Big Geordie Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) So today for our game, we had Don Goodman (ex Wolves and the mackems) doing co-comms for Sky. Yesterday. Gary Neville (ex Man United) was doing the same thing for the Manc derby and just now, Dion Dublin (ex Villa) is in the seat for Villa v Everton on 5Live. Problem is for me, as much as these lads may try - they can't try hard enough to hide their inevitable bias, to favor their former sides. Whatever happened to genuine impartiality on a game, rather than it being so one-side as it was for our game today v Wolves? old It's not a new thing either - I also remember Sky bringing in Niall Quinn to do the job when we played the mackems in the past. Am I becoming an old grump in my old age, or do others find this a turn off? Edited January 18 by Big Geordie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Sick of listening to either biased co commentators, or dull as dishwater ramblings from the likes of Chris Sutton or Alan Smith. I'm partial to a bit of Scottish passion personally. Ally McCoist and dare I say it, Andy Gray were more my cup of tea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Just now, TRon said: Sick of listening to either biased co commentators, or dull as dishwater ramblings from the likes of Chris Sutton or Alan Smith. I'm partial to a bit of Scottish passion personally. Ally McCoist and dare I say it, Andy Gray were more my cup of tea. Jim Beglin a big miss as well imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) It’s fucking shite. I can’t even listen to commentators anymore, I just put music on and watch the game on mute. They offer very little useful insight even at the best of times and the modern phenomenon of a former one-club player jizzing in his kegs / whinging his arse off because his beloved team is winning / losing is aural Ebola. Edited January 18 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hovagod Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 6 minutes ago, Big Geordie said: Problem is for me, as much as these lads may try They don’t, do they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Stadium FX option with no commentary is still peak and should be an option on all channels and platforms. Sign my petition below Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 6 minutes ago, Big Geordie said: So today for our game, we had Don Goodman (ex Wolves and the mackems) doing co-comms for Sky. Yesterday. Gary Neville (ex Man United) was doing the same thing for the Manc derby and just now, Dion Dublin (ex Villa) is in the seat for Villa v Everton on 5Live. Problem is for me, as much as these lads may try - they can't try hard enough to hide their inevitable bias, to favor their former sides. Whatever happened to genuine impartiality on a game, rather than it being so one-side as it was for our game today v Wolves? It's not a new thing either - I also remember Sky bringing in Niall Quinn to do the job when we played the mackems in the past. Am I becoming an old grump in my age, or do others find this a turn off? The commentators today were gushing about Wolves. They were desperate for The Toon to be beaten. That's not on really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornah Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Probably biased but recall king Kev being canny alongside his old pal Brian Moore. Then again he could present the Antiques Roadshow and I would knock one out.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) 'Transparency' is the method of our era for all manner of obvious corruption and bias. All of it can be hand waved away by ensuring it's declared - even if that just means it's brazen. This is just another example of how football is political, that you can't escape it, and half of the stuff we hate about football all comes back to politics and capitalism, as daft as that might sound. Edited January 18 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 10 minutes ago, TRon said: Sick of listening to either biased co commentators, or dull as dishwater ramblings from the likes of Chris Sutton or Alan Smith. I'm partial to a bit of Scottish passion personally. Ally McCoist and dare I say it, Andy Gray were more my cup of tea. McCoist is really good, but I've never heard him on when he's covering Rangers or the mackems though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 4 minutes ago, Big Geordie said: McCoist is really good, but I've never heard him on when he's covering Rangers or the mackems though! I do like McCoist but I find him a bit irritating these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Just now, HaydnNUFC said: I do like McCoist but I find him a bit irritating these days. Overexposure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choppy Chop Chop Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Big Geordie said: So today for our game, we had Don Goodman (ex Wolves and the mackems) doing co-comms for Sky. Yesterday. Gary Neville (ex Man United) was doing the same thing for the Manc derby and just now, Dion Dublin (ex Villa) is in the seat for Villa v Everton on 5Live. Problem is for me, as much as these lads may try - they can't try hard enough to hide their inevitable bias, to favor their former sides. Whatever happened to genuine impartiality on a game, rather than it being so one-side as it was for our game today v Wolves? It's not a new thing either - I also remember Sky bringing in Niall Quinn to do the job when we played the mackems in the past. Am I becoming an old grump in my age, or do others find this a turn off? Been saying this for a while, It stinks to high heaven, Sky is just as bad with the studio `experts` We had Paul Merson whooping when West Ham scored against Spurs and it wasn't even the match he was watching Edited January 18 