Kid Icarus Posted Saturday at 17:09 Share Posted Saturday at 17:09 For posterity and being generous Dubravka: 6 Trippier: 3 Livramento: 6 Schär: 3.5 Burn: 4.5 Hall: 5 Bruno: 5 Tonali: 5 Willock: 5 Miley: 6 Gordon: 4 Isak: 5 Murphy: 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic Posted Saturday at 17:09 Share Posted Saturday at 17:09 Is it allowed for our players to give out bollockings to team mates?or is that frowned upon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted Saturday at 17:09 Share Posted Saturday at 17:09 Leadership aggression gone out the window, it's only visible in certain games. Those that recently rubbished big Joe, it was evident his presence was needed today, although I'd assume we'd still lose, perhaps not as heavily. Lightweights all over in some instances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon_Geordie Posted Saturday at 17:10 Share Posted Saturday at 17:10 I'm fucking knackered and I don't get 8 days off. We're back to 1 a week now. No excuses for showing up when it suits. Too many were off the pace today, more through a lack of effort than being tired. Did'nt expect much else, but the gulf in effort game to game is worrying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted Saturday at 17:10 Share Posted Saturday at 17:10 (edited) Re the winning big games thing, we have just won 4-0 against Arsenal to get to a final like. We’re in a poor run of form, it’s a few things but the one issue that stands out is that Howe and this team desperately need help. Hopefully the cartel/PL allow it this summer because a refresh is needed Edited Saturday at 17:10 by Andy84 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted Saturday at 17:12 Share Posted Saturday at 17:12 2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: For posterity and being generous Dubravka: 6 Trippier: 3 Livramento: 6 Schär: 3.5 Burn: 4.5 Hall: 5 Bruno: 5 Tonali: 5 Willock: 5 Miley: 6 Gordon: 4 Isak: 5 Murphy: 5 That’s more then generous Mine would read more like the ratings you see in L’Equipe plenty of 2s, 3s and the odd 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo123 Posted Saturday at 17:13 Share Posted Saturday at 17:13 Extremely poor today. Hopefully we'll get a good response for our next match. I'd have played 5-4-1 today and sat deep, I'd do the same at Anfield. As soon as I finish my hindsight coaching badges, I'll take this team to the very top Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted Saturday at 17:14 Share Posted Saturday at 17:14 Just now, Lush Vlad said: That’s more then generous Mine would read more like the ratings you see in L’Equipe plenty of 2s, 3s and the odd 1 You've got to put a scale on these things. If I start giving 1s and 2s there's no room for things like Kenedy vs Cardiff, Boumsong vs Liverpool, Cacapa vs Portsmouth etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted Saturday at 17:14 Share Posted Saturday at 17:14 4 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: For posterity and being generous Dubravka: 6 Trippier: 3 Livramento: 6 Schär: 3.5 Burn: 4.5 Hall: 5 Bruno: 5 Tonali: 5 Willock: 5 Miley: 6 Gordon: 4 Isak: 5 Murphy: 5 Think you are kind with Hall and Willock here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted Saturday at 17:14 Share Posted Saturday at 17:14 What's concerning is that this game isn't a bad performance in isolation, it's now 3 extremely poor league performances in 5, glossed over by the tremendous displays against Arsenal in the cup, a bit of a fluke against Wolves, and a stock win against the worst side in the league. What's also concerning is our mentality in those three games mentioned above when we've gone behind. They've all finished in hammerings, which hasn't usually been the case under Howe. We are outsiders to win the cup, so the season is in danger of nose diving if that game goes wrong and we don't rectify the league performances urgently. The players need to get their fingers out. Too many of them look like they're just going through the motions in the league games at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikri Posted Saturday at 17:16 Share Posted Saturday at 17:16 14 minutes ago, CPL said: Hopefully trigger a response next week and this game will quickly be forgotten about. The worry is that the players are backing off slightly, knowing that an injury or suspension might rule them out of the final. But in doing so, they're surrendering games before they've kicked off and risk going into the final in really poor form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted Saturday at 17:17 Share Posted Saturday at 17:17 For a lauded midfield up against a supposedly weakened, older and slower midfield, we really embarrassed ourselves in there. Don’t need to pick anyone in particular, all of them in the 1st half just didn’t turn