HawK Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 25 minutes ago, kingxlnc said: Have second strikers ever worked well at NUFC? Ayoze I guess was decent anyone else? Tomasson no Gallacher no Bellamy yes Owen as the withdrawn one sort of yes Gouffran no Asprilla was fun but not really forgot the main one Beardsley was awesome so probably no one since him Ferdinand and Ferguson were both effective but they were line leaders in their own right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mills and Boon Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Lovenkrands and Nolan off big Andy worked well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Ayoze off Rondon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir_9 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 (edited) One of Howe's limitations as a football coach (there are a few) is he couldn't fit a footballing style around this guy who is clearly talented and offers a very high ceiling dimension Very very talented lad unfortunately playing for the wrong coach I've accepted he'll do well elsewhere. Edited May 13 by Amir_9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 9 hours ago, The College Dropout said: Imagine selling Alvarez and replacing him with Woltemade Imagine selling Isak and replacing him with Woltemade Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 22 minutes ago, Amir_9 said: One of Howe's limitations as a football coach (there are a few) is he couldn't fit a footballing style around this guy who is clearly talented and offers a very high ceiling dimension Very very talented lad unfortunately playing for the wrong coach I've accepted he'll do well elsewhere. To be fair, he did come in very very late in that window. Will be interesting to see if they cook something up to try and get more out of him that benefits the team, now the season's done. It's just such a shame that it's a World Cup summer, as that won't help things. Then again maybe they can pick things up from how he's used in the Germany setup. Hope he does well in the tournament and they scout those games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Of all the criticisms of Howe, not getting the best out of Wolte ISN'T something I think is tremendously valid. Lad has a lot of fundamental holes in his game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 (edited) 44 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Of all the criticisms of Howe, not getting the best out of Wolte ISN'T something I think is tremendously valid. Lad has a lot of fundamental holes in his game. Maybe our scouts just watch the greatest hits compilations on YouTube. See Elanga and Wissa too. I'd love all 3 to come good personally. Will they? fook knows. Edited May 14 by PauloGeordio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 I just think we were in a position of crisis management to various extents through the season, rarely in a position where Howe believed we could experiment, introduce new things and risk introducing a player like Woltemade slowly like we would've wanted. I don't think this season necessarily means that we'll never be able to get anything out of Nick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 2 hours ago, The College Dropout said: Of all the criticisms of Howe, not getting the best out of Wolte ISN'T something I think is tremendously valid. Lad has a lot of fundamental holes in his game. Well if you listen to Howe, he is still making noises that we will see the best of Woltemade next season. Not sure he's saying that with a straight face, but if we sell it would presumably be for a significant loss. I'm not sure I see that happening either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 2 hours ago, The College Dropout said: Of all the criticisms of Howe, not getting the best out of Wolte ISN'T something I think is tremendously valid. Lad has a lot of fundamental holes in his game. Wissa on the other hand Im baffled how they are not getting any football out of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 8 minutes ago, TRon said: Well if you listen to Howe, he is still making noises that we will see the best of Woltemade next season. Not sure he's saying that with a straight face, but if we sell it would presumably be for a significant loss. I'm not sure I see that happening either. I don't have any expectations. Maybe he stays and is great. Maybe he leaves and goes into obscurity. No idea. He's 24 and has had 1 good 12 months in his career. I expect he's always been a bit soft and passive. Things clicked... and now have unclicked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 (edited) On 14/05/2026 at 12:58, The College Dropout said: I don't have any expectations. Maybe he stays and is great. Maybe he leaves and goes into obscurity. No idea. He's 24 and has had 1 good 12 months in his career. I expect he's always been a bit soft and passive. Things clicked... and now have unclicked. I feel like it was a bit like the new manager effect. Opponents quickly learned how to nullify him, and our attack with him in it. Edited May 16 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 (edited) On 14/05/2026 at 09:06, The College Dropout said: Of all the criticisms of Howe, not getting the best out of Wolte ISN'T something I think is tremendously valid. Lad has a lot of fundamental holes in his game. Couldn't disagree more - it's not like he inherited this player. He chose to spend a club record fee on him. And as he keeps saying the club cannot afford to get a signing wrong. Edited May 16 by duo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 25 minutes ago, duo said: Couldn't disagree more - it's not like he inherited this player. He chose to spend a club record fee on him. And as he keeps saying the club cannot afford to get a signing wrong. He was forced to sign him because 4-5 of his preferred options signed elsewhere. I don't know another scenario where you'd hold anyone else to full account when they only had the 6th best option at their disposal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 2 minutes ago, Thumbheed said: He was forced to sign him because 4-5 of his preferred options signed elsewhere. Am sorry but no one forced Eddie to spend a record fee on Nick - he chose to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 On 14/05/2026 at 01:01, Amir_9 said: One of Howe's limitations as a football coach (there are a few) is he couldn't fit a footballing style around this guy who is clearly talented and offers a very high ceiling dimension Very very talented lad unfortunately playing for the wrong coach I've accepted he'll do well elsewhere. Is he ”very very talented” though? I’m doubtful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 7 minutes ago, duo said: Am sorry but no one forced Eddie to spend a record fee on Nick - he chose to. What choice did he have? What were his other options? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 26 minutes ago, Thumbheed said: What choice did he have? What were his other options? Keeping Isak was one of them. Ridiculous spending £70 mil on a player if you've no idea as to how to fit them into your team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 I think he’s talented in the box. He’s a smart finisher. He just doesn’t have the speed and fitness to press the way Eddie wants our striker to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 4 minutes ago, duo said: Keeping Isak was one of them. Ridiculous spending £70 mil on a player if you've no idea as to how to fit them into your team. We experienced 2 different summer transfers windows. I feel like you missed most of it re: Isak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 1 hour ago, duo said: Couldn't disagree more - it's not like he inherited this player. He chose to spend a club record fee on him. And as he keeps saying the club cannot afford to get a signing wrong. No top level club that operates properly would let a manager dictate who the club spends big money on so I don’t care about all of that. We signed Woltemade because we didn’t have a proper scouting, transfer committee and DOF system in place. Thats on ownership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 I am not saying he wasn't left short but Eddie still signed him and for club record fee man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. TC Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 There's a lot of revisionism on here. We could never have kept Isak We failed to get anyone else before Nick Most of us on here were absolutely delighted when he signed, salivating over YouTube clips, calling sour grapes on Bayern for saying we overpaid, and gloating at Man U and Arsenal when he started better than Sesko and Gyokeres. Second half of the season it has gone wrong somehow, but I still think Eddie will find a way for it to work. And if not, I think he will find success elsewhere. And if not, it at least wasn't obvious to everyone he would fail before he arrived. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Mover Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 I don't see any world where Wolt becomes a success for us or for anyone in the premier league, he needs to play somewhere a lot slower and less physical. If we could get any remotely reasonable amount for him we should sell. And whoever made the decision to sign such an unsuitable player should resign or have been sacked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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