St James' Park

[FloydianMag]

14 minutes ago, Heron said:

 

4 × English Champions

6 × FA Cup Winners

1 × Fairs Cup Winners

1 × Charity Shield Winners 

I wonder what percentage of the fan base can remember any of that, loads weren’t even born in 1969 our last trophy.

[TomYam]

26 minutes ago, Heron said:

 

4 × English Champions

6 × FA Cup Winners

1 × Fairs Cup Winners

1 × Charity Shield Winners 

There are 3 domestic trophies that matter. We have won 10 - a considerable number. Or at least it was 50+ years ago. We won those trophies in the first 51 years of becoming FL members. In the subsequent 69 years we have won zilch.

We all have a powerful emotional attachment to St James's Park, but describing the land as hallowed is for the magpies and other birds. It's been more hollowed than hallowed since 1955. 

[STM]

What matters to me more is the design. Do something unique and completely different. 

[cubaricho]

2 minutes ago, STM said:

What matters to me more is the design. Do something unique and completely different. 

(on Leazes)

 

 

Edited September 4, 2024 by cubaricho

[Wallsendmag]

42 minutes ago, FloydianMag said:

I wonder what percentage of the fan base can remember any of that, loads weren’t even born in 1969 our last trophy.

 

Anyone under the age of 65 is struggling to remember the last time we won a trophy.

[Miggys First Goal]

Maybe an unpopular and controversial opinion, but I don’t even think SJP is nice to look at. 

[FloydianMag]

10 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

Anyone under the age of 65 is struggling to remember the last time we won a trophy.

Exactly!

[Heron]

It's still got history irrespective of when it was. I honestly don't see the clamour for a new stadium personally. Okay, it might be modern with all the mod cons fans seemingly now want but it's not for me like. Increasing attendance matters to the financials not to the atmosphere. I'd rather play in front of 20k with a raucous atmosphere than 80k in silence.

[Yorkie]

18 minutes ago, STM said:

What matters to me more is the design. Do something unique and completely different. 

 

In fairness to Everton (🤢), their new stadium is pretty cool.

[Wilson]

I really don't want us to move like. 

[Chris L]

I’d only be comfortable moving to leazes park or whatever that bit above is called, castle leazes? 
 

anywhere out of the city would be a terrible move 

[BoSelecta]

3 minutes ago, Heron said:

It's still got history irrespective of when it was. I honestly don't see the clamour for a new stadium personally. Okay, it might be modern with all the mod cons fans seemingly now want but it's not for me like. Increasing attendance matters to the financials not to the atmosphere. I'd rather play in front of 20k with a raucous atmosphere than 80k in silence.

Agree completely - the atmosphere has to be central to any new stadium design. A massive safe standing area behind the goal would be a start; roof on and acoustically designed stands. SJP is pretty shite for acoustics unless you’re at the back of the gallowgate.

[Turnbull2000]

2 minutes ago, Chris L said:

I’d only be comfortable moving to leazes park or whatever that bit above is called, castle leazes? 
 

anywhere out of the city would be a terrible move 

 

edit: thought you were referring to land just beyond that empty patch!

 

Can't see the council entertaining the loss of that open land or Leazes Park. Think a new ground will have to be out of town - even then there'll be massive pushback from planners and locals I would think.

 

 

Edited September 4, 2024 by Turnbull2000

[Harry 209]

this has become the new Marc Guehi thread for me - refreshing the page hoping to see an announcement, looking for an embedded tweet. Will the fanbase go into meltdown again if there's no news once international break is over?

[Myleftboot]

1 hour ago, PauloGeordio said:

That turf would in time become hallowed.

Don’t they change the turf every season anyway.🤔

[Stifler]

13 minutes ago, cubaricho said:

This feels like a myth to me, and gets peddled around here quite frequently as a reason to not build a new stadium. 
 

The Saudis aren’t going to build a flat back, that’s for sure.

Aye, Spurs’ has a bar in it. I don’t mean a kiosk where you can order and then stand in front of a TV, like actually go into an area and sit at tables and chairs. Not just for corporate either.

[Groundhog63]

2 minutes ago, Myleftboot said:

Don’t they change the turf every season anyway.🤔

Trigger's broom

[Stifler]

16 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

In fairness to Everton (🤢), their new stadium is pretty cool.

The external design is nice, but internally it just looks bland.

[Dr Venkman]

1 hour ago, Heron said:

It just won't be better in every metric though will it. St James' is home.

It will be better by every metric other than how you feel about it, which is the point, I guess?

 

 

Edited September 4, 2024 by Dr Venkman

[Superior Acuña]

I’ve come around to the idea of a new city stadium if it’s the only way to get me / other locked out back in. But I do think it’ll be worse than SJP cos I’ve never been to a new stadium that I’ve not thought is lacking in character of its predecessor. I suppose I’m just very conservative on this. In 50 years these might have a kind of character. I’ve not been to Tottenham’s new one though.  
 

Ultimately I need to be inside though. 

 

 

Edited September 4, 2024 by Superior Acuña

[PauloGeordio]

1 hour ago, Myleftboot said:

Don’t they change the turf every season anyway.🤔

Yes 

[Heron]

2 hours ago, Dr Venkman said:

It will be better by every metric other than how you feel about it, which is the point, I guess?

 

 

 

It won't have history. That's a pretty important metric. I know I'm being a pedantic arsehole by the way

 

It wont have this level of locality to the city centre.

 

It will have increased capacity and all the things a football stadium doesn't really need. If they're important metrics then so be it.

 

I'll be honest, I simply won't be talked into it.

 

The irony of all this is that FFP and PSR is designed to protect community assets such as football clubs to my knowledge, and yet here it is taking NUFC down a totally different track, away from it's historic home to make a quick buck so we can hopefully keep pace with the Jones'.

 

 

Edited September 4, 2024 by Heron

[Danh1]

4 hours ago, Heron said:

It honestly does nowt for me. We'll have another bowl shaped stadium that is void of any character and will look like a shopping centre and we'll be charged extortionate prices and it'll be largely corporate and geared towards new fans.

 

I get it's the route we'll likely have to take, but it's wank.

 

 

 

Well said.

 

I don’t get the clamour for it. People getting a hard on over new walls and shiny floors. “We need it to compete” do we fucking bollocks man. Do what it takes to enhance the size of SJP. Our home for 130 odd years. People want to rip that up for the sake of a shiny new modern bowl.

 

Fuck the NFL and that tatie off True Faith who was buzzing about it inal. 

[Dr.Spaceman]

I'd be against it if football was the same as it was in the 90's, but it's not. It feels so far removed from the game I grew up with. SJP needs to move with the times.

 

I just want to be able to go for a piss at HT without having the radge squeeze, or grab a pint before KO without worrying about queuing for 20 minutes. Things don't have to be the way they are.

[Heron]

2 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

I'd be against it if football was the same as it was in the 90's, but it's not. It feels so far removed from the game I grew up with. SJP needs to move with the times.

 

I just want to be able to go for a piss at HT without having the radge squeeze, or grab a pint before KO without worrying about queuing for 20 minutes. Things don't have to be the way they are.

I think they could invest in SJP and make it a lot better though, I don't see the need to move other than to get more bodies in.