Anthony Elanga

[nemtizz]

Anything below 45m and this is a good signing. Howe's hit record speaks for itself but bemoaning (rightfully so) PSR but shopping in the PL is backwards af.

 

Do wonder how he'll fair against a low block. Might not be up to the RW to unlock them but that's all I ask for from this window. When all else fails out wide we're lost.

[The College Dropout]

3 minutes ago, Ikon said:

I have seen quite a bit of Akliouche this season. He wouldn’t be cheap but absolutely nobody would be able to convince me that he’s not a much more talented player than Elanga. PSG have been after him but it seems like their interest might have cooled a bit. Also a player that would offer something different to what we have. Can also play more centrally if needed. 

Agreed. But he’s also been less productive in a less competitive league. But he’s a baller. Works hard.  Seems fast enough.  Seems like he would cost £50m or so too 

[Thumbheed]

16 minutes ago, Thumbheed said:

 

Unfortunately the club have to make sure the numbers work first and foremost.

 

Our reluctance to do that in the first instance nearly cost us 10 points and left us with 3 transfer windows without a first team signing, having come off the back of the worst season for injuries I've ever witnessed. 

 

You'd also expect there to be extensive scouting going on to negate the risk of buying a dud, but the risk of paying more for a player who will probably be a succes over a player who may not adapt to this league will always be greater when signing the former leads to extra expenditure that makes us breach the financial constraints. 

 

Although having said that, I'm absolutely the biggest advocate for buying the Monaco winger who'd cost €60-70m so probably best ignoring me.

[McCormick]

6 minutes ago, Ikon said:

I have seen quite a bit of Akliouche this season. He wouldn’t be cheap but absolutely nobody would be able to convince me that he’s not a much more talented player than Elanga. PSG have been after him but it seems like their interest might have cooled a bit. Also a player that would offer something different to what we have. Can also play more centrally if needed. 

I’ve seen loads of Akliouche this season as well and while I like him a lot he’s not as good as Elanga and would cost the same amount. 

[Nucasol]

Just now, McCormick said:

Why? They’re all worse than Elanga. Some considerably so. 

Someone like Bakayoko, with a similar profile, is being touted for £25m. I think hoying £50m of readies on someone who doesn’t have the pedigree of a Tonali, Isak isn’t the most effective balance of budget. Balance being the key word as we need a significant number of players in, unless we plan on flogging a purple.

[The College Dropout]

1 minute ago, WilliamPS said:

I think they like a low risk signing, as thanks to PSR a £30m flop on a 5 year deal is a disaster, so better to take a banker at £40m, and generally speaking experience in the league is the best risk reduction you can get. Unlike Chelsea, Spurs, Man Utd etc can’t get away with wasting money every year.

 

Elanga may not become a superstar but he probably won’t flop either.

 

It’s not though is it. It’s £6m + wages a year. It’s not going to bankrupt us.  
 

Tonali is £11m per year on amortisation alone. Major risk from Serie A. Isak is £10m. By your logic we should go out and spend £60m on the best winger in France, Spain or whatever and get a sure thing. And with that I would actually agree with you. Not justifying spending £50m on Elanga. 
 

Which I also don’t mind. But it’s not great business. 

[SteV]

Another point to consider is he appears to be on pretty low wages (by PL standards) so giving him a sizeable increase wouldn’t be much of a problem.

[The College Dropout]

2 minutes ago, McCormick said:

I’ve seen loads of Akliouche this season as well and while I like him a lot he’s not as good as Elanga and would cost the same amount. 

You think it’s that definitive?

[Thumbheed]

24 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

Not for the money being quoted it certainly isn't. 

 

£40-50m seems par for the course for a prem proven winger. 

[Ikon]

3 minutes ago, McCormick said:

I’ve seen loads of Akliouche this season as well and while I like him a lot he’s not as good as Elanga and would cost the same amount. 

You must have been watching the wrong player then  

[The College Dropout]

Just now, Thumbheed said:

 

£40-50m seems par for the course for a prem proven winger. 

A Lor that can be bought for £20-30m before they play in the PL

[junkhead]

3 minutes ago, McCormick said:

Why? They’re all worse than Elanga. Some considerably so. 

 

Akliouche, Lee Kang-In would cost roughly the same and are far better footballers. Kubo supposedly has a 50m release clause too..

 

I understand Eddie values athleticism and I'll support him FOREVER in ANYTHING but I just dream what he can do with a young player with godlike talent like ROONY BARDGHJI.. he's free ffs.. Would be great seeing him sign for Spurs or some other wankers.

[Thumbheed]

14 minutes ago, McCormick said:

I’ve seen loads of Akliouche this season as well and while I like him a lot he’s not as good as Elanga and would cost the same amount. 

 

 He is.

 

He's has all the qualities Elanga has, maybe not as rapid but he's a playmaker first and foremost. 

