Nobody Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 2 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: 2/10. We didn’t go down, so not a 1/10 What would you have given it if we finished 16th, didn't get out of the champions league group stage and made it to a semi final? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Just now, Nobody said: What would you have given it if we finished 16th, didn't get out of the champions league group stage and made it to a semi final? Still 2/10 Honestly, finishing bottom half and those two shocking derby ‘performances’ (which were basically the same as our performances against any half decent side) would automatically score a 2/10 irrespective of cup runs - only winning a cup would change that. 97/98 was also a 2/10 season despite beating Barca in the CL and reaching the cup final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 7 minutes ago, Nobody said: What? It's been a fucking god awful season all things considered man Long throws, awful shithousery, Arsenal winning the league by scoring from corners, VAR fuck ups. It's been fucking horrendous, the worst season in a long time, even ignoring the Newcastle part of it. Two best mates are Tottenham and Liverpool fans it’s been fun Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dava1892 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Solid 4 from me, had the great games as usual at SJP, competed well in CL with good wins and progression throughout the group. Dropped far to many points from winning positions, players I believe don’t know where they were playing and certainly not giving their all. Keep Eddie, give him another window to get this right. We will know at the beginning of the season if we are ready to go. There’s room for a lot of the right players to move on and recruitment which surely can’t be as bad as the last summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 1 minute ago, Dava1892 said: There’s room for a lot of the right players to move on and recruitment which surely can’t be as bad as the last summer. There’s no guarantee of that tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dava1892 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Just now, TheBrownBottle said: There’s no guarantee of that tbf Unfortunately there’s not, but more than willing to give him another shot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Season was over after the Derby home defeat. I think I said that on here right after that game. Killed the entire year. We could’ve easily recovered from the Barca battering if we’d swatted them tramps back into their boxes and recovered our momentum. We didn’t, all hope died that day and everyone checked out if we’re honest. Fans. Players. Coaches. Done. I think Howe can count himself lucky to be in the job after last summers transfer business and the subsequent performance this year. I hope the faith shown in him is warranted and he can fix the major issues in this squad. He’ll almost certainly be uncomfortable with the sheer volume of trading necessary but he’ll need to be prepared to oversee huge surgery this summer or he’ll be gone by November and he’ll be able to have no complaints. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 What this season has shown is that the overall standard of even moderate teams in the Premiership has gone up. Clubs like Fulham and Brentford can compete with the major overseas clubs for talented players. Unless you have quality in depth within your squad, you are going to struggle in the PL with all the extra fixtures that European football entails. It's not just we that have suffered. The teams just above the relegation zone - Spurs, Forest and Palace - were all playing in Europe. Palace are in a final, and Forest got to a semi. We were in danger until the Brighton win. I think a similar factor has also contributed to Liverpool and Chelsea's underachievement, and Man U have benefitted from being out of Europe. Arsenal and Man City have only been able to handle the situation by effectively having two first teams rather than a first team and a back-up. So I think the lesson is that the Premier League has to be given some priority, and that in order to move on to the next phase we need to build up a squad of quality. That will mean continuing to develop our young talent, and being patient because it may well look like we're marking time. I do think that those who want Eddie out are missing the big picture. Let's bear in mind that, in addition to the European fixtures (which included a two-leg play-off), we had cup runs to a Fifth Round and a two-leg Semi-Final. Overall, I don't think Eddie has taken us as far as he can. No way. The guy is top class. However, this team has peaked and we need to rebuild. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 (edited) I think anyone posting either side of 3-6 is somewhat unjustified tbh. Edited May 25 by Heron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Went for 4. There were some bright spots in there. The relentlessness of it all eventually caught up with us on top of what now looks like a poor summer (may factors both internal and external). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Gave it a 1. Relegation was never a realistic fear but the entire league campaign was an absolute waste of time. I suppose I could give it a 2 since we qualified from the CL, but fuck that. This season ended in July. Usually at the end of a season there's something to build upon, a reason to welcome the rest and revitalization of the squad. This season ending is a fucking mercy, and we've got so many problems in our squad I honestly think next season will be equally a complete waste of time. I bear Howe no specific antipathy but a campaign this bad does not engender anticipation either. The big question looming over us is will he learn? Can he adapt? Or will we do this one more time, out of appreciation for a cup victory and because he's a nice lad? