St James' Park

[TheBrownBottle]

10 minutes ago, Terrymac1966 said:

Now listen here ya bugA us 60+ year olds was once screaming and fighting Leazes Enders in the back end of the 60,s early 70s skinheads wild boys. Just coz were getting on a bit and cant chase Man U down Bath Lane any more we still feel the passion but not as vocal agreed. We can still gan crackers on the day but dont think mild applause is us. Next youll be suggesting building a Tutting Stand for owld farts of which Poz is now one 😁 cheeky git.....

Love the idea of a tutting section  

[Stifler]

24 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Love the idea of a tutting section  

It would be over subscribed.

[Stifler]

In all honesty, and this isn’t limited to just NUFC. I honestly think the Premier League needs to start thinking about some compromises in regards to televising games. We all have our opinions on if the 3pm blackout rule should exist or not. I doubt many people would change their mind unless it was scrapped and we see what happens.

 

Anyway, with stadiums being at capacity, all around the country, they really need to think about allowing games to be shown at designated fan parks.

We obviously have the Sela fan park, I believe Aston Villa are building one a similar distance away from Villa Park, and Man City are building one as part of their expansion. It’s stupid that non-televised games can’t be shown at these fan zones.

Teams who have fans locked out due to capacity issues, who can’t even let those fans see their teams play on TV.

Each club should be allowed 1 offsite venue that can show games.

Heck the Premier League could monopolise it themselves and have their own Premier League sports bars located in each city.

[bobbydazzla]

2 minutes ago, Stifler said:

In all honesty, and this isn’t limited to just NUFC. I honestly think the Premier League needs to start thinking about some compromises in regards to televising games. We all have our opinions on if the 3pm blackout rule should exist or not. I doubt many people would change their mind unless it was scrapped and we see what happens.

 

Anyway, with stadiums being at capacity, all around the country, they really need to think about allowing games to be shown at designated fan parks.

We obviously have the Sela fan park, I believe Aston Villa are building one a similar distance away from Villa Park, and Man City are building one as part of their expansion. It’s stupid that non-televised games can’t be shown at these fan zones.

Teams who have fans locked out due to capacity issues, who can’t even let those fans see their teams play on TV.

Each club should be allowed 1 offsite venue that can show games.

Heck the Premier League could monopolise it themselves and have their own Premier League sports bars located in each city.

Or you just buy a dodgy stick and watch every game in the comfort of your own home 

[Stifler]

12 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

Or you just buy a dodgy stick and watch every game in the comfort of your own home 

I mean the whole country is doing that in anyway.

I have two mates who are police officers who each have one.

A lass who I used to work with was doing a masters degree in criminology, and she was researching why people have one. Nearly every single answer she gained was that it was for the football, primarily for the games that are not shown on TV. Needless to say, she had one.

 

It’s fucking stupid man. Music artists realised in the early 2000’s that you had to make music attainable. So Apple came along with iTunes, convinced the record labels to allow them to sell individual songs for 99p. The pirating networks shut down.

 

Movie networks did similar, allowed for the likes of Netflix to happen, Cinema’s themselves started allowing discounted tickets like Orange Wednesdays, which has morphed into Meerkat Movies, and Amazon Prime Seats etc. The pirating of movies has gone down drastically. To be honest, if football was allowed to be viewed more, then movie pirating would go down even further, as most people only do it because the IPTV they have for football often includes football.

 

 

Edited November 23, 2024 by Stifler

[Vedder]

I do think we need a new stadium if we are to compete with the current ‘big six’. However, watching SJP being torn down will be devastating. Just hope the new stadium is at Castle Leazes and is so good that we’ll have no regrets. 

[Vedder]

Also, for those in fan representative groups, if a new stadium is announced, can we request that a focus on atmosphere is included as early as possible into new plans. Singing areas (all standing) behind at least one of the goals should be a priority. 

[LFEE]

1 hour ago, Stifler said:

I mean the whole country is doing that in anyway.

I have two mates who are police officers who each have one.

A lass who I used to work with was doing a masters degree in criminology, and she was researching why people have one. Nearly every single answer she gained was that it was for the football, primarily for the games that are not shown on TV. Needless to say, she had one.

 

It’s fucking stupid man. Music artists realised in the early 2000’s that you had to make music attainable. So Apple came along with iTunes, convinced the record labels to allow them to sell individual songs for 99p. The pirating networks shut down.

 

Movie networks did similar, allowed for the likes of Netflix to happen, Cinema’s themselves started allowing discounted tickets like Orange Wednesdays, which has morphed into Meerkat Movies, and Amazon Prime Seats etc. The pirating of movies has gone down drastically. To be honest, if football was allowed to be viewed more, then movie pirating would go down even further, as most people only do it because the IPTV they have for football often includes football.

 

 

 

Pirating went down but musicians revenue from music sales bombed also as a result. So the solution is never that simple.

