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25 minutes ago, Stifler said:

Ah mate, I’m not taking anything personally. I’ve just seen him spout quite a bit about the new stadium, non of which has either lined up with what has been reported or sometimes he just repeats what’s been reported as his own. As we all know, we have heard ITK’s about every subject of NUFC and it’s a bit tiresome really.

 

I just don’t think that if these cables exist, they will be a massive obstacle, and I find it hard to believe that such important cables like these would not have been mapped and known about, especially as it seems to go under the Leazes end which would have had mean they were either installed or at least known about when level 7 was added.

I also find it annoying and attention seeking that he made the first post which is cryptic last night, and didn’t post the added context to it until this morning.

Ironically I think you’d both get on very well :lol:

 

He’s just a big fan wanting the best for NUFC with plenty of his own ideas regarding stadium 🏟️ 

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2 hours ago, Stifler said:

Ah mate, I’m not taking anything personally. I’ve just seen him spout quite a bit about the new stadium, non of which has either lined up with what has been reported or sometimes he just repeats what’s been reported as his own. As we all know, we have heard ITK’s about every subject of NUFC and it’s a bit tiresome really.

 

I just don’t think that if these cables exist, they will be a massive obstacle, and I find it hard to believe that such important cables like these would not have been mapped and known about, especially as it seems to go under the Leazes end which would have had mean they were either installed or at least known about when level 7 was added.

I also find it annoying and attention seeking that he made the first post which is cryptic last night, and didn’t post the added context to it until this morning.

Utility diversions are very normal on major infrastructure projects, additional costs and time for sure, but shouldn't be a major impediment. 

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On 24/01/2026 at 22:34, LFEE said:


He didn’t say it was a massive barrier just highlighted an issue which is a tricky one. Even trickier also when they supply the main hospital. Something else that needs to coordinated carefully.

It’s not tricky at all.

 

Cards on table - I’ve worked on multiple billion-pound construction and infrastructure projects in a position of seniority.  HV cables being re-routed are encountered on pretty much any major project.  Anyone talking about them being a roadblock is exposing themselves as knowing fuck all about the subject, and certainly could not have ever worked on a construction project of significant size in a city centre location. 

 

 

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On 25/01/2026 at 00:16, Stifler said:

Ah mate, I’m not taking anything personally. I’ve just seen him spout quite a bit about the new stadium, non of which has either lined up with what has been reported or sometimes he just repeats what’s been reported as his own. As we all know, we have heard ITK’s about every subject of NUFC and it’s a bit tiresome really.

 

I just don’t think that if these cables exist, they will be a massive obstacle, and I find it hard to believe that such important cables like these would not have been mapped and known about, especially as it seems to go under the Leazes end which would have had mean they were either installed or at least known about when level 7 was added.

I also find it annoying and attention seeking that he made the first post which is cryptic last night, and didn’t post the added context to it until this morning.

I’ve encountered underground HV cables (and other utilities) not being where the as-built drawings suggested they would be as well as where dial before you dig states they would.  But again, the worst case outcome with that for a client is usually an EOT and / or cost claim as a variation. 

 

 

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I remember the 3D models of what is under the streets of London while Crossrail was being planned, absolutely mental. Like a massive 3D spaghetti puzzle with tube lines, utilities, broadband, sewers and the lot. And they had to drill another railway tunnel through the bastard :lol:

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31 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I remember the 3D models of what is under the streets of London while Crossrail was being planned, absolutely mental. Like a massive 3D spaghetti puzzle with tube lines, utilities, broadband, sewers and the lot. And they had to drill another railway tunnel through the bastard :lol:

I don’t doubt it :) - I worked on Sydney’s Light Rail, and with it being run through the centre of Sydney the existing service runs were insane.

 

And, it transpired, hopelessly inaccurate.  It’s incredible how often electrical, gas, water and comms services aren’t in the location they say they are. 

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10 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

It’s not tricky at all.

 

Cards on table - I’ve worked on multiple billion-pound construction and infrastructure projects in a position of seniority.  HV cables being re-routed are encountered on pretty much any major project.  Anyone talking about them being a roadblock is exposing themselves as knowing fuck all about the subject, and certainly could not have ever worked on a construction project of significant size in a city centre location. 

 

 

 

Is it trickier than them not being there at all though? 
 

Who has claimed he has?

 

 

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48 minutes ago, LFEE said:

Is it trickier than them not being there at all though? 
 

Who has claimed he has?

 

 

 

It’s a single line item on a risk register on a major project, the PM team will barely blink at it.  It literally isn’t even worth the effort of a tweet.  It’s these ITK sad cases on twitter that just irritate me - he’s offering a running commentary on things that aren’t happening.  He’s delusional, and folks who follow him are playing into the delusion.  The man needs help. 

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1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said:

It’s a single line item on a risk register on a major project, the PM team will barely blink at it.  It literally isn’t even worth the effort of a tweet.  It’s these ITK sad cases on twitter that just irritate me - he’s offering a running commentary on things that aren’t happening.  He’s delusional, and folks who follow him are playing into the delusion.  The man needs help. 

Don’t let anyone bother you so much :lol:

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If we don't make a decision to leave SJP, we are going to be stuck right where we are. The ceiling of possibility has been reached given the current PSR rules. I am really hoping PIF is doing something in the background, but I have my doubts. Maybe the ROI is highest right where we are.

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random thoughts

 

ive just turned 41, season ticket holder for 35 years and generally my match days now look very different to what they did in my teens,20's and early 30's.

