gbandit Posted September 17, 2025 Share Posted September 17, 2025 2 minutes ago, Danh1 said: The article was probably co-written by someone at Liverpool. They’re a vile football club and Lahm is clearly an utter cunt. Hopefully his chair is empty at the family table this Christmas due to his unexpected death. Prick. Burst out laughing in the dentist’s waiting room at the over the top sentiments here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted September 17, 2025 Share Posted September 17, 2025 7 minutes ago, Interpolic said: Never seen this saltiness for German talents arriving at Sky 6 clubs in the past, like Havertz, Werner or Podolski. They seem to be a nation of Steve Parishes. I think the big difference is those players (not sure about Havertz) weren't coveted by Bayern (Podolski had already played for them) It's quite obviously massive bitterness, which is why I suspect it won't actually have much impact on Woltemade. I read the other day that Lother Matthaus warned Bayern earlier this summer that Woltemade would cost excess of 80m euros and they didn't listen. He was always one of their smarter ex players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyUtd Posted September 17, 2025 Share Posted September 17, 2025 What a vomit inducing crock of shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted September 17, 2025 Share Posted September 17, 2025 Quite a shocking article. Reads like a 19th century theorist, so stereotypically European Brahmin. Appears to be disgusted that he's unique rather than cookie cutter, needs goals to be a consequence of 'logic' and geometric patterns, rather than dribbling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted September 17, 2025 Share Posted September 17, 2025 That Guardian article screams of small man syndrome from Eddie Munster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewel Posted September 17, 2025 Share Posted September 17, 2025 19 minutes ago, Mole said: I think the big difference is those players (not sure about Havertz) weren't coveted by Bayern (Podolski had already played for them) It's quite obviously massive bitterness, which is why I suspect it won't actually have much impact on Woltemade. I read the other day that Lother Matthaus warned Bayern earlier this summer that Woltemade would cost excess of 80m euros and they didn't listen. He was always one of their smarter ex players. Him and Toni Kroos are the only likeable ex-Bayern players IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted September 17, 2025 Share Posted September 17, 2025 (edited) The article makes it out as if they were in the same price bracket. Wirtz cost 50m euro more than Woltemade.. It's nearly twice the price. Paying 125m is ALLWAYS a gamble. Like wtf? Luis Diaz played for Barranquilla and Atletico Junior when he was age 19-22. These teams doesn't even have a wiki page. I'm sure Sancho was also a "sure thing" like Wirtz back when Man Utd signed him. Edited September 18, 2025 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted September 17, 2025 Share Posted September 17, 2025 Bayern, who essentially always get their own way in German football, are pissed off on two counts. Firstly we got Woltemade and secondly how we went about it. Contrary to the "last minute" narrative it was a deal which was worked on for a while and for once it was kept under wraps by all in the club and some outside who knew what was happening. By the time Bayern knew what was really happening he was already in Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted September 17, 2025 Share Posted September 17, 2025 5 minutes ago, Erikse said: The article makes it out as if they were in the same price bracket. Wirtz cost 60m euro more than Woltemade.. It's nearly twice the price. Paying 136m IS ALLWAYS a gamle. Like wtf? Luis Diaz played for Barranquilla and Atletico Junior when he was age 19-22. These teams doesn't even have a wiki page. I'm sure Sancho was also a "sure thing" like Wirtz back when Man Utd signed him. Spot on As was Havertz who hasn't been great, as was Timo Werner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted September 17, 2025 Share Posted September 17, 2025 (edited) Also. Comparing the price with transfers done 10-18 years ago as if it's the same thing? That's peak desperation. Edited September 17, 2025 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checko Posted September 17, 2025 Share Posted September 17, 2025 I'm too disgusted to even read the article. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 17, 2025 Share Posted September 17, 2025 55 minutes ago, Mole said: Not knowing what he's going to do next even if it were true isn't really a bad thing. Being unpredictable instead of having pre- meditated patterns can absolutely be a good thing. All in all it's such a weird thing to say to paint that as a negative. It’s a dichotomy between intelligence and skill vs random happenstance or some unquantifiable magic that just happens. The game of football is about disguise and unpredictability. It’s difficult to stop what you can’t predict. When it’s used to describe a player it’s to say ‘yes they’ve done a good thing but it wasn’t intentional - some element of luck’. For Lahm what he’s saying is ‘yeh he’s scored some goals but look at him, it’s not natural or repeatable.’ It’s a backhanded compliment. A compliment is ‘he’s an instinctive finisher’ - he may improvise his finishes but he has that ability to find a way to score. