Newcastle United 1-4 Bournemouth (18/01/25)

[El Prontonise]

Just now, 54 said:

We've had two extra games over the last month in the League Cup, and they had an extra 24 hours rest given they played on Tuesday and us Wednesday.

 

They've got a ridiculous injury list and they still made changes to their lineup.

 

It's our fault our players are fatigued by not rotating more.

[HaydnNUFC]

Bournemouth have 11 senior players fit and played the same number of games this week as us. Think we were just totally fucking awful.

[Cf]

1 minute ago, 54 said:

We've had two extra games over the last month in the League Cup, and they had an extra 24 hours rest given they played on Tuesday and us Wednesday.

 

Not to make excuses but the 12:30 after a Weds evening is pretty shit tbf. 

[Yorkie]

Just now, SUPERTOON said:

Mental fatigue will be pretty high as well tbh, that arsenal cup game in particular. 

 

This is the main reason why winning and winning and winning becomes harder and harder imo. Keeping your mentality absolutely A1 is so hard, whether it's complacency or a different pressure through the expectation to win.

[El Prontonise]

1 minute ago, HaydnNUFC said:

Bournemouth have 11 senior players fit and played the same number of games this week as us. Think we were just totally fucking awful.

 

They've also had 2 away games and we've had 2 home games.

[r0cafella]

Maybe Yorkie is right and it's more mental fatigue / believing a bit of our own hype. Let's hope we get our focus back next game. 

[Chicken Dancer]

Aye sometimes you just have to hold your hands up and acknowledge you were outplayed and out coached for 90 minutes. Very impressed by them, whilst we had a very off day. 
 

It happens. Just need to make sure it doesn’t become a dip.

[El Prontonise]

1 minute ago, r0cafella said:

Maybe Yorkie is right and it's more mental fatigue / believing a bit of our own hype. Let's hope we get our focus back next game. 

 

It's probably both tbh, there was hardly any pressing by us for like 40 mins.

 

We lost literally every 2nd ball and 50/50.

[TRon]

Personally think that fatigue is not the reason for us getting a hiding, we've struggled against other teams who press us relentlessly. It's generally the same players who get flustered when surrounded, and tbf only the best players can usually cope with it.

[Billy Warthog]

8 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Surely it’s nothing like the situation we were in back then. 

 

Didn't mean it like that, just hoping he gees them all up quickly. A hard run of games after Southampton, not to mention the semi final. 

[Ikon]

We still lack a lot of technical ability in some positions, as well as some pace at the back. 

[Hanshithispantz]

6 minutes ago, 54 said:

We've had two extra games over the last month in the League Cup, and they had an extra 24 hours rest given they played on Tuesday and us Wednesday.

Aye, against a similar side who want to run you off the park the extra rest is massive. Even a later kick-off would help.

 

Not to take anything away from them like, even fully fit we'd struggle against their press.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I’m quite surprised to be logging on to see so many people saying we were totally outplayed TBH.
 

I think Bournemouth did a good job to hassle and contain us, but neither team really played any good football. Then we gave the match to them with two critical mistakes. 

 

Depends what you mean by outplayed I suppose. They contained us and ended up winning, so fair play. But without two critical errors it probably finishes 1-1. 

 

 

Edited 16 hours ago by AyeDubbleYoo

[Aiston]

Fatigue would be a very lame excuse considering what the Bournemouth side is putting up with their massive injury crisis.

[ohmelads]

Bournemouth played some decent football but they had ten times more aggression. 18 fouls to 7. Yes their fouling was annoying but the ref was consistent to be fair. He made it clear early on that anything goes and they made it clear they wanted a physical game. We have to be able to stand up to that. Bruno, as captain, has to stand up for himself and set the tone for the team. How many times was he fouled? Might have been double figures. If the ref isn't giving cards out then as the leader you have to react.

 

Teams are going to see this and really go in hard on us now. Few refs will let as much go as today but we have to be ready for this kind of game.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Just now, ohmelads said:

Bournemouth played some decent football but they had ten times more aggression. 18 fouls to 7. Yes their fouling was annoying but the ref was consistent to be fair. He made it clear early on that anything goes and they made it clear they wanted a physical game. We have to be able to stand up to that. Bruno, as captain, has to stand up for himself and set the tone for the team. How many times was he fouled? Might have been double figures. If the ref isn't giving cards out then as the leader you have to react.

 

Teams are going to see this and really go in hard on us now. Few refs will let as much go as today but we have to be ready for this kind of game.

How would you like him to react? 

[St1pe]

Similar to how we turned up and pumped Forest. We need to do the same, take it on the chin and move on. 
 

Nothing but respect for Bournemouth though that’s arguably the best coached side I’ve seen this season. Aye we were shit but they caused that. 
 

I’d like to think that gives a nudge to the higher ups that it’s January and we could use a transfer boost. 

[Shadow Puppets]

Just a bad day at the office. Bad decision making, poor passing (the amount of misplaced passes today was insane), stupid mistakes, and a very good team at the other end of it taking advantage of it all.

 

One of those days. We’ll bounce back.

[The Bonk]

Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I’m quite surprised to be logging on to see so many people saying we were totally outplayed TBH.
 

I think Bournemouth did a good job to hassle and contain us, but neither team really played any good football. Then we have the match to them with two critical mistakes. 

 

Depends what you mean by outplayed I suppose. They contained us and ended up winning, so fair play. But without two critical errors it probably finishes 1-1. 

They didn’t make the sloppy mistakes we did and when they attacked, passed I around us pretty consistently.  I like your optimism, but we didn’t create anything of note or bring Isak any sort acceptable service.

[nufc123]

2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I’m quite surprised to be logging on to see so many people saying we were totally outplayed TBH.

They dominated us in almost every position, not only in general play. Not sure outplayed but they dominated us for sure.

[Decky]

People can overanalyse this result all day but the fact is we were well beaten by a better team on the day. People say fatigue but they couldn't even do the basics, we couldn't pass the bloody ball at all. Bournemouth wanted that win a lot more than us and we're good value for that 4-1.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Just now, The Bonk said:

They didn’t make the sloppy mistakes we did and when they attacked, passed I around us pretty consistently.  I like your optimism, but we didn’t create anything of note or bring Isak any sort acceptable service.

I didn’t say we played well, I just said that Bournemouth really didn’t play much football either. Individual errors decided the match in the end. 

[Big Geordie]

Agreed that we need to see some business coming in - even loan moves, but I'm not convinced it will happen. Doesn't seem to be a lot of wriggle room due to PSR.

[ohmelads]

2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

How would you like him to react? 

 

If the ref is letting fouls go without carding people, then you give it back. If he's a weak ref, you square up to players. It's part of the game.

 

How would you like your captain to react to being fouled 8, 9, 10 times?

[SUPERTOON]

2 minutes ago, St1pe said:

Similar to how we turned up and pumped Forest. We need to do the same, take it on the chin and move on. 
 

Nothing but respect for Bournemouth though that’s arguably the best coached side I’ve seen this season. Aye we were shit but they caused that. 
 

I’d like to think that gives a nudge to the higher ups that it’s January and we could use a transfer boost. 

Pretty sure the higher ups already know we could do with a transfer boost considering it’s been 3 windows without one. Still don’t think we make a move, maybe a loan with obligation at a push.