Yoane Wissa

[SteV]

22 minutes ago, Slim said:

From what Hope said it's looking like there might be chance they argue for him not to go as the world cup is more important. 

 

 

Aye, I can’t see it personally, but you can see the logic if you’re being optimistic.

[TRC]

32 minutes ago, Slim said:

From what Hope said it's looking like there might be chance they argue for him not to go as the world cup is more important. 

 

 

That is just made up by Hope imo.

[Conjo]

1 hour ago, The Bonk said:

 

He should have kept training with Brentford while requesting a transfer that was apparently "promised" to him. I don't condone his behaviour and he seemed pretty committed to Brentford up until this summer. Overall, I'm excited for him to play for us and the fee Brentford got for him was obviously ridiculous, but Eddie wanted him, he wanted to be here, so let's see what he can do.

 

I can't fault the guy for representing his country, getting that opportunity is rare for a player, just hope he doesn't get injured again while ultimately he returns and helps us have a strong season overall. 

 

 

Of course, but it's as much his responsibility to manage his workload as the coaching and medical staff at NT and club. Hypothetical scenario: Say he ends up needing more time to get fit to play, and starts getting minutes here in December. Not full games, but 20-30 minutes a couple of games in a row. Then leaves for afcon 21st and plays every minute of every game despite his body not being ready for that match load. That results in him getting injured for another month. Is that acceptable to you, considering the start he's had here?

 

I don't find him a particularly exciting player, but he was effective at Brentford so obviously I hope he is as effective here. That being said, feeling joy on his behalf and supporting him in the way I do Sandro, Bruno, Murphy, Burn etc will be not be possible. It'll be more like a "that's what you're paid to do" type of feeling while being happy for the team, and I won't feel any sadness in seeing him be moved on the way I would those previously mentioned and others either.

[Ghandis Flip-Flop]

2 hours ago, The Bonk said:

 

He should have kept training with Brentford while requesting a transfer that was apparently "promised" to him. I don't condone his behaviour and he seemed pretty committed to Brentford up until this summer. Overall, I'm excited for him to play for us and the fee Brentford got for him was obviously ridiculous, but Eddie wanted him, he wanted to be here, so let's see what he can do.

 

I can't fault the guy for representing his country, getting that opportunity is rare for a player, just hope he doesn't get injured again while ultimately he returns and helps us have a strong season overall. 

For the millionth time he did keep training after a very short strop, he was available for selection but their manager decided not to play him given his state of mind. 
 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/czer1kd043yo

[The Bonk]

41 minutes ago, Conjo said:

 

 

Of course, but it's as much his responsibility to manage his workload as the coaching and medical staff at NT and club. Hypothetical scenario: Say he ends up needing more time to get fit to play, and starts getting minutes here in December. Not full games, but 20-30 minutes a couple of games in a row. Then leaves for afcon 21st and plays every minute of every game despite his body not being ready for that match load. That results in him getting injured for another month. Is that acceptable to you, considering the start he's had here?

 

I don't find him a particularly exciting player, but he was effective at Brentford so obviously I hope he is as effective here. That being said, feeling joy on his behalf and supporting him in the way I do Sandro, Bruno, Murphy, Burn etc will be not be possible. It'll be more like a "that's what you're paid to do" type of feeling while being happy for the team, and I won't feel any sadness in seeing him be moved on the way I would those previously mentioned and others either.

 

If your scenario were to play out, it's hard to get mad at a player we wanted to join us that has obligations to his country. What choice is there but to accept it? 

He will be exciting for us once he gets going, scored some fantastic goals for Brentford, including the back of our net. You seem to have some animosity towards him, which I get, if you expect players to have a high level of professional conduct. Kinda funny you have joy for Tonali, considering his start to life at NUFC was mired in a betting controversy and year long ban.  

