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On 14/12/2025 at 21:56, Yorkie said:

Saying he's not a striker is just manufacturing a way to be forgiving, and also a bad shout in terms of finding a solution. He's a striker, and that's all he ever has been throughout his career so far. 

 

He's just very unaggressive, slow and clumsy, at least he is at the moment. Goes without saying that he and everyone else needs him out of the team ASAP.

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Still hurting, WM? He didn't play in the next game, anyway. Nice gotcha though. :rolleyes:

 

He was fucking shocking against Sunderland and not much better against Leverkusen. It was hardly a ridiculous comment at the time.

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8 minutes ago, HMSIllustrious said:

In general I think this should differentiate us from other fanbases. On Redcafe for example, after every defeat, they want to sell all players bar Bruno, let‘s be more level-headed than them. 

Just listen to the reception he got when he came on V Fulham.

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2 hours ago, HMSIllustrious said:

In general I think this should differentiate us from other fanbases. On Redcafe for example, after every defeat, they want to sell all players bar Bruno, let‘s be more level-headed than them. 

 

If that's aimed at me then I would respond to say the last thing I want (or have said!) is that I want to sell him. I'll gladly defend any player on the club's books, and I like Woltemade. Just felt incredibly frustrated by his powderpuff/self-destructive performances against Leverkusen/the mackems, and do feel a somewhat unconvinced he'll ever be the one for us in the long run. But not writing him off to any degree.

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1 hour ago, Yorkie said:

 

If that's aimed at me then I would respond to say the last thing I want (or have said!) is that I want to sell him. I'll gladly defend any player on the club's books, and I like Woltemade. Just felt incredibly frustrated by his powderpuff/self-destructive performances against Leverkusen/the mackems, and do feel a somewhat unconvinced he'll ever be the one for us in the long run. But not writing him off to any degree.

No, it wasn‘t about you specifically, I know you just want us to be as good as possible (and by that every player on the teamsheet too). It was more about the general phenomenon that people forget that these guys are young men and not machines and always expect them to be flawless.

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Maybe watching Wissa’s movement and (hopefully) success in the box during games will inspire him to try to emulate it.

 

Doesn’t need blistering pace in and around the 6 yard box just better anticipation.

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Amazed anyone is doubting this lad. Has all the attributes to be an absolutely fantastic player for us. 

 

He's going to show inconsistencies this season, of course he is. He's a 23 year old kid in his first year in the most aggressive league in Europe. Who has been hoyed in every single game since he signed. 

 

We could see on Saturday how the mid week break benefited him, looked a lot sharper. 7 in 14 as it stands I think? Could easily have been in double figures too. 

 

No doubts about him at all, give him service he'll do the rest. 

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1 hour ago, Lotus said:

Maybe watching Wissa’s movement and (hopefully) success in the box during games will inspire him to try to emulate it.

 

Doesn’t need blistering pace in and around the 6 yard box just better anticipation.

All I ever hear about is Wissa. Now Wolte is supposed to learn something from him.

Wissa first has to emulate Wolte and score seven goals in the Premier League.

So far, Wissa is still a great prospect for me. You're all pushing him like he's the Messiah. His goal was due to a huge goalkeeping error. I won't celebrate Wissa until he's delivered that.

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5 minutes ago, Jack14Bojangles said:

All I ever hear about is Wissa. Now Wolte is supposed to learn something from him.

Wissa first has to emulate Wolte and score seven goals in the Premier League.

So far, Wissa is still a great prospect for me. You're all pushing him like he's the Messiah. His goal was due to a huge goalkeeping error. I won't celebrate Wissa until he's delivered that.

 

Wissa's been delivering in a team of less quality in the PL for 2 years as a striker and is a proven goalscorer and finisher, Wolte is the player with potential. Wissa we bought as the finished article.

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7 minutes ago, Jack14Bojangles said:

All I ever hear about is Wissa. Now Wolte is supposed to learn something from him.

Wissa first has to emulate Wolte and score seven goals in the Premier League.

So far, Wissa is still a great prospect for me. You're all pushing him like he's the Messiah. His goal was due to a huge goalkeeping error. I won't celebrate Wissa until he's delivered that.

 

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Wissa's goal was down to him gambling where the ball was going to land. He scored loads of goals last year which look like lucky tap ins but it's down to him anticipating where the ball will land and being athletic enough to get into those areas ahead of the defence. It might only come off 1 in every 10 times (number pulled out of my arse) but over the course of a season those kinds of goals will stack up. A static striker or a one who just follows the ball will rarely be in the right place for a tap in.

 

I agree Woltemade's strike rate and box presence is massively underrated like, especially given his lack of top flight experience. A few great saves and defensive blocks have stopped him notching a couple more too. He's never going to be as athletic as Wissa but his strength and reach can hopefully make up for that.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Lotus said:

Maybe watching Wissa’s movement and (hopefully) success in the box during games will inspire him to try to emulate it.

 

Doesn’t need blistering pace in and around the 6 yard box just better anticipation.

I reckon they will definitely help improve each other in training. 

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4 minutes ago, HawK said:

 

Wissa's been delivering in a team of less quality in the PL for 2 years as a striker and is a proven goalscorer and finisher, Wolte is the player with potential. Wissa we bought as the finished article.

Okay, but he has to deliver first. Until he's shown that, I'll refrain from praising him.
 

The Rat hasn't lived up to expectations at Reds either. One of the biggest flops I've ever seen. And the Rat was supposedly outstanding here.

 

Past glory is irrelevant. What matters is today.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Jack14Bojangles said:

Okay, but he has to deliver first. Until he's shown that, I'll refrain from praising him.
 

The Rat hasn't lived up to expectations at Reds either. One of the biggest flops I've ever seen. And the Rat was supposedly outstanding here.

 

Past glory is irrelevant. What matters is today.

 

 

No need to be overly critical of Wissa. We know you love Nick to pieces, but this is not Woltemade United, we support all our players as long as they wear the kit.

Wissa has returned from injury and needs to get sharp again, so of course he‘s not moving mountains yet.

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I remember years ago with Dwight Gayle. A high ball was lifted from way out towards the goalkeeper (might have been Green) Gayle chased after the flight of the ball which was dropping into the goalkeepers arms. But Gayle anticipated that the keeper might fumble what looked like an easy catch. But he did fumble it and Gayle was there to take advantage and rolled the ball into the net.

That was anticipation and it's something you can't really teach

 

 

 

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15 minutes ago, HMSIllustrious said:

No need to be overly critical of Wissa. We know you love Nick to pieces, but this is not Woltemade United, we support all our players as long as they wear the kit.

Wissa has returned from injury and needs to get sharp again, so of course he‘s not moving mountains yet.

Except Elanga of course the geet big minge he is.

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On 20/12/2025 at 13:31, TBG said:

Fyi, the Adidas store is out of stock of the letter 'W' for those going to order the long sleeved Germany shirt.

 

Back in stock. 

 

Howay, das langärmlige Deutschland-Trikot

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