up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted Saturday at 17:18 Share Posted Saturday at 17:18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted Saturday at 17:18 Share Posted Saturday at 17:18 1 minute ago, ikri said: The worry is that the players are backing off slightly, knowing that an injury or suspension might rule them out of the final. But in doing so, they're surrendering games before they've kicked off and risk going into the final in really poor form. As I said earlier in the thread - there's been a thing at this club when reaching a cup final, that league form prior can hit a wall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon_Geordie Posted Saturday at 17:19 Share Posted Saturday at 17:19 4 minutes ago, Andy said: What's concerning is that this game isn't a bad performance in isolation, it's now 3 extremely poor league performances in 5, glossed over by the tremendous displays against Arsenal in the cup, a bit of a fluke against Wolves, and a stock win against the worst side in the league. What's also concerning is our mentality in those three games mentioned above when we've gone behind. They've all finished in hammerings, which hasn't usually been the case under Howe. We are outsiders to win the cup, so the season is in danger of nose diving if that game goes wrong and we don't rectify the league performances urgently. The players need to get their fingers out. Too many of them look like they're just going through the motions in the league games at the moment. On the money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted Saturday at 17:19 Share Posted Saturday at 17:19 Just now, Big Geordie said: As I said earlier in the thread - there's been a thing at this club when reaching a cup final, that league form prior can hit a wall. And then we’re also usually shit in the final too. See 1998 and 1999. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted Saturday at 17:20 Share Posted Saturday at 17:20 11 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: For posterity and being generous Dubravka: 6 Trippier: 3 Livramento: 6 Schär: 3.5 Burn: 4.5 Hall: 5 Bruno: 5 Tonali: 5 Willock: 5 Miley: 6 Gordon: 4 Isak: 5 Murphy: 5 That’s very generous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted Saturday at 17:22 Share Posted Saturday at 17:22 God I'm just so depressed man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted Saturday at 17:25 Share Posted Saturday at 17:25 4 minutes ago, Tsunami said: For a lauded midfield up against a supposedly weakened, older and slower midfield, we really embarrassed ourselves in there. Don’t need to pick anyone in particular, all of them in the 1st half just didn’t turn up. Gundogan was having a relaxing afternoon. Not a good look from our midfielders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted Saturday at 17:29 Share Posted Saturday at 17:29 6 for Dubravka is outrageous. Froze in no man’s land for the first (Trippier’s fuck up mainly) and the second was crap from him. Yet another goal to his right that he’s waved in. I saw someone criticise him for the third. That seems harsh in the extreme Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted Saturday at 17:29 Share Posted Saturday at 17:29 8 minutes ago, Nucasol said: And then we’re also usually shit in the final too. See 1998 and 1999. We haven't been properly competitive in any of the 3 cup finals in my lifetime. Like today Manure were there for the taking last time and we couldn't get through the mental jump, albeit with injury problems and the goalkeeper debacle. It's a mental block though and Liverpool, like Man City are usually our kryptonite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted Saturday at 17:30 Share Posted Saturday at 17:30 In the words of our last great manager. Wa ruhrl was sleeves up and go again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted Saturday at 17:30 Share Posted Saturday at 17:30 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Big Geordie said: As I said earlier in the thread - there's been a thing at this club when reaching a cup final, that league form prior can hit a wall. In the games since winning a semi-final on this and the last three occasions we've won 2 in 17 *one of those was a dick around against Chelsea the other Barnsley (which we cheated to win) Edited Saturday at 17:59 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted Saturday at 17:31 Share Posted Saturday at 17:31 Just now, RS said: In the words of our last great manager. Wa ruhrl was sleeves up and go again And in the words of another manager we had. "You're a cunt!" Not you personally RS! 🤣 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted Saturday at 17:33 Share Posted Saturday at 17:33 I’d bring pope back in. Dubs was terrible today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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