Bayer Leverkusen 2-2 Newcastle United (10/12/25) | post-match from pg. 61

[Boey_Jarton]

5 minutes ago, ElDiablo said:

I don't actually mind sitting on a narrow lead late on. It's just our way of doing it is crap. Flat midfield with players finding pockets of space in front of the defence. It looks poorly coached if I'm brutally honest.

Agree. The midfield form a flat bank of five out of possession, allowing one pass to take 2-3 players out of of the game. 

 

This has been a constant theme throughout this season - it was particularly bad at West Ham. 

[Trewicks tash]

Would have given wissa more than 2 minutes like

[black_n_white]

1 minute ago, bobbydazzla said:

That doesn’t explain why they were whinging like fuck throughout the entire game.

 

We’re in the Champions League. Enjoy it. 

Fair, with a bit of luck one of those efforts off the post goes in, they’d be over the moon then!

[Elric]

8 minutes ago, alexf said:

Lads that started looked shattered towards the end. Especially Tonali in the build up to their equaliser. 

 

Doesn't bode well for the weekend. 

 

Felt inevitable we would concede late after those two big chances to go 1:3 up. 

 

Felt like we were really unlucky not to win that in the end but I suppose if the same thing keeps happening over and over then it becomes less about luck and something we need to fix. 

 

If only there were some kinda mechanism where a manager could take one knackered player from the pitch and send on a different player in his stead 🤔

[Deuce]

At least we didn’t lose away again?

[TRon]

Just now, Trewicks tash said:

Would have given wissa more than 2 minutes like

 

If you don't want to use him just leave him on the bench. 90 seconds of injury time is just bemusing. 

[black_n_white]

2 minutes ago, Theregulars said:

It’s a good result all-in but I’m sorry that’s dogshit from Tonali for their second. Sold on the dummy and then gives up running, not good enough. 

I think he was running on empty, should have been subbed 10 mins earlier

[Kanj]

Tonali, our def and Ramsdale for their equalizer. Totally avoidable. 

[RodneyCisse]

4 minutes ago, Beren said:

Also, the ref gave us pretty much everything tonight.

Them too, allowed their free kicks to be taken out of position multiple times.

[Sibierski]

Tonali was very hot and cold tonight. He’s a rolls Royce when he’s in full flight, and I don’t ever question his desire to bust a gut to work back, but last few weeks he has been proper sloppy in his general play.
 

Feels it’s ever since the contract news come to light. He’s held in high regard by our fans so the attention won’t be on him for some time, but he needs to buck up his ideas to warrant being a first name picked. Because he’s as much as culprit as anyone else for why we’re so shit with the ball.

[RodneyCisse]

Just now, black_n_white said:

I think he was running on empty, should have been subbed 10 mins earlier

Poor bloke covered more ground than everyone else in the middle, got caught out after a long run up the other end.

[Keggy_Keagal]

Harsh on Ramsdale for the equaliser 

[geordie_b]

1 minute ago, black_n_white said:

I think he was running on empty, should have been subbed 10 mins earlier

 

He was knackered after all the massive recovery runs he was forced to do, most were his fault tonight though

[madras]

FWIW PSV need to go for it up here given their last game is Bayern Munich.

[Displayname]

Don't want to complain about Tonali myself, look at the amount of minutes he has played for club and country this season, it's not sustainable. Especially with how much he runs each game.

 

 

Edited December 10, 2025 by Displayname

[NobertoSolano]

15 minutes ago, ElDiablo said:

I don't actually mind sitting on a narrow lead late on. It's just our way of doing it is crap. Flat midfield with players finding pockets of space in front of the defence. It looks poorly coached if I'm brutally honest.

 

Agreed. It seems there is never a true DM (pocket sitter) or two.. and so once someone presses there are gaps all over the place. Definitely a tactical issue 

[Disco]

Just now, madras said:

FWIW PSV need to go for it up here given their last game is Bayern Munich.

Peter ‘ABOSH’ Bosz doesn’t know how to play any other way tbf to him. 

[Andy]

3 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

If you don't want to use him just leave him on the bench. 90 seconds of injury time is just bemusing. 

 

Especially when we were just gathering some momentum again, it was like they were time wasting subs to kill the game - and they did. Really odd. 

[alexf]

Kept saying we needed fresh legs before the equaliser. He just doesn't trust Ramsey or Willock in those moments which is having a knock on impact. Tonali and Tino were both running on empty.

[JigsawGoesToPieces]

Goals we have conceded this season after 75 mins in all comps

 

78,79,84,84,88
90+4,90+5,90+6, 90+6,90+7, 90+10

[Keegans Export]

14 minutes ago, Scoot said:

 

Exactly. 

 

Great point away from home and player very well 2nd half.

 

Its the last minute goals that are the killer in terms of mood.

 

No doubt everyone will be shite again after we conceded.

It's because it's not a one off though isn't it?

 

In isolation, yes it's a good point (I would have taken it before KO) but looking at the season as a whole it's a continuation of a worrying trend - regularly unable to see games out, subs too late, mood killed.

 

Every so often you can say oh we could have gone 3-1 up, a draw is a good result etc but we've had five of these in less than six weeks. 

[Drewboy74]

Whose that scouse cunt on TNT? Says it was a soft pen. Keepers trailing leg catches his ankle, clear pen for me.

[Displayname]

Being proactive is not Eddie's greatest strenght I think we can say.

[Keefaz]

So, still need to concede on 85,86,87,89,90,91,92,93 to get the full set

2 minutes ago, JigsawGoesToPieces said:

Goals we have conceded this season after 75 mins in all comps

 

78,79,84,84,88
90+4,90+5,90+6, 90+6,90+7, 90+10

 

[The Butcher]

How do we even fix this mentality, or lack off?

 

Practice with the ball a bit in training perhaps, pass it around a bit and that,  but honestly I've no idea.