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted September 17, 2025 Share Posted September 17, 2025 Dont take it personally lads, we've seen it all before. La Liga commentator Jon Driscoll, told BBC Radio Newcastle that "no other team" would pay £60m for Alexander Isak because of his "awful" stats from last season. "Realistically, if he was moving within La Liga, he's moving for £15m euros," Driscoll told BBC Radio Newcastle. "The transfer market has gone crazy between La Liga and Premier League Clubs and Newcastle are at the top of that madly distorted market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted September 17, 2025 Share Posted September 17, 2025 2 minutes ago, Elliottman said: Dont take it personally lads, we've seen it all before. La Liga commentator Jon Driscoll, told BBC Radio Newcastle that "no other team" would pay £60m for Alexander Isak because of his "awful" stats from last season. "Realistically, if he was moving within La Liga, he's moving for £15m euros," Driscoll told BBC Radio Newcastle. "The transfer market has gone crazy between La Liga and Premier League Clubs and Newcastle are at the top of that madly distorted market. This is stupid too because no team worth anything would let a down season stop them from pulling the trigger on a 5+ year investment. No one who is actually competent is that short sighted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted September 17, 2025 Share Posted September 17, 2025 People in the media seeming to dislike Newcastle? That’s a new one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted September 17, 2025 Share Posted September 17, 2025 Philip Lahm must have missed Wirtz' games against Us, Bournemouth and Burnley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalloNUFC Posted September 17, 2025 Share Posted September 17, 2025 24 minutes ago, Erikse said: The article makes it out as if they were in the same price bracket. Wirtz cost 60m euro more than Woltemade.. It's nearly twice the price. Paying 136m IS ALLWAYS a gamle. Like wtf? Luis Diaz played for Barranquilla and Atletico Junior when he was age 19-22. These teams doesn't even have a wiki page. I'm sure Sancho was also a "sure thing" like Wirtz back when Man Utd signed him. Even Harry kane was about to became a free agent at the age of 21 with carrer highlights of making bench of norwich and leicester when the stint of Tim Sherwood saved his career and he didn't look back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarie4 Posted September 17, 2025 Share Posted September 17, 2025 Wirtz is small, and he plays that number 10 role, you know, floating around and trying to create something it works in Spain and Germany, but I don't think it'll fly in the Premier League. Look at Maddison, even Havertz had to change things up when he came to England. Teams are so compact, physically strong, fitter and there's no space in the middle. I just don't see him fitting in. Liverpool's won all four league games, so Wirtz hasn't been getting as much attention. It'll be interesting to see what the media says when they start dropping points. Nick's at the right club to get better. We make chances all the time, and if he finishes them, he'll score 20 goals in all comps, easy. We just gotta manage his game time till Wissa's back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted September 17, 2025 Share Posted September 17, 2025 Lahm is about to be educated on Eddie Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted September 17, 2025 Share Posted September 17, 2025 Time to send our agent Toni Kroos around Lahm’s house to give him a slap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OoOGazOoO Posted September 17, 2025 Share Posted September 17, 2025 Nice balanced article there from Lahm. What an absolute melon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 17, 2025 Share Posted September 17, 2025 35 minutes ago, tarie4 said: Wirtz is small, and he plays that number 10 role, you know, floating around and trying to create something it works in Spain and Germany, but I don't think it'll fly in the Premier League. Look at Maddison, even Havertz had to change things up when he came to England. Teams are so compact, physically strong, fitter and there's no space in the middle. I just don't see him fitting in. Liverpool's won all four league games, so Wirtz hasn't been getting as much attention. It'll be interesting to see what the media says when they start dropping points. Nick's at the right club to get better. We make chances all the time, and if he finishes them, he'll score 20 goals in all comps, easy. We just gotta manage his game time till Wissa's back. Silva dominated this league. Santi Cazorla played CM in a more physical era. So far Wirtz just doesn’t have the minerals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted September 17, 2025 Share Posted September 17, 2025 Read the article and don't really understand the meaning of it. Very weird thing to publish. Summed up: Liverpool good, Newcastle bad. Wirtz good, Woltemade bad. Wirtz expensive good, Woltemade expensive bad. That's...that's like your opinion, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted September 17, 2025 Share Posted September 17, 2025 Very few great players make great pundits, analysts or managers. Add Lahm to the list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted September 17, 2025 Share Posted September 17, 2025 27 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Silva dominated this league. Santi Cazorla played CM in a more physical era. So far Wirtz just doesn’t have the minerals. I was going to say, there's a very big list of small, creative midfielders who have dominated. That cannot be the excuse at all, if you're truly good enough you'll make it happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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