Yoane Wissa

[r0cafella]

11 hours ago, Smal said:

given that the third midfielder has been so ineffective recently, I’d agree with some of the comments above. Can’t see why we haven’t tried him and Woltemade together at all.

 

Not that he looked like getting on the end of anything tonight anymore than Woltemade did, like.

 

 

 

It was pathetic decision making from the manager if we are being all the way honest  

[Yorkie]

2 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

It was pathetic decision making from the manager if we are being all the way honest  

 

Eh? Pathetic? Woltemade was absolutely rubbish last night. Spent the game observing balls fly across him, punctuated with the ball occasionally bouncing off him. There wasn't a thing wrong with the service to him. 

 

For all the criticism of the subs, we continued to play the game in their first third and all the best chances happened once they'd been made. Wissa scores if Barnes doesn't inexplicably pull it back for Gordon.

[r0cafella]

2 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

Eh? Pathetic? Woltemade was absolutely rubbish last night. Spent the game observing balls fly across him, punctuated with the ball occasionally bouncing off him. There wasn't a thing wrong with the service to him. 

 

For all the criticism of the subs, we continued to play the game in their first third and all the best chances happened once they'd been made. Wissa scores if Barnes doesn't inexplicably pull it back for Gordon.

Yes pathetic. Losing and more of the same, at some point he had to switch it up and yesterday was the perfect opportunity to do so. They were for the taking man. 

[Yorkie]

3 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Yes pathetic. Losing and more of the same, at some point he had to switch it up and yesterday was the perfect opportunity to do so. They were for the taking man. 

 

Agreed. I wish we'd capitalised on one of the several good opportunities we'd made for ourselves after those subs.

[r0cafella]

4 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

Agreed. I wish we'd capitalised on one of the several good opportunities we'd made for ourselves after those subs.

I wish we tried something different to get us out of our away form rut. 

[SteV]

I’m completely convinced that Wissa and Woltemade in the same team is ultimately the way forward. 
 

However, what the ‘just do it man’ crew need to realise is that it completely changes the balance of the team, and it’s going to take (training) time to get that restructure right.

 

As convinced as I am that it’s the way forward, it’s no good having them in the same team if we get overrun in midfield because we haven’t got the set up right.

[duo]

2 minutes ago, SteV said:

I’m completely convinced that Wissa and Woltemade in the same team is ultimately the way forward. 
 

However, what the ‘just do it man’ crew need to realise is that it completely changes the balance of the team, and it’s going to take (training) time to get that restructure right.

 

As convinced as I am that it’s the way forward, it’s no good having them in the same team if we get overrun in midfield because we haven’t got the set up right.

That's where Hall and Miley come in - they help fill that void

[r0cafella]

Just now, SteV said:

I’m completely convinced that Wissa and Woltemade in the same team is ultimately the way forward. 
 

However, what the ‘just do it man’ crew need to realise is that it completely changes the balance of the team, and it’s going to take (training) time to get that restructure right.

 

As convinced as I am that it’s the way forward, it’s no good having them in the same team if we get overrun in midfield because we haven’t got the set up right.

Obviously the balance changes, everyone knows this but they had a week to prepare and what they served yesterday wasn't acceptable again. We really need to start exploring alternatives and quickly..

[SteV]

8 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Obviously the balance changes, everyone knows this but they had a week to prepare and what they served yesterday wasn't acceptable again. We really need to start exploring alternatives and quickly..

Is a week (six days) long enough to completely restructure the way we play?

Bruce (I know, comparing a top of the range model with an old banger…) used to do it all the time, lose badly, then try and change everything for a game a week later, and it hardly ever worked.

 

I honestly don’t think we’ll see them playing regularly together until next season.

 

 

Edited December 27, 2025 by SteV

[r0cafella]

Just now, SteV said:

Is a week (six days) long enough to completely restructure the way we play?

Bruce (I know, comparing a top the range model with an old banger…) used to do it all the time, lose badly, then try and change everything for a game a week later, and it hardly ever worked.

 

I honestly don’t think we’ll see them playing regularly together until next season.

No, it probably isn't however you have to try as I said. Ultimately we are in a massive rut and creativity will be needed to get us out of it. It's stale and it looks like we've been figured out. 

[Sibierski]

Is the structure change really that much different to Isak / Wilson first season?

 

I don’t think we will see both play together unless injuries/suspension dictate things (Barnes and Gordon both out). 
 

Howe wanted two strikers, and with Wolte being an unknown, it was desperation that drove the Wissa deal, with it being someone that knows the league and associated demands. Didn’t want only one striker, otherwise Osula would’ve been accepted as 2nd choice.

[gbandit]

16 minutes ago, SteV said:

I’m completely convinced that Wissa and Woltemade in the same team is ultimately the way forward. 
 

However, what the ‘just do it man’ crew need to realise is that it completely changes the balance of the team, and it’s going to take (training) time to get that restructure right.

 

As convinced as I am that it’s the way forward, it’s no good having them in the same team if we get overrun in midfield because we haven’t got the set up right.

I completely agree that it’s the way forward. Think it has the potential to completely transform us going forwards. Not sure at what point we’ll see it this season though, if at all

 

 

Edited December 27, 2025 by gbandit

[SteV]

Just now, Sibierski said:

 

Is the structure change really that much different to Isak / Wilson first season?

 

I feel like Woltemade is the difference.
 

He’s so unique, with such an ‘odd’ skill set, you really need to adapt to play around it.

 

With Wilson and Isak, obviously it was mainly Isak drifting out wide, but Wilson could do that do a degree, to interchange.

 

No good Woltemade drifting out wide, he needs to drop into midfield and link. 

[SteV]

14 minutes ago, duo said:

That's where Hall and Miley come in - they help fill that void

I agree, it probably will be something along those lines. I just don’t think it’s a quick fix to do it at PL level.

[duo]

I agree - I think lack of time on the training ground is hampering us as that's where Eddie excels.  But atm we lack that luxury so sometimes you've just got to try something in a game before you have managed to perfect it on the training pitch.

[Jack14Bojangles]

24 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Obviously the balance changes, everyone knows this but they had a week to prepare and what they served yesterday wasn't acceptable again. We really need to start exploring alternatives and quickly..

Exactly. We need to introduce options that will make us more unpredictable.

Wolte and Wissa together on the field is one of them.

And for me, a very good one.

[bobbydazzla]

With a Wissa bit of luck, he starts with Nick on tuesday night

 

Holler with the rinsin sound

Holler with the rinsin sound 

Holler with the rinsin sound 

Holler with the rinsin sound 

 

 

Edited December 27, 2025 by bobbydazzla

[Dr.Spaceman]

The king of Africa

[Ronson333]

He’s got that Bellamy pest syndrome, love it 

[JigsawGoesToPieces]

Scores and breaks the forum

[oldtype]

On 26/12/2025 at 14:51, oldtype said:

If he’s going to start, he should probably replace Woltemade in the starting lineup (which would have been the plan prior to his injury anyway)

 

 

[Erikse]

Just 1 more to equal mr. "missed pre season", after missing pre season and further 3 months after that, with limited training.

 

 

Edited December 30, 2025 by Erikse

[Holloway]

He'll get 17 this season all comps,the most important one being the winner in the Cl quarter final 

 

 

Edited December 30, 2025 by Holloway

[oldtype]

He reminds me so much of Cisse when he's running on the pitch. Same stature, gait, squad number (and hairdo). Hopefully he'll inherit Cisse's half season of astronomically good luck as well.

[Pilko]

That's a sitter. 

 

Yoana Missa