Ronson333 Posted October 19, 2024 Share Posted October 19, 2024 8 minutes ago, Big Geordie said: Going to pay for a really poor summer transfer window. This side is miles away from finishing top 6 as things stand. Even top 10 looks a push. Those involved in power games, put their own interests before our club, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted October 19, 2024 Share Posted October 19, 2024 Just now, Danh1 said: The squad he seemingly won’t develop as he is so keen on keeping the likes of Longstaff and Almiron around That's not on Howe. Were not allowed to buy replacements for them even if we could find takers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted October 19, 2024 Share Posted October 19, 2024 We have a knackered Wilson a not sharp isak a poor finisher in gordon, and an undercooked osula because he won't use him great squad management eddie lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted October 19, 2024 Share Posted October 19, 2024 2 minutes ago, Keggy_Keagal said: Have to say Burn defended magnificently considering he was on a yellow. A yellow he got, harshly, for a "foul" on Welbeck who DIDN'T get a yellow for scraping Bruno's heel 10 minutes later Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted October 19, 2024 Share Posted October 19, 2024 Just now, Kid Icarus said: Isak one on one, Gordon one on one and Gordon a free header from 3 yards out is the definition of looking like scoring IYAM. That's fair aye, I think the point I wanted to make was that we're frustratingly haphazard and disorganised with everything we do in and around the box, it's always chaotic and desperate, last ditch and players are getting occasional chances without being set. I think this is more systematic than just poor finishing, I don't think the quality of chances, patterns of play and composure in the build up phase is anywhere near what it used to be, which is not an individual problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted October 19, 2024 Share Posted October 19, 2024 10 minutes ago, Big Geordie said: Going to pay for a really poor summer transfer window. This side is miles away from finishing top 6 as things stand. Even top 10 looks a push. We're 8th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted October 19, 2024 Share Posted October 19, 2024 4 minutes ago, Novocastrian said: People will disagree but the Barnes, Hall, Tino money could have spent elsewhere. Hall and Tino have shown glimpses and could develop into top players but for the money we could have bought two established full backs from Ligue 1/Serie A/Bundesliga etc. Barnes signing never makes sense to me, yeah he’s got a hammer of a right foot but he doesn’t do enough for me. Controversial perhaps…… Not controversial, just a shit opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAK Posted October 19, 2024 Share Posted October 19, 2024 Thought Barnes coming on brought more cutting edge to our play. Want him to start the next match, as much as I like Gordon his performances this season don’t justify him being picked over Barnes. Gordon can play on the right and deal with it. Tonali being taken off for Willock I don’t get, an off form player being brought on to turn things around? He offered nothing. Some bad subs made my Eddie, also he along with the recruitment team need to take some blame having brought in power and pace but little skill which you need against a team sitting back (first half Brighton). A rethink is needed on the profile of player we sign for January and next summer. Also don’t think it’s time to give Eddie the boot but we’ll outgrow him. He plays huff and puff football, close down, pressurise, intensity, force errors in front of the opposition goal and score. We’re not even managing that at the moment but I’ll think he’ll turn that around but that will only take us so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 19, 2024 Share Posted October 19, 2024 Just now, Infinitely Content said: That's fair aye, I think the point I wanted to make was that we're frustratingly haphazard and disorganised with everything we do in and around the box, it's always chaotic and desperate, last ditch and players are getting occasional chances without being set. I think this is more systematic than just poor finishing, I don't think the quality of chances, patterns of play and composure in the build up phase is anywhere near what it used to be, which is not an individual problem. Yeah I think that's fair, there's definitely a lack of cohesion/quality at the very last point of our attacks in build up possession play and we often look most dangerous on the break. Teams sit deep against us now and know it'll probably work. Obvious captain hindsight stuff, but any of our chances go in and it's a hugely different end result imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 19, 2024 Share Posted October 19, 2024 2 minutes ago, andycap said: We have a knackered Wilson a not sharp isak a poor finisher in gordon, and an undercooked osula because he won't use him great squad management eddie lad. It’s a colossal failure in squad management, no question. Ultimately it comes down to how ambitious the ownership actually are but if they are as much as they’ve said, then I’m genuinely concerned about where we’ll be by next transfer window and the questions that will be asked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted October 19, 2024 Share Posted October 19, 2024 3 minutes ago, 54 said: We're 8th. I know it's still early doors, but if you aren't concerned by how things have gone so far this season, then you need to look again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted October 19, 2024 Share Posted October 19, 2024 Barnes should be starting every game now like. Murphy and almiron should be used for injuries or tiredness. You'd think we had world class wingers playing the way he keeps getting benched. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted October 19, 2024 Share Posted October 19, 2024 (edited) Unless injuries, the two substitutions of Bruno and Gordon for Almiron and Longstaff is one of the most baffling I've seen. Bruno (our best player today) and Gordon (I agree not having his best of games) are two of our key players in creating that moment of magic we needed. It was no coincidence that Brighton controlled the game and could have scored a couple more when those two coming on; yet Almiron and Longstaff virtually give the ball away every time they received it (Longstaff on set pieces man ). 