Coffee_Johnny Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 1 hour ago, samptime29 said: We played quite well 2nd half but again same old story with late goals. I think it was a small margins thing yesterday, we were on top and more fluent in possession that we have tended to be this season, and for long periods, but just couldn’t finish. Osula has definitely developed (through necessity), which is great to see, but he isn’t yet a top six striker. Plus Bruno has many positive qualities as does Joelinton but they’re not finishers. We need a striker and another attacking midfielder who can finish, provides that extra little bit of quality. We would have been out of sight yesterday and in other games we have been pegged back if we had that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 22 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Quite surprised people saying CB is weak. I think Thiaw and Botman is a really good partnership and certainly good enough for a decent PL campaign if the rest of the team is functioning. They’re both decent on the ball as well, just not sure they always have someone ahead of them to reliably pass it to. We have conceded too many goals this season not to question the back 5 who on paper should be better than we have seen. We have 4 England internationals a German one and botman who without the injury would have likely been called up by now. The system, the tracking back the asking older players to push up and make recovery runs when it fails isn't helping either but it's how the manager likes to play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 I agree but I still think Botman and Thiaw is a good partnership. Defending is more about the whole team and the whole defensive unit, as well as not being able to retain the ball reliably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 I agree, but Botman is weirdly slow at the moment. Quite a few goals we've conceded now stemming from it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 3 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said: I think it was a small margins thing yesterday, we were on top and more fluent in possession that we have tended to be this season, and for long periods, but just couldn’t finish. Osula has definitely developed (through necessity), which is great to see, but he isn’t yet a top six striker. Plus Bruno has many positive qualities as does Joelinton but they’re not finishers. We need a striker and another attacking midfielder who can finish, provides that extra little bit of quality. We would have been out of sight yesterday and in other games we have been pegged back if we had that. Bruno's shooting annoys me so much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 Feels like he is completely bereft of good ideas now and it’s all run its course. He just doesn’t have a clue how to use the technical players and his runners have run out of steam. In desperation, he’s now resorting to playing several key players out of position mainly just for the crack (and not due to injuries). Which just never works as all know from the previous era. A great man and a great manager but he’s hit a ceiling with this project and probably best we all move onto pastures new for the sake of the club and Howe’s career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 1 minute ago, Jesse Pinkman said: Feels like he is completely bereft of good ideas now and it’s all run its course. He just doesn’t have a clue how to use the technical players and his runners have run out of steam. In desperation, he’s now resorting to playing several key players out of position mainly just for the crack (and not due to injuries). Which just never works as all know from the previous era. A great man and a great manager but he’s hit a ceiling with this project and probably best we all move onto pastures new for the sake of the club and Howe’s career. Were you one of the 'never tries anything new' people at all? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 (edited) 4 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Were you one of the 'never tries anything new' people at all? Were you one of those ‘he just needs time on the training pitch and the wins will flow again’? He certainly tried something new this weekend (after the board likely gave him a bollocking last week - see Woltemade in the starting line up) but his new ideas aren’t great. This doesn’t bode well for next season unfortunately. Edited May 11 by Jesse Pinkman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 2 minutes ago, Jesse Pinkman said: Were you one of those ‘he just needs time on the training pitch and the wins will flow again’? He certainly tried something new this weekend (after the board likely gave him a bollocking last week - see Woltemade in the starting line up) but his new ideas aren’t great. This doesn’t bode well for next season unfortunately. No not really, I didn't expect a turnaround until the summer. Some better results hopefully, which is kind of what has happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 11 minutes ago, Jesse Pinkman said: Feels like he is completely bereft of good ideas now and it’s all run its course. He just doesn’t have a clue how to use the technical players and his runners have run out of steam. In desperation, he’s now resorting to playing several key players out of position mainly just for the crack (and not due to injuries). Which just never works as all know from the previous era. A great man and a great manager but he’s hit a ceiling with this project and probably best we all move onto pastures new for the sake of the club and Howe’s career. Apart from Trippier, Schar, Thiaw, Botman, Hall, Bruno and Isak, who've all been used to good effect under Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stal Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 I have a question. I was watching this match in a bar (so no sound on) and I was quite a distance from the screen so that I couldn't read names. Who was the Forest player who had the black pompadour, reminiscent of Butthead from the 90's cartoon Beavis and Butthead? Whilst I know our players, the ashley years dissolved my love of football so I literally know very few players from other teams these days. Getting better though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 9 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Apart from Trippier, Schar, Thiaw, Botman, Hall, Bruno and Isak, who've all been used to good effect under Howe. Other than Isak and Hall none of them are technical players… Hall is currently dropped from his preferred position for Big Dan Burn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 4 minutes ago, Jesse Pinkman said: Other than Isak and Hall none of them are technical players… Hall is currently dropped from his preferred position for Big Dan Burn. How would you define a technical player? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 On 06/05/2026 at 08:18, SteV said: We’ve played 35 league games and lost four of them by more than one goal. Whilst I would agree that many of the performances have been unconvincing, the fact remains we’re competitive in almost every game. Granted, that should really be the bare minimum, but it’s clearly not as catastrophically poor as some like to make out. The two major issues which have blighted our season have been: a) an inability to capitalise on taking the lead with further goals, especially at home (which we’ve previously been very good at) b) where that’s not been possible, an ability to manage / see games out in the latter stages No doubt there’ll be other factors causing these two issues (central striker problems being an obvious one) but they are the two massive things to fix IMO. Easier said than done obviously, but do so, and we’re back up where we want to be again. Excuse the self-quote, but yesterday was the perfect example of the points in bold. Not really making any great revelations to anyone, but they really are the overriding factors, that if solved, will have us punching well into the European places again. It’s pretty evident that it’s probably going to take some personnel additions/changes to solve them, which the manager seems well aware of. He (rightfully IMO) will be allowed to make those changes, but if they don’t appear to be working in the first half of next season, I think everyone, including him, know the consequences. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jemo96 Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 2 hours ago, Stal said: I have a question. I was watching this match in a bar (so no sound on) and I was quite a distance from the screen so that I couldn't read names. Who was the Forest player who had the black pompadour, reminiscent of Butthead from the 90's cartoon Beavis and Butthead? Whilst I know our players, the ashley years dissolved my love of football so I literally know very few players from other teams these days. Getting better though. Probably Igor Jesus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stal Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 34 minutes ago, jemo96 said: Probably Igor Jesus Just googled him and yes, that's him! Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 3 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I agree but I still think Botman and Thiaw is a good partnership. Defending is more about the whole team and the whole defensive unit, as well as not being able to retain the ball reliably. Look at the stats with Schar vs Thiaw. I think Botman and Thiaw could keep any striker quiet for 80 minutes, but up against it in the last 10 I expect them to concede. That comes from leadership if we had Emi Martinez instead of Pope that would help we need some leadership. If we bring in Trafford we will still need a commander at the back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 1 hour ago, Smal said: I've seen a couple of his videos recently, his tactical breakdowns are not bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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