[The Bonk]

35 minutes ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said:

For the millionth time he did keep training after a very short strop, he was available for selection but their manager decided not to play him given his state of mind. 
 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/czer1kd043yo

 

Didn't give Andrews much choice, did he? Regardless, still unprofessional to do and I hardly call over two weeks of protest and deleting social media posts "a short strop".  He's less ridiculous than Isak, but still silly to do and has set his, possibly our season's back a bit. 

I'm at the stage where I wanna see the lad on the pitch for us. 

[LFEE]

What game we aiming for if being optimistic? Any chance of West Ham/Bilbao or still no closer than Brentford?

[Keegans Export]

26 minutes ago, LFEE said:

What game we aiming for if being optimistic? Any chance of West Ham/Bilbao or still no closer than Brentford?

I had a quick skim of this thread earlier and he's either potentially available for West Ham, got another two or three weeks out, or he now has done his ACL and we'll be lucky to see him this season.

[Conjo]

23 minutes ago, The Bonk said:

 

If your scenario were to play out, it's hard to get mad at a player we wanted to join us that has obligations to his country. What choice is there but to accept it? 

He will be exciting for us once he gets going, scored some fantastic goals for Brentford, including the back of our net. You seem to have some animosity towards him, which I get, if you expect players to have a high level of professional conduct. Kinda funny you have joy for Tonali, considering his start to life at NUFC was mired in a betting controversy and year long ban.  

 

The club has very limited means to do anything but accept him playing as long as he is medically cleared to play, not be confused with physically fit to play the number of games/minutes his NT would like him to play. He can say he is not in condition to play as much as his NT wants him to play, and they can't force him so there is an expectation that he is mature enough to take care of himself when he is away on international duty. Be curious to know what you thought about Owen if you wouldn't mind the hypothetical scenario playing out.

 

I do have some animosity towards Wissa. One of the few positives about getting rid of Isak was that such a personality was gone, and we've basically just swapped him for another. 

 

Tonali got his head down, worked on his game and and came back a better player, extended his contract for the season he lost due to bets placed before he became a Newcastle player. Maybe Wissa can turn me around in time by showing loyalty to the club and fans, and repaying us with incredible performances the same way Tonali did despite me not feeling it at the moment.

[The College Dropout]

4 hours ago, Kanj said:

Wissa's one and only chance to potentially play CL at his age is far more justifiable after his manager left, his clear and obvious agremeent with his club to leave, and everyhing he said he after he left >>>>>> over Isak and his conduct. 

TBH I don't think UCL is the reason and I don't blame him.

 

Wissa would be one of the least wealthy top level footballers of his age, ability and stature. He was at Lorient 4 years ago - doubt he was earning more than £500k p/a. He was 28 with a pension pot that wouldn't provide the lifestyle someone of his ability might expect to have. He's likely going to take home £10m-12m during his contract here and it might be the most he'll ever earn. The move will have secured his family for a couple generations.

[The Bonk]

1 hour ago, Conjo said:

 

The club has very limited means to do anything but accept him playing as long as he is medically cleared to play, not be confused with physically fit to play the number of games/minutes his NT would like him to play. He can say he is not in condition to play as much as his NT wants him to play, and they can't force him so there is an expectation that he is mature enough to take care of himself when he is away on international duty. Be curious to know what you thought about Owen if you wouldn't mind the hypothetical scenario playing out.

 

I do have some animosity towards Wissa. One of the few positives about getting rid of Isak was that such a personality was gone, and we've basically just swapped him for another. 

 

Tonali got his head down, worked on his game and and came back a better player, extended his contract for the season he lost due to bets placed before he became a Newcastle player. Maybe Wissa can turn me around in time by showing loyalty to the club and fans, and repaying us with incredible performances the same way Tonali did despite me not feeling it at the moment.

 

Owen didn't want to come here and only joined because we offered him a contract clause and he'd get minutes to play for his beloved England. He's a prick.

Don't think Wissa is of similar character to Isak at all, who gave off the impression we were a stepping stone in his career. Wissa did his shenanigans because he wanted to come here and play CL football. 

Hope Wissa does the same too, mate. 

