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Dr.Spaceman

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10 minutes ago, STM said:

The narrative being pushed at 1-0 was ridiculous, as if we'd fallen into their cunning trap. What trap was that then? Gifting us all of the possession? Allowing us free reign of their penalty area? Playing for one set piece chance?

 

It was clear we were going to get a goal if they kept allowing us time and space and once we got the equaliser, they had a big problem, the onus was back on them and they didn't have the stamina or technical answers. 

 

Once they they started coming forward, we just picked them off on the break. We could have had a couple more too.

 

Forest optimised being in a false position in the league. They are a good side and will have a fine year but you can't live on counter attacks like that, without at some point trying to impose yourself on the game. I feel like every other side will now know how to deal with them just a little bit better.

 

They've a few really nice players though. Murillo, I'd have in a heartbeat.

 

Carragher kept spouting some bollocks about us needing to be better with our men behind the ball, whatever the fuck that meant. All we needed to do was sort out our final ball, we were pissing on them and the stats showed exactly that.

 

 

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Tiresias

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8 minutes ago, David Edgar said:

 

Hudson Odoi had a terrible game and looked a yard off the pace.

 

Gibbs White wasn't exactly setting the world alight either. But then, Anderson isn't gonna make much of a difference...

 

I know I'm really down on Anderson's ability, but I always have been, and his complete lack of impact was no surprise today. He plays such a one-paced game. Almost like he is playing walking football. Just takes too long on the ball and kills momentum. Then a lot of his duels, he pushing and pulling which should just always be a foul. That time he just two handed shoved Bruno and the ref ignored it :lol: He needs to play as a DCM to get-by at Premier League level. Somewhere on the pitch that can afford him a bit more time. He just gets swallowed up by competent midfields when he plays in the hole behind the striker, as he did at times today. 

 

Anderson is a funny one. Until last season he was essentially a no 10 in a quite old fashioned (now) way, not enough pace to play out wide, not strong enough to play in the middle of a 4-3-3 and as such pretty uncommon site in the premier league, and hence why he always was going to struggle to get starting spot with us. Then he seemed to be a bit bulkier and was tried in that midfield 3 and for a moment thought may add that technical edge we sometimes lack, but he unfortunately just didn't produce a huge amount. 

 

I can see him being fine for Forest, you sometimes want that technical player in the middle in counter attacking teams to be that pivot to launch attacks, but in Howe ball you need to impose yourself and bully the opposition which he never really did

 

 

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Just now, Dr.Spaceman said:

 

Carragher kept spouting some bollocks about us needing to be better with our men behind the ball, whatever the fuck that meant. All we needed to do was sort out our final ball, we were pissing on them and the stats showed exactly that.

 

 

 

I didn't get that either, Carragher kept saying that they kept picking us off on the break, and that we where lucky not to be further behind, and that we couldn't sustain attacks. Yet bar that free kick Pope barely had a save to make, and we where doing all the running, it was just our final ball letting us down.

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1 minute ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

 

Carragher kept spouting some bollocks about us needing to be better with our men behind the ball, whatever the fuck that meant. All we needed to do was sort out our final ball, we were pissing on them and the stats showed exactly that.

 

 

 

 

It's very rare that I think "we will still win this", but at half time I was convinced we would get back into it.

 

You just can't play like that for 90 minutes. You could see it coming a mile off but commentary already had their narrative set. More fool them.

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1 minute ago, 54 said:

I didn't get that either, Carragher kept saying that they kept picking us off on the break, and that we where lucky not to be further behind, and that we couldn't sustain attacks. Yet bar that free kick Pope barely had a save to make, and we where doing all the running, it was just our final ball letting us down.

 

Yeah, one of the overriding thoughts I had was how well we managed to defend their counter attacks. I think maybe one sneaked through all game, where as we cut through them 3/4 times in the second half alone. 

 

It reminded me of earlier on in the year when we beat Wolves and Merson was in the studio saying that Wolves were unlucky and will have no problems.... they got their first win yesterday. Thick as pig shit.

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6 minutes ago, STM said:

 

It's very rare that I think "we will still win this", but at half time I was convinced we would get back into it.

 

You just can't play like that for 90 minutes. You could see it coming a mile off but commentary already had their narrative set. More fool them.

 

Same, which isn't like me. I felt confident we'd get something out of it and when we scored I felt we'd win. I never ever feel that....hence me stating this was the best we've played in 2024. I still think (post match) it's up there. 

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The most positive thing for me out of the last week or so is that Howe seems to have solved our midfield issue.  The balance is looking far better and Joelinton off the left is by far his best position.  We no longer have those gaping gaps we’ve seen previously. Onwards and upwards 

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1 hour ago, STM said:

The narrative being pushed at 1-0 was ridiculous, as if we'd fallen into their cunning trap. What trap was that then? Gifting us all of the possession? Allowing us free reign of their penalty area? Playing for one set piece chance?

 

It was clear we were going to get a goal if they kept allowing us time and space and once we got the equaliser, they had a big problem, the onus was back on them and they didn't have the stamina or technical answers. 

 

Once they they started coming forward, we just picked them off on the break. We could have had a couple more too.

 

Forest optimised being in a false position in the league. They are a good side and will have a fine year but you can't live on counter attacks like that, without at some point trying to impose yourself on the game. I feel like every other side will now know how to deal with them just a little bit better.

 

They've a few really nice players though. Murillo, I'd have in a heartbeat.

Forest reminded me us of the year we finished fifth under Pards. Quick breaks, route one and getting some lucky breaks.

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5 minutes ago, Danh1 said:

He is absolutely pathetic. Just a championship clogger at best. Wouldn’t want him in any side we’ve had in my lifetime. Just offers nothing but pashun.

 

Nailed on to finish his career at Sunderland 

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Just now, Dokko said:

 

Nailed on to finish his career at Sunderland 

They would love him. Would be a Bally type legend for them. If he could mock one of our club icons for having cancer like Bally did he may even surpass him. 

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10 minutes ago, Danh1 said:

They would love him. Would be a Bally type legend for them. If he could mock one of our club icons for having cancer like Bally did he may even surpass him. 


What’s this?!

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Anyone on the trip today know who this bellend is?

 

From the Forest forum.

 

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A word about their fans: while enjoying a pre-match chips and 2 fish cake lunch, a crowd of louts in black and white came along Radcliffe Road, bellowing their foul-mouthed songs. One specimen wearing a distinctive pink puffer jacket over his replica shirt decided to hurl a half-full glass of beer (thankfully in a plastic pint pot) showering Forest fans, including women and kids who were simply queuing to place their orders for their meal. Several Forest fans collared a couple of coppers, explained what had happened and pointed out the perpetrator to Starsky & Hutch, who gave chase at a funerial pace. I doubt they apprehended the scum.

 

 

 

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