[ponsaelius]

8 minutes ago, Ikon said:

I have seen quite a bit of Akliouche this season. He wouldn’t be cheap but absolutely nobody would be able to convince me that he’s not a much more talented player than Elanga. PSG have been after him but it seems like their interest might have cooled a bit. Also a player that would offer something different to what we have. Can also play more centrally if needed. 

 

Akliouche is the only name I've seen suggested where I agree I think he would be a good alternative and probably has a higher potential ceiling. 

 

However I don't think he'd be cheaper, probably a similar fee to all of the PSG attackers, and the tax situation in Monaco means we'd have to offer him a very good salary. I'm not sure he'd be a goer.

 

I don't think the right winger market is that strong personally - it's why Mbeumo is able to ask for 250k a week and it's why it's taken us so long to sign somebody. 

[Nucasol]

Just now, The College Dropout said:

A Lor that can be bought for £20-30m before they play in the PL

I think this is the crux of the debate. We’re doing the ESL 6 thing of signing higher priced PL proven players. But we don’t have ESL 6 revenues. That’s the problem when the wedge has to go a long way and you don’t have Beyoncé concerts or a steady stream of youth team sacrificial lambs to fall back on.

[McCormick]

Just now, The College Dropout said:

You think it’s that definitive?

It’s an opinion as they’re different types of player but Akliouche is a lot less physical and more “safe” in his play. Elanga’s certainly the more effective player.

[Conjo]

He's had two seasons with Nottingham Forest whom have been playing a low block and hitting teams on the counter. Hope he has a good work rate and is adaptable to a high press. I love his pace and that he can cut inside to shoot or go outside and cross, so he'll definitely strengthen our squad.

 

If Eddie wants him above cheaper alternatives and possibly at the expense of other areas that could use strenghtening then so be it.

 

I don't think there's an issue with the player, but I can see it coming back to bite Howe in the ass at the end of the season though in the event that we start getting injuries to a few key players for a lenghty period of time which starts affecting our results. We can't really excuse him for poor results due to injuries if we've burned our budget on say 2 new players.

[McCormick]

3 minutes ago, Ikon said:

You must have been watching the wrong player then  

I said I like him. Could say the same about yourself and Elanga though.

[Lush Vlad]

I’m sure it will be viewed as an over-pay. But I think he would be a great signing. 
 

Rapid, plays off both feet, takes set pieces, chips in with goals and assists. 
 

Like others. I would rather we sign this mythical, more technical player from abroad for less money. But I think he would fit in well here. 

[Thumbheed]

13 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

 

Akliouche is the only name I've seen suggested where I agree I think he would be a good alternative and probably has a higher potential ceiling. 

 

However I don't think he'd be cheaper, probably a similar fee to all of the PSG attackers, and the tax situation in Monaco means we'd have to offer him a very good salary. I'm not sure he'd be a goer.

 

I don't think the right winger market is that strong personally - it's why Mbeumo is able to ask for 250k a week and it's why it's taken us so long to sign somebody. 

 

Not cheaper but offers more. 

[The Prophet]

Just now, Lush Vlad said:

I’m sure it will be viewed as an over-pay. But I think he would be a great signing. 
 

Rapid, plays off both feet, takes set pieces, chips in with goals and assists. 
 

Like others. I would rather we sign this mythical, more technical player from abroad for less money. But I think he would fit in well here. 

 

Pretty much exactly where I'm at.

[McCormick]

3 minutes ago, Thumbheed said:

 

 He is.

 

He's has all the qualities Elanga has, maybe not as rapid but he's a playmaker first and foremost. 

He’s not as fast for sure and quite lightweight. Good player though, and I’d be happy with him for sure. I just don’t see how 50m for Akliouche is a great deal while the same money for a more effective player is being laughed at.

[ponsaelius]

Just now, Thumbheed said:

 

Not cheaper but offers more. 

 

Not sure. More technically gifted for sure and presses well enough to be a hit. Could also play midfield roles. Possibly higher ceiling.

 

But I would say Elanga is faster and has a better output in a stronger league and would do a better job if we stuck him up tops.

 

And they're the same age.

[Thumbheed]

10 minutes ago, McCormick said:

He’s not as fast for sure and quite lightweight. Good player though, and I’d be happy with him for sure. I just don’t see how 50m for Akliouche is a great deal while the same money for a more effective player is being laughed at.

 

It's his ability as a playmaker that sets him apart. You can't teach that quality and not many players are capable of it but it's invaluable to a team. 

 

Just need to look at thr impact Trippier has from RB to see the value of someone who sees things others don't.

[Shearergol]

1 minute ago, ponsaelius said:

 

Not sure. More technically gifted for sure and presses well enough to be a hit. Could also play midfield roles. Possibly higher ceiling.

 

But I would say Elanga is faster and has a better output in a stronger league and would do a better job if we stuck him up tops.

 

And they're the same age.

We’re not sticking him up top ffs