[Skeletor]

If Isak's groin strike injury lasts long enough Wissa will have a good chance of scoring more goals than him playing his first game in November.

[Displayname]

1 hour ago, Skeletor said:

If Isak's groin strike injury lasts long enough Wissa will have a good chance of scoring more goals than him playing his first game in November.

Don't need Isak to be injured for that.

[TheBrownBottle]

7 hours ago, The Bonk said:

 

Don't think Wissa is of similar character to Isak at all, who gave off the impression we were a stepping stone in his career. Wissa did his shenanigans because he wanted to come here and play CL football. 

 

That does suggest Wissa and Isak did exactly the same thing tbf - Wissa wanted to play CL football, Isak wanted to join a club who could win it.  They both used their clubs as stepping stones, they both acted like unprofessional knackers to get their move, they both got exactly what they wanted.  

[ExiledGeordie]

12 hours ago, LFEE said:

What game we aiming for if being optimistic? Any chance of West Ham/Bilbao or still no closer than Brentford?

Total guesswork as we don’t know where he’s at training wise but I reckon outside change West Ham, more likely Bilbao or Brentford (which would he ironic). Any longish injury will be treated with caution particularly as there’s another international break coming up where someone can get up to speed more (and then go to AFCON😂)

 

 

Edited October 24, 2025 by ExiledGeordie

[The College Dropout]

4 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

That does suggest Wissa and Isak did exactly the same thing tbf - Wissa wanted to play CL football, Isak wanted to join a club who could win it.  They both used their clubs as stepping stones, they both acted like unprofessional knackers to get their move, they both got exactly what they wanted.  

For me the biggest difference is one had real economic necessity to move and the other didn’t.  Isak wouldn’t need to work after football regardless. With his age, profile in the game and existing contract he would never have to work again and provide for a family. This is with him getting back to back ACLs even and being finished.  
 

While at Brentford if Wissa suddenly had major injuries he would need to think about how he’ll feed his family for the rest of his life.  

[Maggies]

Howe spoke about Wissa during press conference:

- routine scan yesterday

- remains on-track and ready to push harder

- don’t expect immediate results and will take up to 6 weeks once he’s training, before we see the very best of him

 

That last answer was very much the usual Howe cautious approach.

 

 

 

[TRon]

6 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

That does suggest Wissa and Isak did exactly the same thing tbf - Wissa wanted to play CL football, Isak wanted to join a club who could win it.  They both used their clubs as stepping stones, they both acted like unprofessional knackers to get their move, they both got exactly what they wanted.  

 

 

Football is about money these days. For clubs, owners and players. Once you accept it, then not worth getting too wound up when players come and go on the back of it. That's just the way the world is set up to work these days, otherwise why would we need corporate boxes at football grounds?

 

 

[Erikse]

13 minutes ago, Maggies said:

Howe spoke about Wissa during press conference:

- routine scan yesterday

- remains on-track and ready to push harder

- don’t expect immediate results and will take up to 6 weeks once he’s training, before we see the very best of him

 

That last answer was very much the usual Howe cautious approach.

 

 

 

 

8 weeks until AFCON, perfect.

[Fenham Mag]

Any news on his ACL?

[Elliottman]

2 minutes ago, Fenham Mag said:

Any news on his ACL?

 

Fell off apparently. 

[SteV]

1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

 

While at Brentford if Wissa suddenly had major injuries he would need to think about how he’ll feed his family for the rest of his life.  

That might be pushing it a bit like, he was on £25k p/w.

 

So maybe not enough to set his kids up for life, but I don’t think he would ever have an issue ‘feeding them’.

[SteV]

6 minutes ago, Fenham Mag said:

Any news on his ACL?

Just gonna play through it.

[Fenham Mag]

20 hours ago, Virtua Stiva said:

Lad that gets all the team news reckons he’s done his ACL in training today

 

Wish this bollocks would just stop like.

[janpawel]

Great news, feel like Howe specifically mentioning this 6 week pre season as something done intentionally and relating to him possibly not going for international duty