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29 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

 

Football is about money these days. For clubs, owners and players. Once you accept it, then not worth getting too wound up when players come and go on the back of it. That's just the way the world is set up to work these days, otherwise why would we need corporate boxes at football grounds?

 

 

Agreed mate - I think this is spot-on.  It doesn’t make my soul happy, but it is absolutely the case. 

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1 minute ago, janpawel said:

Great news, feel like Howe specifically mentioning this 6 week pre season as something done intentionally and relating to him possibly not going for international duty 

 

Yep - Eddie very clever with his wording to essentially say fuck off to DRC.

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You’d like to think if he was so

desperate to join us he might be willing to prioritise contributing to our season during the busy Christmas period over the AFCON, when push comes to shove I suspect he’ll be off to play in it though and I can’t really blame him for that.

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We can't expect him to not go to the AFCON but it would be a bit of a piss take imo, especially considering he got injured on international duty as well. If he's getting minutes before the November break are we expecting him to go away there too? 

 

It's just really shit for us that he hasn't played yet and when he does it'll be about building his fitness and sharpness to a good standard then he's away again for a month. Honestly I fucking hate international football in the middle of the season. :lol:

 

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8 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

That does suggest Wissa and Isak did exactly the same thing tbf - Wissa wanted to play CL football, Isak wanted to join a club who could win it.  They both used their clubs as stepping stones, they both acted like unprofessional knackers to get their move, they both got exactly what they wanted.  


Agreed, with the caveat that Wissa was near the end of his contract and Isak was near the middle of his. It was obvious Wissa wouldn’t sign an extension and wanted to move regardless if we were in for him. That to me, feels like Wissa completed most of his obligations to Brentford where Isak was agitated by Arsenal in year 2 and went full knacker this past summer.
 

Both shenanigans are childish and if Wissa doesn’t produce, he deserves some smoke coming his way like Isak is getting.
 

 

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2 hours ago, SteV said:

That might be pushing it a bit like, he was on £25k p/w.

 

So maybe not enough to set his kids up for life, but I don’t think he would ever have an issue ‘feeding them’.

It's about 700k a year take home. £2.8m over the 4 years. Let's say he was sitting on £500k prior.

 

He blows his knees out. He was sitting on about £3.3m. Probably spend £1m in those years on mortgage, cars, investments, life etc.And no hard skills in anything else in this left apart from playing football.

 

Great money. If all goes well, a decent upper-middle-class life in the south of England or Northern France where he's from. Good private schools for the kids, a holiday spot in the Congo or somewhere. But it's not "fuck you" money. A bad divorce, a few bad investments - suddenly he's bankrupt or needs a regular cheque. Many such cases.

 

He's now guaranteed to take home about £11m. He's much more resilient to bad financial situations.

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Just now, The Bonk said:


Agreed, with the caveat that Wissa was near the end of his contract and Isak was near the middle of his. It was obvious Wissa wouldn’t sign an extension and wanted to move regardless if we were in for him. That to me, feels like Wissa completed most of his obligations to Brentford where Isak was agitated by Arsenal in year 2 and went full knacker this past summer.
 

Both shenanigans are childish and if Wissa doesn’t produce, he deserves some smoke coming his way like Isak is getting.
 

 

Wissa had 2 years, Isak had 3.

 

I think both players had good reasons to be annoyed by their contract situations tbf. Just that Wissa had more practical issues with his.

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2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Wissa had 2 years, Isak had 3.

 

I think both players had good reasons to be annoyed by their contract situations tbf. Just that Wissa had more practical issues with his.


Right, Wissa had a club option for that second year.

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I don’t see Wissa and Isak as apples to apples imho. While Wissa did go on strike to an extent he did show up and train and would have reintegrated had the move fallen apart. He also lost Mbuemo, Norgard and his manager this past summer and the club were in transition. Isak’s was far different and far worse. 
 

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Isak was only different because it was to us whereas Wissa was to another club. Both are mulit-millionaires stamping their feet for more money.

 

And yes I have the same double standards, Wissa spat in someone else's face not mine, so I'm not going to hate him like they do. It's not my responsibility to hate him on their behalf, just like I don't expect Liverpool fans to hate Isak for the nature of his move there.

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1 hour ago, timeEd32 said:

Seems too fortunate that we could have Wissa, Tino, and Hall all back in a few weeks. What a team we’d have.

 

 

Been banging this drum for a while now. We just need to stay in touch with the top 5 picking up wins here and there. With those three back and Ramsey back up and running, we could have an outstanding second half of the season. 

 

For all the criticism of this summer's transfer window, we actually built a pretty solid squad which has been overshadowed by the injury problems. 

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2 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

 

Been banging this drum for a while now. We just need to stay in touch with the top 5 picking up wins here and there. With those three back and Ramsey back up and running, we could have an outstanding second half of the season. 

 

For all the criticism of this summer's transfer window, we actually built a pretty solid squad which has been overshadowed by the injury problems. 

January not too far off if needs must too.

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1 hour ago, Chris_R said:

Isak was only different because it was to us whereas Wissa was to another club. Both are mulit-millionaires stamping their feet for more money.

 

And yes I have the same double standards, Wissa spat in someone else's face not mine, so I'm not going to hate him like they do. It's not my responsibility to hate him on their behalf, just like I don't expect Liverpool fans to hate Isak for the nature of his move there.

I wouldn’t believe Wissa was a multimillionaire. Again, as fans who think we overestimate a lot footballers economic stability. 
 

Like if Wissa bought a house 45 minutes from west London, how much would that cost? How long is the mortgage?

 

 

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2 minutes ago, The Bonk said:

@The College Dropout

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Looks like a multiballerbagsmenionaire to me. :)  

How much is that after tax?

 

How much has he spent and gone?

 

How much did he have in liquid assets?

 

How much does his house cost?

 

I live in North West London. A PL footballer level house anywhere surrounding is about £2m. He’s taken home what, 3.5-£4m?

 

Many such cases of losing what in reality is a small fortune. By forcing the move he’s doubled it.  

 

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Wissa is 29 on the last major contract of his career, was given assurances he could go for X price. His manager left. His RW left. A champions league club came calling and offered the price; goal posts moved for various reasons. After a very short hold-out he went back to training and was available for selection. The selling club got a fee double that. So yes it's different. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Erikse said:

 

Actually we need clarification on whether bagsman means a player who scores a lot of goals, or a player who earns a lot of money. Could be both really.

Hmmm

 

One 6 figure weekly contract in a 10+ year career in football isn’t a truly world class financial bagsman. 
 

Alvaro Morata has probably earned over £30m in football. That’s a bagsman. 

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