Kid Icarus Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) 10 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: It’s the ‘existing stadium is key’ bit that I don’t get. SJP isn’t anything like what it was even 25 years ago. It’s not the same ground. Why are the current stands suddenly important? Parts of it are the same ground that have been there since before my lifetime. My preference would be that it remains where it is. If a new stadium is built around the current pitch, or it ends up completely different like the Ship of Theusus/Trigger's broom then sobeit. Edited April 19 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 2 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: Well well well To me, that's simply because those fans haven't seen any viewable plan for an alternative stadium nearby to the SJP site. They are basically afraid of the unknown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 On the flip side I bet most non season ticket holders want to move so they can get tickets Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 8 minutes ago, Wandy said: To me, that's simply because those fans haven't seen any viewable plan for an alternative stadium nearby to the SJP site. They are basically afraid of the unknown. All of them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 minute ago, Slim said: On the flip side I bet most non season ticket holders want to move so they can get tickets You don't need to be a season ticket holder to be an NU Trust member. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Slim said: On the flip side I bet most non season ticket holders want to move so they can get tickets Probably a fair few. I feel like plenty more people want us to move only because they think we'll then be able to spend as much money as we want with no further questions asked. So much upheaval and disruption to try to meet the conditions of a discredited and almost universally despised financial test which is already limping heavily and imo almost certain to be bulleted in its current form before the first paying fan enters our new arena Edited April 19 by OpenC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 That video is incredible (in the Douglas article) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) Edited April 19 by PauloGeordio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Not read the story but going off the thumbnail 60K is nowhere near enough. Ticket prices will get silly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 2 minutes ago, LFEE said: Not read the story but going off the thumbnail 60K is nowhere near enough. Ticket prices will get silly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 2 minutes ago, LFEE said: Not read the story but going off the thumbnail 60K is nowhere near enough. Ticket prices will get silly. “As a minimum Newcastle are likely to want to push the capacity above the 60,000 mark while also updating the stadium’s dated facilities, making it a viable venue for regular revenue-generating events like concerts and even bringing NFL games to the North-East” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 2 minutes ago, LFEE said: Not read the story but going off the thumbnail 60K is nowhere near enough. Ticket prices will get silly. The article is just everything that’s been discussed on here. Let’s see in a couple of weeks when the study is released. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 minute ago, r0cafella said: The article is just everything that’s been discussed on here. Let’s see in a couple of weeks when the study is released. Tbf I thought there was a lot in there that was new, either because I've missed it or because it's new. I hadn't read the stuff about the different architects saying what might and might not be possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Just now, Kid Icarus said: Tbf I thought there was a lot in there that was new, either because I've missed it or because it's new. I hadn't read the stuff about the different architects saying what might and might not be possible. Oh, I’ve read all those quotes from those firms before, on here as well I’m sure. I commented not long ago that populous keep pitching for the job That being said, fair play I’m glad you found it worthwhile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 15 hours ago, huss9 said: this is probably the wrong thread for this but ive never worked out exactly where john dobson's royal arcade actually stood. it was stunning. Theres tons of photos and discussion of this here https://www.facebook.com/groups/1419185591724276/ including loads of other buildings and whole areas that have been lost over the years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 hour ago, Kid Icarus said: All of them? Most of them, IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomYam Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Somewhat simplistically but, based on Option D: a trailblazing 70,000 stadium in Castle Leazes: Pros: - improved comfort, acoustics, facilities - much greater scope for fans - especially youngsters - to attend matches - new revenue streams increases economic performance of both club and city - harmonious design a boon to the cityscape, expansion of parkland Cons: - not our spiritual home So imo there are emotional reasons for wanting to stay put and nothing more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Anyone else just happy with anything? As long as things are improving, I'm happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Just as likely as the all those options is nothing much happening at all. Wouldn't be surprised if they decide just spruce up what we have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Honestly, I would happilly take any of those options in the video. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 4 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: It’s the ‘existing stadium is key’ bit that I don’t get. SJP isn’t anything like what it was even 25 years ago. It’s not the same ground. Why are the current stands suddenly important? This is an important point. Be it moving the stadium south a bit so we get more of the Strawberry land in, or it going to Castle Leazes, I do think we need a rebuild. The East stand alone is about 50 years old, and will be reaching the end of its life span soon in anyway, that is without acknowledging that it’s not fit for purpose anymore. We might not be on the same front print, maybe a couple of hundred yards up the road, but spiritually we are still there. Your pre/post match pub will still be the same. You will still have the same route to the ground. It will still be in city centre, although we might be directly above the Metro station, or further up through the fancy gates via Leazes Park. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checko Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 I've said before, as long as it's made of sandstone and has a giant statue of Alan Shearer teabagging Niall Quinn out the front I'm happy. And a moat. If we budge it so there's a bit more room it should also have a moat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootShoot Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 5 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: It’s the ‘existing stadium is key’ bit that I don’t get. SJP isn’t anything like what it was even 25 years ago. It’s not the same ground. Why are the current stands suddenly important? Yep SJP is currently late stage Triggers Broom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 10 minutes ago, ShootShoot said: Yep SJP is currently late stage Triggers Broom I dont think it is mate, ive been going for years with my grandad, old man brother, my mates and their dads, walking the same route and sitting in the same locations since the early 80s. Whilst I am on side with a slight move in t he city to gain more sets and space, its still a tough emotional pull to walk away from the current SJP, especially since some of the people i went to the match with are no longer here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootShoot Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 minute ago, NG32 said: I dont think it is mate, ive been going for years with my grandad, old man brother, my mates and their dads, walking the same route and sitting in the same locations since the early 80s. Whilst I am on side with a slight move in t he city to gain more sets and space, its still a tough emotional pull to walk away from the current SJP, especially since some of the people i went to the match with are no longer here. Castle Leazes is within spitting distance . Im sure the ghosts of SJP past will have no problem adjusting and neither should we Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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