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2 minutes ago, Nucasol said:

Matteo Politano (Napoli)

Edon Zhegrova (Lille)

Karim Adeyemi (Dortmund)

Bakayoko (PSV)

Kubo (Sociedad)

Lee Kang-in (PSG)

 

All would excite me more than Elanga as signings.

 

With respect, it's not about "excitement", are those players actually better than Elanga? 

 

Just so it's clear, I'm not saying for a second whether I know that they are or aren't. I genuinely don't know anything about those players. What I'm saying is, would you stake your job on it?

 

Ultimately that's what's going on here. A manager has to not only make sure the numbers work for the club but also that a player not working out isn't going to cost him his job in 12 months. You might say that's dramatic but I watched plenty on this very forum question our manager about 6 months ago.. he makes a couple of shite signings and they will be back.

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He'll be a very good signing, I think anyone saying he wouldn't is nuts but, and I know this is stupid to say, I'd have loved to have had an inspiring left field signng after waiting 3 years to fill that fucking position.

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2 minutes ago, Thumbheed said:

He'll be a very good signing, I think anyone saying he wouldn't is nuts but, and I know this is stupid to say, I'd have loved to have had an inspiring left field signng after waiting 3 years to fill that fucking position.


Not for the money being quoted it certainly isn't. 

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I’m all in on Howe ball but the criticisms here are valid.  Elanga would be our 4th direct runner winger. It’s a variation on a single style.  A style that usually works but often struggles against a low block defence that requires some guile and not pace and power to break. 
 

And we do like a British based player. Elanga isn’t particularly young like Tino or Hall so the excitement is capped.  
 

I don’t mind Elanga. He’s a good player. But I would be disappointed if we don’t sign some type of attacking baller in the window.  I’m not expecting Cherki but give me Joao Pedro or someone.  

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2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

I’m all in on Howe ball but the criticisms here are valid.  Elanga would be our 4th direct runner winger. It’s a variation on a single style.  A style that usually works but often struggles against a low block defence that requires some guile and not pace and power to break. 
 

And we do like a British based player. Elanga isn’t particularly young like Tino or Hall so the excitement is capped.  
 

I don’t mind Elanga. He’s a good player. But I would be disappointed if we don’t sign some type of attacking baller in the window.  I’m not expecting Cherki but give me Joao Pedro or someone.  

Elanga’s only a few months older than tino, but I guess you mean when we signed him.

 

 

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Just now, Shearergol said:

Why? Age?

Yeah, mainly. I absolutely loved his game, haven’t watched him consistently for a while but I think whoever he signs for next will get a here-for-the-paycheck version of him and he’s only going to go one way even if he has occasional games where he’s amazing 

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12 minutes ago, Jaqen said:

 

Calling him a pace merchant is harsh, he's rapid but his delivery is quality as well. Think him and Isak would combine really well. 

Yep fuck it I’m in. Maybe he could be like what mane was to Liverpool is how I’m viewing it now 

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Just now, gbandit said:

Yeah, mainly. I absolutely loved his game, haven’t watched him consistently for a while but I think whoever he signs for next will get a here-for-the-paycheck version of him and he’s only going to go one way even if he has occasional games where he’s amazing 

2 years of greatness then sell him to Saudi for £80m

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10 minutes ago, STM said:

 

With respect, it's not about "excitement", are those players actually better than Elanga? 

 

Just so it's clear, I'm not saying for a second whether I know that they are or aren't. I genuinely don't know anything about those players. What I'm saying is, would you stake your job on it?

 

Ultimately that's what's going on here. A manager has to not only make sure the numbers work for the club but also that a player not working out isn't going to cost him his job in 12 months. You might say that's dramatic but I watched plenty on this very forum question our manager about 6 months ago.. he makes a couple of shite signings and they will be back.

 

Unfortunately the club have to make sure the numbers work first and foremost.

 

Our reluctance to do that in the first instance nearly cost us 10 points and left us with 3 transfer windows without a first team signing, having come off the back of the worst season for injuries I've ever witnessed. 

 

You'd also expect there to be extensive scouting going on to negate the risk of buying a dud, but the risk of paying more for a player who will probably be a succes over a player who may not adapt to this league will always be greater when signing the former leads to extra expenditure that makes us breach the financial constraints. 

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2 minutes ago, gbandit said:

Yeah, mainly. I absolutely loved his game, haven’t watched him consistently for a while but I think whoever he signs for next will get a here-for-the-paycheck version of him and he’s only going to go one way even if he has occasional games where he’s amazing 

 

suspect we'd have to make him our top earner too 

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I have seen quite a bit of Akliouche this season. He wouldn’t be cheap but absolutely nobody would be able to convince me that he’s not a much more talented player than Elanga. PSG have been after him but it seems like their interest might have cooled a bit. Also a player that would offer something different to what we have. Can also play more centrally if needed. 

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1 minute ago, Shearergol said:

Elantra’s only a few months older than tino, but I guess you mean when we signed him.

Exactly. 
 

Alos it feels like we are another Isak or Tonali away from being a top side. Not another Anthony Gordon away.  
 

When you sign a player you want to think he can become world class.  We don’t think that about Elanga. 

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8 minutes ago, STM said:

 

With respect, it's not about "excitement", are those players actually better than Elanga? 

 

Just so it's clear, I'm not saying for a second whether I know that they are or aren't. I genuinely don't know anything about those players. What I'm saying is, would you stake your job on it?

 

Ultimately that's what's going on here. A manager has to not only make sure the numbers work for the club but also that a player not working out isn't going to cost him his job in 12 months. You might say that's dramatic but I watched plenty on this very forum question our manager about 6 months ago.. he makes a couple of shite signings and they will be back.

Fair enough. It’s Eddie’s judgement and I’ll happily back him, he’s earned that in spades. The challenge is the budget and the tightrope between first team difference makers and building out depth. We’re in a horribly restricted situation trying to balance the two.

 

No doubt Eddie will turn him into another machine but I’m slightly suspect on this one. Praying the Sweden connection with Isak goes stratospheric.

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4 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

And we do like a British based player

I think they like a low risk signing, as thanks to PSR a £30m flop on a 5 year deal is a disaster, so better to take a banker at £40m, and generally speaking experience in the league is the best risk reduction you can get. Unlike Chelsea, Spurs, Man Utd etc can’t get away with wasting money every year.

 

Elanga may not become a superstar but he probably won’t flop either.

 

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22 minutes ago, Nucasol said:

Matteo Politano (Napoli)

Edon Zhegrova (Lille)

Karim Adeyemi (Dortmund)

Bakayoko (PSV)

Kubo (Sociedad)

Lee Kang-in (PSG)

 

All would excite me more than Elanga as signings.


Why? They’re all worse than Elanga. Some considerably so. 

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