St James' Park

[r0cafella]

Fingers crossed the plan is for a new stadium it's literally the only option that makes any sense. 

[Decky]

Going to be fucking heartbreaking watching the bulldozers move into SJP even though a new stadium would be my choice too. 

[mighty__mag]

In order to evolve we will have to settle for tough decisions, generations will have felt similar in times gone by, the future of this club is huge, and can be grown into something remarkable.

 

You'd like to think if the Saudis are behind a new stadium design it's going to be on a different level, lots of their architecture/structures are magnificent.

 

I'd like to think somehow the current SJP could be developed into something connecting, or used as the womens stadium?

 

No idea, just be gutted to see it flattened. 

 

 

Edited 9 hours ago by mighty__mag

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8 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Fingers crossed the plan is for a new stadium it's literally the only option that makes any sense. 

It definitely is the plan. Tonight looked pretty clearly about seeking permission to go for it. They're obviously nervous about the reaction so they're doing their best to make it go well.

 

It's good that they're nervous, mind - we should be doing all we can to use that and make sure the result is top class in every way.

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, 80 said:

It definitely is the plan. Tonight looked pretty clearly about seeking permission to go for it. They're obviously nervous about the reaction so they're doing their best to make it go well.

 

It's good that they're nervous, mind - we should be doing all we can to use that and make sure the result is top class in every way.

Absolutely it has to beat in the world and without compromise as they have stated that's what the ambition is. 

 

I'm hoping this is precisely what they do and it's a starting point to transforming the region. 

[Superior Acuña]

I think Soldier Field has some character. Not as much as Wrigley though. 

[OverThere]

I wonder if the club will make extra dough by selling off bits of SJP, like a seat or a piece of concrete?

 

 

Edited 7 hours ago by OverThere

[Sima]

5 minutes ago, OverThere said:

I wonder if the club will make extra dough by selling off bits of SJP, like a seat or a piece of concrete?

 

 

 

Do they still have the NEWCASTLE UNITED in the SD font?

 

PM with deets if so.

[timeEd32]

1 hour ago, Superior Acuña said:

I think Soldier Field has some character. Not as much as Wrigley though. 

One of the best IMO with a great setting. 

[Whitley mag]

Seattle, not sure what it changed its name to but always seemed a good atmosphere in the heart of the city.

 

No brainer for a new stadium said it from the start you can’t have a best in class facility with the East Stand restrictions, even then the Milburn and Leazes are so badly designed and not fit for purpose anymore.

 

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Whitley mag

[BoSelecta]

Just please incorporate a massive safe standing section behind one end. And design the acoustics right; everything else should be secondary to the atmosphere which directly impacts the team on the pitch. 

[RS]

Somewhere like shiremoor would be agood place for the new stadium. Just off A19.  Has its own metro station. Plenty of land nearby for parking. 

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by RS

[KetsbaiaIsBald]

Copied from nufc.com

 

Quote

"It is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. Do we invest and transform St James’ as we see it today on the site where we are? Or do we take that bold move and think about moving?

"We want to make sure it is a very robust process. So regardless of the outcome, I want to stand up in front of everybody throughout the process and say, ‘This is why it is a logical decision, with long-term competitiveness in mind.’ 

"Because as you have heard a lot, it is all about revenue and PSR. We have to work hard to make sure we give as much money as possible to Paul (Mitchell) and the football side in order to remain competitive on the field.

"In terms of next steps, we are coming towards the end of the next stage, the briefing stage. There are a lot of risks and opportunities at St James’. 

"We have to take time to dig into those and make sure we’ve got the devil in the detail — in terms of the programme, how long it will take and what it will do for us in terms of revenue.

"We have also taken the opportunity to look at what will a new stadium look like. It’s not comparing apples with apples, they are not like for like. It’s comparing apples with pears.

"The brilliant thing about St James’ is it is in an iconic location, the atmosphere and the competitive edge it gives the team on the pitch, and it has 52,000 seats already.

"But a new stadium doesn’t have that and we’d have to pay for all those seats again. A new stadium has the potential to earn a lot more, both on matchdays and non-matchdays, a bit like STACK. 

"It is giving us an indication that we can actually contribute even more to the football club and football side if we had a new stadium.

