Ronaldo Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 3 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: It is. That’s why we offered Wilson another deal. Ambition. Have a word. Eddie aside the club is a mess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 5 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: The assumption is needed to push the straw man argument. it isn't strawman at all. Our PSR limitations mean we can't afford to miss, even at the expense of *GASP* not having everyone in for matchday one. 2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: This idea that the club is infallible though is ridiculous tbh, without the Isak debacle not having a Wilson replacement in is really poor. As always, I'm not saying they're infallible, I'm prickling at the totally unfair accusations of shambles, 'indefensible' etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 It’s definitely worthy of criticism that we still haven’t replaced Wilson, that’s been on the cards for 2 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: If you don't mean 'worse' and no one else means worse...why keep saying worse? Because that's more punchy! It basically does mean worse though, at least in the minds of our recruiters. They don't think they're as good as option to spend our money on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HayDen Traces Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 Its getting dangerously close to the end of the window and still no striker... well except the one who refuses to play. Either we make the Wissa deal happen or we have to move on to other targets Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 To be fair Wilson wasn't even a Wilson replacement last season... 0 goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 1 minute ago, Theregulars said: It’s definitely worthy of criticism that we still haven’t replaced Wilson, that’s been on the cards for 2 years. The Wissa deal seems complicated by the AFCON issue, I'm wondering if that's why it's not sorted yet. I get the feeling that we might go for a Wissa/Jackson partnership to eventually replace Isak altogether, but AFCON etc. An alternative might have been Wissa/Kalimuendo...but then we don't get Wissa because Kalimuendo is lined up to be Brentford's replacement for Wissa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: That’s why we offered Wilson another deal. Ambition. Have a word. Eddie aside the club is a mess. Isak doesn't act the prick, there's no rush. We have 3 weeks to bide our time and get Wissa who's pretty clearly near the top of our pile when it comes to our Wilson replacement. Very short term and pretty crap of the club if it pisses its pants and gets a lesser target for the sake of 2-3 games just because Isak's left us in the lurch. I don't think the club was accounting for that. No one was 3-4 weeks ago. Edited August 12, 2025 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPar Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 1 minute ago, TRon said: The Wissa deal seems complicated by the AFCON issue, I'm wondering if that's why it's not sorted yet. I get the feeling that we might go for a Wissa/Jackson partnership to eventually replace Isak altogether, but AFCON etc. An alternative might have been Wissa/Kalimuendo...but then we don't get Wissa because Kalimuendo is lined up to be Brentford's replacement for Wissa. I'd prefer Kalimeundo to be honest. No AFCON. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 1 minute ago, Yorkie said: Because that's more punchy! It basically does mean worse though, at least in the minds of our recruiters. They don't think they're as good as option to spend our money on. Depends on whether you think our 'better' targets are a continuation of our recruitment policy or a divergence from it. Everyone agrees that our ability to improve players means 'worse' still means better. Leaving it this late before the start of the season basically means we've let perfect be the enemy of better imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HayDen Traces Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 2 minutes ago, TRon said: The Wissa deal seems complicated by the AFCON issue, I'm wondering if that's why it's not sorted yet. I get the feeling that we might go for a Wissa/Jackson partnership to eventually replace Isak altogether, but AFCON etc. An alternative might have been Wissa/Kalimuendo...but then we don't get Wissa because Kalimuendo is lined up to be Brentford's replacement for Wissa. We just need to sort it. Whatever our strategy is. We could have dropped 9pts by the time a striker is signed... pessimistic view but quite possible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPar Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said: Isak doesn't act the prick, there's no rush. We have 3 weeks to bide our time and get Wissa who's pretty clearly near the top of our pile when it comes to our Wilson replacement. Very short term and pretty crap of the club if it pisses its pants and gets a lesser target for the sake of 2-3 games just because Isak's left us in the lurch. I don't think the club was accounting for that. No one was 3-4 weeks ago. I'd rule out any player that could dissappear for a month over Christmas. Bloody AFCON. Lots of good French strikers still available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 2 minutes ago, MagPar said: I'd prefer Kalimeundo to be honest. No AFCON. I don't know enough about him, but generally I like to buy players with a higher ceiling rather than a 29 year old, but Wissa is proven so I can understand why we don't want to take any chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said: Depends on whether you think our 'better' targets are a continuation of our recruitment policy or a divergence from it. Everyone agrees that our ability to improve players means 'worse' still means better. Leaving it this late before the start of the season basically means we've let perfect be the enemy of better imo. I would agree with that. My position I suppose is that A, I can't hate us for chasing perfect and B, I think we're cornered into operating that way because of PSR. It doesn't make us a shambles or the summer a COLOSSAL FAILURE, particularly considering everything else that's happened, and the fact it isn't finished. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPar Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 3 minutes ago, TRon said: I don't know enough about him, but generally I like to buy players with a higher ceiling rather than a 29 year old, but Wissa is proven so I can understand why we don't want to take any chances. Kalimeundo is 23, scored 17 in 30 and is valued at around 30 million, plus no AFCON. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 18 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Isak doesn't act the prick, there's no rush. We have 3 weeks to bide our time and get Wissa who's pretty clearly near the top of our pile when it comes to our Wilson replacement. Very short term and pretty crap of the club if it pisses its pants and gets a lesser target for the sake of 2-3 games just because Isak's left us in the lurch. I don't think the club was accounting for that. No one was 3-4 weeks ago. We failed to score in the 4 games he missed last season but there’s no rush to get a backup striker in to be ready for the start of the season. Yeah, ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 49 minutes ago, Yorkie said: So they should've tried to buy worse players in the first place, got it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 (edited) Pretty sure Eddie wants Wilson to stay and he doesn’t think we need a replacement till now Edited August 12, 2025 by Zero Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 Just now, Zero said: Pretty sure Eddie wants Wilson to stay and he doesn’t think we need a replacement will now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 It’s definitely a take Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 26 minutes ago, MagPar said: Kalimeundo is 23, scored 17 in 30 and is valued at around 30 million, plus no AFCON. Just watched a highlights video and while I know that's never a full picture I saw enough to make me think Brentford will come out of that very well if they swap him out for Wissa. Kalimuendo looks two footed, can pick a pass and can finish. I would be happy to see us go in for him tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis H Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 Very much doubt we’ll be in for Kalimuendo. Our current recruitment strategy is like the bit in Fight Club where they have to stand outside the house for a week. Our targets need to be on the shortlist for at least a year before we’ll acknowledge them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPar Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 17 minutes ago, TRon said: Just watched a highlights video and while I know that's never a full picture I saw enough to make me think Brentford will come out of that very well if they swap him out for Wissa. Kalimuendo looks two footed, can pick a pass and can finish. I would be happy to see us go in for him tbh. That's what I meant, we should go for him, Brentford can keep Wissa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 1 hour ago, Yorkie said: So they should've tried to buy worse players in the first place, got it. Being able to do more than one transfer negotiation at a time would have been a good starter for ten - most competently run clubs can manage this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 1 hour ago, Menace said: I bet Kalimundo ends up being a success for them which is frustrating. We should just threaten to buy him if they wont release Wissa, buy him, and then continue to unsettle Wissa anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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