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 (edited) 15 hours ago, Nobody said: What would you have given it if we finished 16th, didn't get out of the champions league group stage and made it to a semi final? Not getting out of that CL group stage, given the opposition and required points tally (top 24), would have been absolutely scandalous. Whether you could expect us to get past the next stage highly depended on who we faced. Most PL clubs would get past Qarabag on a normal day. The biggest achievements were holding PSG and Barca to a draw. The same goes for the cup really, we beat Bradford, Fulham and Spurs. Winning 3 rounds isn't bad, but once we face a team like Man City, we didn't stand a chance. This is why I didn't give the season more than a 3/10, because I don't think that we did anything special to outweigh the poor league performances. Edited May 25 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 I think a 4 is about fair. Some decent performances, a lot that weren't. A good run in the CL and cups, but the league determines everything, really, and I've never really known how or if we'll turn up. I'm struggling to think how you'd describe our style of play to an outsider and never want to go through another summer like the last. So, 4 might be generous. But I think of it as a nothing season really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJbarnes Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Whilst the season was clearly a disappointment overall, I think some need to gain some perspective. We had a pretty positive campaign in the CL, matching Barcelona over 3 of the 4 halfs of the 2 leg tie and doing very well in the group stage. I didn't expect anything other than a loss over 2 legs. We lost to Man city in the semi final of the CC and again in the 5th round. No upsets, we were beaten by far stronger teams. The disappointment clearly comes from performances in a league campaign where we failed to inspire, lacked an obvious identity, conceded too many late goals, and never really looked like seriously mounting a charge for a CL spot. It was very competitive in the middle of the table and ultimately despite how poor we appeared overall, we were only 5 points off a Europa league spot. I'm giving it 5/10 overall given the CL results. This has been a tough season on and off for me. Mistakes made from start to finish from the Isak fiasco to the backroom staff. Then we've never really looked like the new players have got going. Given where we were a few years ago, and how fast our rise to the CL twice has been with Howe, this year feels like a huge set back but I think we should be accepting a few setbacks. I find it difficult to apportion blame between players, Howe and the ownership. The key now will to be to ensure we have a coherent transfer strategy, a good overhaul and we should expect a team next season to be qualifying for the Europa as a minimum and giving both the cups a good go. Seriously hoping to see Howe take us forward and is backed in the summer. But he will know he needs to get up and running fast next season and this league campaign needs to be a blip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 (edited) 5 points off Europa League is a bit of a moot point, and rather just highlights the missed opportunity in a season where reaching Europa League required so much less than in earlier seasons. In the 23/24 season we finished 11 points higher than this one, and we didn't even get Conference League. Last season 7th got 65 points. This season Sunderland got Europa League with 54. That's probably a new record. Edited May 25 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Exhausting, glad it's over. Disappointing league campaign. Decent enough cup campaigns. 5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 This season has been a chore. I’m glad it’s over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Way too many games for such a poor side. Not looking forward to next season either atm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 I think most teams in the premier league would’ve matched our CL performance. You would have to shit the bed not to get into the playoff, and then we got a team that would come 20th in the premier league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 I’d give it a 4 assessing the performances on the pitch. A generous 2 if you include the business preceding it. I would have accepted everything, including the derby defeats as bad as they were, with a strong run-in. The last 6 weeks were the worst and most disappointing part of the season IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 3, maximum 4. A few highs but outweighed by letdowns and several humiliations. Quality of football was poor overall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 3, maximum 4. A few highs but outweighed by letdowns and several humiliations. Quality of football was poor overall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 3 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: I’d give it a 4 assessing the performances on the pitch. A generous 2 if you include the business preceding it. I would have accepted everything, including the derby defeats as bad as they were, with a strong run-in. The last 6 weeks were the worst and most disappointing part of the season IMO. Last 6 weeks were a real killer and I was expecting some optimism. Even if we didn’t get Europe a strong performance would have given some optimism going into next year and we just didn’t bother. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 1 minute ago, TRC said: Last 6 weeks were a real killer and I was expecting some optimism. Even if we didn’t get Europe a strong performance would have given some optimism going into next year and we just didn’t bother. And, as it turns out, we could have walked into Europe. The only positive I can muster is the wheels coming off may end up being better for igniting change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 The January window was the killer for me. We were in need of a couple of players and the European places were wide open. Nothing got done and the CEO called it exceptional. In the end we got exactly what we deserved. I’ve no idea what to expect from the summer window, hopefully something better than exceptional. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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