said. so in those games where it’s just not working, we can bring a different player on to try the same thing. using half our reported budget. You are smart enough not believe in "reported budgets" man. Our journalists don't even understand how PSR works. 4 wingers who do the same thing is am odd criticism to label at 4 good wingers. What exactly were you after? It's been explained why we need physically capable players. Yes we'd all love more technical players but try and find one, it's not so easy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago £50m is a Tonali or Reijnders type on the continent. We can get an Elanga-like player for half that price shopping away from the PL premium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Are you ignoring the attacking talents not playing in the premier league? I'm saying the Premier League represents the best talent pool out of anywhere. Maybe I shouldn't have said 'best', because some of the European leagues still harbor immense talent. The likes of PSG and Real Madrid will still have some of the very best on their books. Ultimately what I'm saying is, I bet there's not many wingers on the continent who are realistically attainable who are as good as Elanga. I mean Scott McTominay just owned Serie A ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago Just now, STM said: You are smart enough not believe in "reported budgets" man. Our journalists don't even understand how PSR works. 4 wingers who do the same thing is am odd criticism to label at 4 good wingers. What exactly were you after? It's been explained why we need physically capable players. Yes we'd all love more technical players but try and find one, it's not so easy? I’d like a winger who can beat fullbacks with skill. Or a winger who is more of a forward. They exist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago Gordon, Barnes, Livramento, Hall, Tonali have all at some point been criticised as being a waste of money when we have PSR limitations. Every single one of them has been a success and would be sold for the same or more now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago Just now, Nucasol said: £50m is a Tonali or Reijnders type on the continent. We can get an Elanga-like player for half that price shopping away from the PL premium. People keep saying similar but never come up with names. I'm sure we'd have signed Reijnders but funny enough a club with much more clout signed him first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago Pros PL proven Can play more than one position Takes a good set piece Ludicrously fast Doesn’t get injured much Good pro Cons Relatively expensive Bit of a clean shirt Possible soft cunt Nee tricks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 6 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Are people confident we can strengthen the squad adequately, if we spend 50 million on Elanga? The RW position was always going to be costly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: Not a single fan on here thought we were overpaying on isak. Not on here, no. But I laugh now about the ESPN clowns -- Burley in particular -- who were roundly dismissive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 5 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Is that with a big sale or without one ? Big, as in someone over 30/40m, without. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago Just now, Disco said: Pros PL proven Can play more than one position Takes a good set piece Ludicrously fast Doesn’t get injured much Good pro Cons Relatively expensive --------------------- Bit of a clean shirt Possible soft cunt Nee tricks This is basically a contradiction imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: I’d like a winger who can beat fullbacks with skill. Or a winger who is more of a forward. They exist. A one who we can afford? Fee and wages? Who has proven themselves to a certain level? I'm not trying to be clever, but I've never heard anyone come up with any names. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 9 minutes ago, junkhead said: I can see how he can be an asset but so underwhelming.. I've been hoping for years for some genuine football quality from that position - touch, vision, free kick ability, curled left footed shots.. where's our scouting really? fucking Chelsea have like 3 brazilians that match the description and probably won't ever play for them, yet would be first choice for us after a season with Eddie. Yep, the only left footed players Eddie has bought are Targett and Botman. Not good enough So basically you want a different manager, system and style of play. Eddie Howe is signing Eddie Howe players that he has success with, and people are surprised and annoyed by it. You want Chelsea's signings that will arrive at their club to pass the ball side to side endlessly under Maresca. Have you seen how unproductive their wingers have been playing that way? You want Eddie Howe to succeed, but with players he's not as keen on. How? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Nucasol said: £50m is a Tonali or Reijnders type on the continent. We can get an Elanga-like player for half that price shopping away from the PL premium. Top forwards are usually way more than top midfielders tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago (edited) 11 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Are people confident we can strengthen the squad adequately, if we spend 50 million on Elanga? I think we know what we need. So whatever we spend I think there will be enough in the budget left or we wouldn’t do the deal in the first place Edited 15 hours ago by Andy84 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 1 minute ago, STM said: A one who we can afford? Fee and wages? Who has proven themselves to a certain level? I'm not trying to be clever, but I've never heard anyone come up with any names. That’s why we have scouts in fairness. We have one who has proven himself to be able to find a gem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago Just now, STM said: A one who we can afford? Fee and wages? Who has proven themselves to a certain level? I'm not trying to be clever, but I've never heard anyone come up with any names. The lad from Monaco has played CL last season and is technically brilliant, would give us something completely different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 1 minute ago, Yorkie said: This is basically a contradiction imo. Relative to perceived excitement/reputstion of signing I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 2 minutes ago, STM said: A one who we can afford? Fee and wages? Who has proven themselves to a certain level? I'm not trying to be clever, but I've never heard anyone come up with any names. If the criteria is someone who has played well in the premier league and will sign for us, you’ve got me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 2 minutes ago, STM said: People keep saying similar but never come up with names. I'm sure we'd have signed Reijnders but funny enough a club with much more clout signed him first. Matteo Politano (Napoli) Edon Zhegrova (Lille) Karim Adeyemi (Dortmund) Bakayoko (PSV) Kubo (Sociedad) Lee Kang-in (PSG) All would excite me more than Elanga as signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 15 minutes ago, SAK said: Hmmm…I was kinda hoping for more imaginative targets to maximise our budget plus I don’t rate him that highly as from the little I’ve seen he’s a pace merchant with poor decision making. Calling him a pace merchant is harsh, he's rapid but his delivery is quality as well. Think him and Isak would combine really well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo123 Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Disco said: Pros PL proven Can play more than one position Takes a good set piece Ludicrously fast Doesn’t get injured much Good pro Cons Relatively expensive Bit of a clean shirt Possible soft cunt Nee tricks It's a yes from me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 17 minutes ago, Yorkie said: I'm saying the Premier League represents the best talent pool out of anywhere. Maybe I shouldn't have said 'best', because some of the European leagues still harbor immense talent. The likes of PSG and Real Madrid will still have some of the very best on their books. Ultimately what I'm saying is, I bet there's not many wingers on the continent who are realistically attainable who are as good as Elanga. I mean Scott McTominay just owned Serie A ffs. Tbf, most if not all those players were signed from abroad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Nucasol said: Matteo Politano (Napoli) Edon Zhegrova (Lille) Karim Adeyemi (Dortmund) Bakayoko (PSV) Kubo (Sociedad) Lee Kang-in (PSG) All would excite me more than Elanga as signings. politano? He's 31 with 3 goals this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Nucasol said: Matteo Politano (Napoli) Edon Zhegrova (Lille) Karim Adeyemi (Dortmund) Bakayoko (PSV) Kubo (Sociedad) Lee Kang-in (PSG) All would excite me more than Elanga as signings. Having watched some of all of them, and a lot in some cases, I would rather Elanga than all of those players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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