 

Im drinking less and less but still enjoy a couple before the game, this has changed to drinking in the ground in general and getting in there early (was first through the door against psv) 

 

i live a considerable distance away and changes in my responsibilites have led me to leave from 85 mins onwards depending on the way the game is going - it makes a huge difference to metro/traffic and it just makes getting home so much quicker and easier.

 

i was dead against leaving early in the past but now as im not staying in town on the lash or for a few afterwards it just alleviates a lot of hassle.

 

im all for a new stadium and would love if we could incorporate places for before and after a game that would generate money for the club

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3 minutes ago, Cookie1892 said:

random thoughts

 

ive just turned 41, season ticket holder for 35 years and generally my match days now look very different to what they did in my teens,20's and early 30's.

 

Im drinking less and less but still enjoy a couple before the game, this has changed to drinking in the ground in general and getting in there early (was first through the door against psv) 

 

i live a considerable distance away and changes in my responsibilites have led me to leave from 85 mins onwards depending on the way the game is going - it makes a huge difference to metro/traffic and it just makes getting home so much quicker and easier.

 

i was dead against leaving early in the past but now as im not staying in town on the lash or for a few afterwards it just alleviates a lot of hassle.

 

im all for a new stadium and would love if we could incorporate places for before and after a game that would generate money for the club

An early leaver admission - they’ll be coming for you with the pitch folks….

 

Out of interest, did you leave early at the Leeds game? If so, do you regret it? Did it make you reconsider before leaving early on Sunday, for example (although admittedly there was a very different feel to the likelihood of us getting back into those two games).

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35 minutes ago, Cookie1892 said:

random thoughts

 

ive just turned 41, season ticket holder for 35 years and generally my match days now look very different to what they did in my teens,20's and early 30's.

 

Im drinking less and less but still enjoy a couple before the game, this has changed to drinking in the ground in general and getting in there early (was first through the door against psv) 

 

i live a considerable distance away and changes in my responsibilites have led me to leave from 85 mins onwards depending on the way the game is going - it makes a huge difference to metro/traffic and it just makes getting home so much quicker and easier.

 

i was dead against leaving early in the past but now as im not staying in town on the lash or for a few afterwards it just alleviates a lot of hassle.

 

im all for a new stadium and would love if we could incorporate places for before and after a game that would generate money for the club

 

What did your match days look like when you were a season ticket holder aged 6 ?

 

At that age I wanted to be an X-Wing fighter pilot and was scared to ask mother why my wriggler felt funny when I played kiss-chase with the girls in my class at school during lunch break. 

Was no way I was being taken to watch a football match every other week.

 

 

 

 

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53 minutes ago, SteV said:

An early leaver admission - they’ll be coming for you with the pitch folks….

 

Out of interest, did you leave early at the Leeds game? If so, do you regret it? Did it make you reconsider before leaving early on Sunday, for example (although admittedly there was a very different feel to the likelihood of us getting back into those two games).

i didnt but i will confess i was on my way out of the ground against bournemouth when we got the pen and i turned round and went back in

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25 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

 

What did your match days look like when you were a season ticket holder aged 6 ?

 

At that age I wanted to be an X-Wing fighter pilot and was scared to ask mother why my wriggler felt funny when I played kiss-chase with the girls in my class at school during lunch break. 

Was no way I was being taken to watch a football match every other week.

 

 

 

 

 

i was obsessed with Football, i wanted to be playing or watching every waking minute of the day, match days i would be straight home and in the garden recreating the goals or saves id seen that day

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Look at the image below:

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This does not include player sales, due to the lumpy nature of them. What's encouraging about this is we are firmly in the Atletico / Villa / Milan / Juventus tier in a season without European football. When this comes out next year I'm quite sure we're going to be 13th, ahead of all of those clubs unless Atletico or Juventus make a very deep CL run. We are also creating a growing gap with every English team below us.

 

But now look higher. If we come in next year ~€475m we're still €50-100m behind Dortmund, Inter, and Chelsea when we do have CL football. We're still a €200m behind Tottenham and €300-500m behind the rest, which includes four English clubs.

 

If we want to be #1 -- and realistically to me that does not mean actually producing more revenue than Real Madrid; it means being amongst the top 10 here because at that point you can compete and win anything -- then there can only be one answer on the stadium. 

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Newcastle have finally committed to what Confidential has long reported - the proposed capacity of a new stadium NOT being beyond the 70,000 many supporters crave.

Indeed, we revealed last year that a video shown to the club’s owners during a Matfen Hall summit depicted a 65,000-seat stadium on Leazes Park. It was expected among insiders that PIF would green light that project imminently. That did not happen and a decision on whether to pursue this option or redevelop St James’ Park is still in the hands of the Saudi owners.

However, CEO David Hopkinson said during a radio interview this week that the supply-demand modelling work the club have carried out would mean a new home of no bigger than 65-68,000. He also said that around another 10,000 could be added to St James’.

For now, though, the infrastructural focus is on improvement work at the current training ground and revealing grand plans for a new £200m training centre at Woolsington. Work on the communications around the latter is ongoing.

 

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33 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

I personally think that the strategy they are most happy with is keep supply low and have people paying top dollar for what is currently available. Expect more large price increases next season.

Yeah. In an ideal world you have expensive tickets to great seats, and level 7 type seats offered out at £10/£20/£30 as well as those given to the local community.

 

That’s not where we will be under PIF though, it’s not where most clubs in the Premier League will be.

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