by Choppy Chop Chop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) The standard is deplorable and should subconsciously be part of the show like it was, people's opinions that you actually valued. There were two stand outs from the 90s John Fashanu for being not very good (short lived run) and Ian St John for being absolutely gutted we beat Dinamo Zagreb. That combination of not being very good and biased is standard now. You used to have to have some aptitude with either enthusiasm generally or love of the game, be a big name or have footballing or general intelligence. Sins aside Andy Gray and Big Ron were brilliant, the rest included Don Howe, David Pleat, Liam Brady, Bobby Charlton, Graham Taylor even local ITV regions had Barry Fry and Lennie Lawrence. It wasnt just some random former player that preferrably is a wanker performative or otherwise like now for the bants, crash Tv and clicks. Edited January 18 by Jonas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 I really enjoy all the ex Man Utd players tbh - they contribute a lot to the pressure on whoever is the current Man U boss - love it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 minute ago, Mikky said: I really enjoy all the ex Man Utd players tbh - they contribute a lot to the pressure on whoever is the current Man U boss - love it Got to be joking. Is this Froggy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Not the co-comm but the main commentator in our game said Tonali and Joao Gomes were from the same country - could have sworn one was Italian and the other Brazilian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 21 minutes ago, Big Geordie said: McCoist is really good, but I've never heard him on when he's covering Rangers or the mackems though! Coisty’s fucking shite, tried listening to the cunt cos people rate him but all that faux matey bantz with “Fletch” is just pure cringe. How Coisty managed to get balls deep in peak era Patsy Kensit, I’ll never understand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopL0ader Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) A differing view, I couldn't give a.... Sit there watching the football and chatting to my boy throughout so I couldn't give a damn who's commentating. Prefer listening to McCoist but what pleases me pisses someone else off, and vice versa. Today's society wanting everything their own way and needing others to see everything through their eyes. Chill watch the footy, have a beer and a chat whilst doing so rather than stressing over what a third-party is saying or not saying Edited January 18 by TopL0ader Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 I think commentary commentary is much worse than it used to be too. Even commentators that were previously good or seen as good got dragged down with it. Motson and Tyler ruined their legacies staying around far too long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 7 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: Coisty’s fucking shite, tried listening to the cunt cos people rate him but all that faux matey bantz with “Fletch” is just pure cringe. How Coisty managed to get balls deep in peak era Patsy Kensit, I’ll never understand. FFS Bobby, let it go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leemond Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 The state of commentary isn't spoken about enough. Absolutely shocking there's not 1 stand out person at the job. Neville and Carragher commentating on Man Utd/Liverpool games shouldn't be allowed as they cannot behave themselves. Imagine the opposition fan listening to that, whilst getting beat, and they hear one of those cunts scream "GET IN!!!!", will never feel good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) A lot of the time it is like watching on opposition fan TV. Just all about how great the opposition are, how they’ll be feeling, what they’ll be trying to do. And oh, Newcastle are also playing. I think that’s half the reason people on here always think the opposition were much better than they were. Edited January 18 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokerprince2004 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 38 minutes ago, Cornah said: Probably biased but recall king Kev being canny alongside his old pal Brian Moore. Then again he could present the Antiques Roadshow and I would knock one out.. Great shout, remember them both doing the England v Argentina game at France 98. Fucking miles better than the utter dirge on sky these days. Got incredibly pissed off when Neville started screaming when Mbuemo scored yesterday and I wasn't bothered about who won either. Had Carragher doing it at nearly every Liverpool game too. Just not good enough for a channel that should be impartial Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) 11 minutes ago, TopL0ader said: A differing view, I couldn't give a.... Sit there watching the football and chatting to my boy throughout so I couldn't give a damn who's commentating. Prefer listening to McCoist but what pleases me pisses someone else off, and vice versa. Today's society wanting everything their own way and needing others to see everything through their eyes. Chill watch the footy, have a beer and a chat whilst doing so rather than stressing over what a third-party is saying or not saying If someone thinks something is shite, it’s fine to say it’s shite and explain why they think it’s shite. And substandard commentary with highly bias co-comms is definitely shite. If everybody ignored everything they considered unacceptable and just got on with their lives sucking up the shite being dished out, then the Nazi’s would have taken over the world. Edited January 18 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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