"The first choice is if we stayed at St James' we have the 52,000 seats already. It comes with significantly more money if we transform it and it will look amazing. That's option one.

"Option two is if we were to move away, and not too far away as we aren't going to stretch the elastic band to the point of breaking. 

"The second option we are looking at seriously as it does have the potential to earn more than twice as much in terms of revenue, compared to a transformation of St James' Park. And more seats, a lot more seats potentially."

 

 

 

[Heron]

Moving stadium is minging unless it literally backs onto the existing one. That is all.

[Stifler]

Yeah, the lot more seats bit give you an indication on capacity. Let’s assume a SJP renovation gives us the minimum of a 60k capacity. A lot more seats really does look like we would be aiming for at least an 80k capacity stadium.

[r0cafella]

Just now, Heron said:

Moving stadium is minging unless it literally backs onto the existing one. That is all.

Fair enough everyone is entitled to their opinion. 

[Stifler]

2 minutes ago, Heron said:

Moving stadium is minging unless it literally backs onto the existing one. That is all.

I really think we are talking Castle Leazes, with a little encroachment on Leazes Park here.

 

If it wasn’t for the fact that Dolly would now be outside the SOL gaining signatures against it, then I think they would have told us last night that this is where it’s going to be. Right now though they need to be crossing the T’s, and dotting the I’s and make sure everyone, even politically the will to do it.

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Stifler

[KetsbaiaIsBald]

 

1 minute ago, Stifler said:

I really think we are talking Castle Leazes, with a little encroachment on Leazes Park here.

 

I was thinking the same.  But this sentence has me thinking it could be a little further:

 

8 minutes ago, KetsbaiaIsBald said:

we aren't going to stretch the elastic band to the point of breaking. 

 

I’d see leaves park as hardly even putting tension into the band.  

 

[Stifler]

1 minute ago, KetsbaiaIsBald said:

I was thinking the same.  But this sentence has me thinking it could be a little further:

 

 

I’d see Leazes Park as hardly even putting tension into the band.  

 

The way they actually said it though made it seem like it was close, very close, I think outside of those quotations, they actually said that as well. They certainly gave the impression that it was.

The written word doesn’t have the same delivery as the spoken word.

[r0cafella]

Just now, Stifler said:

The way they actually said it though made it seem like it was close, very close, I think outside of those quotations, they actually said that as well. They certainly gave the impression that it was.

The written word doesn’t have the same delivery as the spoken word.

If we take them at their word they haven't even decided what to do yet nevermind where an new ground will be. 

 

A lot of hurdles and obstacles to clear before we are that far along. 

[Keegans Export]

If that stat about earning more than twice as much in terms of revenue is correct, the decision has been made already. By the latest accounts that's an extra £40m+. 

 

The question now is where and really Leazes area is the only option isn't it? I'm assuming most people voting for a new stadium are assuming it's either there or somewhere else close by so if they go outside the city there's going to be considerable backlash.

[KetsbaiaIsBald]

1 minute ago, Stifler said:

The way they actually said it though made it seem like it was close, very close, I think outside of those quotations, they actually said that as well. They certainly gave the impression that it was.

The written word doesn’t have the same delivery as the spoken word.

 

I hope so.

 

Given time does not seem a huge priority the next step could be we’ve decided new stadium and are going for Leases park.  Then they start working with the council.  Plans can be drawn up for the actual stadium that will no doubt look fantastic. This gets people minds softened on moving.  If Leases park cannot be done they look slightly further.  That way the club are not the bad guys the council is.  Fans will have fallen in love with the idea and stadium so what’s an extra 10/15 minute walk…

[Magpie]

Why not Hunters Moor? Part of Town Moor but other side of the A167. And as Nuns Moor (North) has the Newcastle United Golf club on it, the Freemen may be open to selling/allowing a new stadium to be built on it. 
 

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, Magpie said:

Why not Hunters Moor? Part of Town Moor but other side of the A167. And as Nuns Moor (North) has the Newcastle United Golf club on it, the Freemen may be open to selling/allowing a new stadium to be built on it. 
 

For most of here they will say it's too far. 

[Magpie]

6 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

For most of here they will say it's too far. 

I just can't see it being Castle Leazes/Leazes Park so for me that's the next best option. Mile and a half outside of the city centre.