8 goals in 8 games is just not good enough. Edited October 19, 2024 by et tu brute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted October 19, 2024 Share Posted October 19, 2024 1 minute ago, Big Geordie said: I know it's still early doors, but if you aren't concerned by how things have gone so far this season, then you need to look again. It’s disappointing but I’m not concerned. There’s issues that need addressing on and off the pitch and I’m sure it will in due course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted October 19, 2024 Share Posted October 19, 2024 7 minutes ago, LiquidAK said: It's getting to the point where Gordon 1 on 1 I just don't think he's going to score. No idea what's happened to him since last season, no idea if the stats back it up but he felt more clinical He has never been clinical one on one. Been said plenty in here that if his finishing was better, he’d score a shit load. Probably wouldn’t be playing for us, either! He regularly goes for the ‘safe’ finish of just wanting to hit the target. Like lacing it on his left when he’s at an angle or a tame effort right at the keeper when he’s through. He’ll still score a good amount as he’s a livewire. But he isn’t a natural goalscorer or a clean striker of the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted October 19, 2024 Share Posted October 19, 2024 1 minute ago, et tu brute said: Unless injuries, the two substitutions of Bruno and Gordon for Almiron and Longstaff is one of the most baffling I've seen. Bruno (our best player today) and Gordon (I agree not having his best of games) are two of our key players in creating that moment of magic we needed. It was no coincidence that Brighton controlled the game and could have scored a couple more when those two coming on; yet Almiron and Longstaff virtually give the ball away every time they received it (Longstaff on set pieces man ). 8 goals in 8 games is just not good enough. Bruno won't have gotten back to Newcastle until late Thursday. He'll have been running on petrol fumes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 19, 2024 Share Posted October 19, 2024 Weird point to make I suppose but FWIW I think we've picked up most our points so far this season from games we've played worse in. Strange old game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted October 19, 2024 Share Posted October 19, 2024 2 minutes ago, Big Geordie said: I know it's still early doors, but if you aren't concerned by how things have gone so far this season, then you need to look again. You said it'd be a stretch to get in the top 10, we're in the top 10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted October 19, 2024 Share Posted October 19, 2024 Tonali for Milan was a deadball specialist now he can't get a look in. Why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 19, 2024 Share Posted October 19, 2024 What a frustrating afternoon that was. There's two really opposite ways you can take a result & game like that and I'm probably sat somewhere in between the two of them. Positive: Literally every team in world football will have a few games like that each season where they dominate the play and come on the end of a smash and grab from a team not that bothered about scoring. We had the three best chances in the game and didn't take them and if you play that game through ten times we probably win it 7 times and draw the other two. Brighton weren't remotely arsed about scoring and the goal was basically the only time they got into our half in the first 70 mins. We controlled the play, looked good in our build up and just nothing seems to drop for us at the moment. I can't really blame Eddie or the set up or the selection for any of today. Possibly a minor question mark on Murphy > Barnes if I'm really digging around. We'll play worse than that and win this season (in fact, we have already). Negative: Isak looks crap (whether unfit or not) and despite him fluffing a few good chances we weren't set up to get the best out of him yet again and he toiled all day long. Like the Everton game I put it squarely at the board that we've gambled on his form and fitness for another season and only trusted the striking buy of the summer with mere minutes at the end of the game at best. Another great chance fluffed/missed/bottled (delete as appropriate) by Gordon as well who could have won us points if he was on it the last few weeks. Looking at Sean and Miggy coming on when we were desperate for some guile and a lock-picker was fucking depressing and it felt like we could still be there now and have drawn a blank. Regardless: A word on the balding cunt wearing light blue. A disgrace from start to finish, giving a powderpuff diving Brighton team every single little decision. The Hall card was nothing short of outright incompetence as it wasn't even a foul, Rutter should have had one for diving (I was sat right in front of it). Seconds later, Rutter commits a worse foul up the other end, no card. What an utter fucking useless biased cunt & I hope he gets cock rot. So yeah. Tough one to take, and to analyse. Beat Chelsea next time out and that's quickly forgotten. Brighton looked crap and if they're like that all season they won't pull up many trees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted October 19, 2024 Share Posted October 19, 2024 8 minutes ago, andycap said: We have a knackered Wilson a not sharp isak a poor finisher in gordon, and an undercooked osula because he won't use him great squad management eddie lad. Thank god we gave him a new contract instead of cashing in. PSR though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted October 19, 2024 Share Posted October 19, 2024 Just now, 54 said: You said it'd be a stretch to get in the top 10, we're in the top 10. All depends what happens in the January window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 19, 2024 Share Posted October 19, 2024 Just now, Fak said: It’s disappointing but I’m not concerned. There’s issues that need addressing on and off the pitch and I’m sure it will in due course. Due course won’t cut it though. The window is 2 1/2 months away and I’ve little faith in us doing much business to improve the first Xl. You know where we need to finish to hold on to our best players and I think we all know it’s going to take a minor miracle now. We needed a great start. Instead we’ve regressed - again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted October 19, 2024 Share Posted October 19, 2024 Just now, Ronaldo said: Due course won’t cut it though. The window is 2 1/2 months away and I’ve little faith in us doing much business to improve the first Xl. You know where we need to finish to hold on to our best players and I think we all know it’s going to take a minor miracle now. We needed a great start. Instead we’ve regressed - again. No probs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAK Posted October 19, 2024 Share Posted October 19, 2024 6 minutes ago, LiquidAK said: It's getting to the point where Gordon 1 on 1 I just don't think he's going to score. No idea what's happened to him since last season, no idea if the stats back it up but he felt more clinical Think most of his goal were prodding in crosses as he ran on to them at the back post, shooting from close range from a pass or whipping a curling low shot from the edge of the box. He’s always been crap running with the ball and shooting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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