[Wolfcastle]

11 hours ago, Whitley mag said:

The stadium is poorly designed for acoustics, yeah it can be loud when the whole ground gets going, but the sound doesn’t travel otherwise due to the design of level 7.

Every stadium in the premier league has a poor atmosphere, whatever the shape and that pretty much covers every option, whether new or old.

The various incarnations of SJP have all had good and bad atmospheres. The wide open at both ends pre Premier League desigh, the 36k incarnation or the 52k.  Its the type of people in the stadiums that's the problem and there'd be more of those not less the bigger the stadiums get.

 

 

[TheBrownBottle]

1 minute ago, LFEE said:

Pirating went down but musicians revenue from music sales bombed also as a result. So the solution is never that simple.

Cinema is also badly hit by streaming services, which have also massively curtailed movie sales - and most of the streaming services run up massive losses. 

[Golden Dragon 1976]

Its only a rumour but I have heard the the Premier league are thinking of moving all the 3pm games on a Saturday to 2pm on the Sunday so all games will be televised.  Obviously might be a while in coming but mean zero games would be effected by the blackout and it would be a . Just what ive heard before anyone shoots the messenger

[SteV]

6 minutes ago, Golden Dragon 1976 said:

Its only a rumour but I have heard the the Premier league are thinking of moving all the 3pm games on a Saturday to 2pm on the Sunday so all games will be televised.  Obviously might be a while in coming but mean zero games would be effected by the blackout and it would be a . Just what ive heard before anyone shoots the messenger

They’d be a monumental backlash against it, similar to the ESL fiasco, if it ever were proposed.

[duo]

7 minutes ago, Golden Dragon 1976 said:

Its only a rumour but I have heard the the Premier league are thinking of moving all the 3pm games on a Saturday to 2pm on the Sunday so all games will be televised.  Obviously might be a while in coming but mean zero games would be effected by the blackout and it would be a . Just what ive heard before anyone shoots the messenger

No thanks

[LFEE]

14 minutes ago, Golden Dragon 1976 said:

Its only a rumour but I have heard the the Premier league are thinking of moving all the 3pm games on a Saturday to 2pm on the Sunday so all games will be televised.  Obviously might be a while in coming but mean zero games would be effected by the blackout and it would be a . Just what ive heard before anyone shoots the messenger

I can see them moving them all to 5-6pm Saturday.

 

 

Edited November 24, 2024 by LFEE

[Mikky]

12 hours ago, Vedder said:

Also, for those in fan representative groups, if a new stadium is announced, can we request that a focus on atmosphere is included as early as possible into new plans. Singing areas (all standing) behind at least one of the goals should be a priority. 

This 100% - a couple of yellow walls - NUFC version would be incredible or 2 behind the goal stands that look different but bring noise.

 

A bit controversial but I would hope the new  stadium has a (indoor) roof - would increase the decibels still further and make our stadium unique amongst PL rivals - plus in can then be completely multipurpose 

[54]

24 minutes ago, SteV said:

They’d be a monumental backlash against it, similar to the ESL fiasco, if it ever were proposed.

I don't think there would be to be honest, the main point of the blackout is to protect EFL and National League clubs, in order to allow people to turn up and watch their local team.

 

This season there are 8 different slots that a Premier League game can be played on, so it wouldn't be a huge change to the fans anyway. Especially when you consider, that due to European fixture a lot of clubs play at 2pm on a Sunday already, for example in two weeks time there are only three 3pm games. 

 

Personally if we're going to get to the point where all Premier League games are televised (Which in the modern era they should be tbh), then I would rather this solution, than removing the blackout, it'll produce a dedicated slot of interest for lower league clubs, which will hopefully drive up interest. 

[wfmk2]

20 minutes ago, LFEE said:

I can see them moving them all to 5-6pm Saturday.

 

 

 

And lose all the Far East and Australian viewers? No chance. Best thing they could do is split the matches either side of the 3pm blackout period. Keeps Asia and North America happy.

[SteV]

15 minutes ago, 54 said:

I don't think there would be to be honest, the main point of the blackout is to protect EFL and National League clubs, in order to allow people to turn up and watch their local team.

 

This season there are 8 different slots that a Premier League game can be played on, so it wouldn't be a huge change to the fans anyway. Especially when you consider, that due to European fixture a lot of clubs play at 2pm on a Sunday already, for example in two weeks time there are only three 3pm games. 

 

Personally if we're going to get to the point where all Premier League games are televised (Which in the modern era they should be tbh), then I would rather this solution, than removing the blackout, it'll produce a dedicated slot of interest for lower league clubs, which will hopefully drive up interest. 

Is there any evidence relating to the perceived detrimental effect on non-league attendances?

 

I don’t know one person that regularly goes to watch non-league, that wouldn’t go if Newcastle were on TV.*
 

*I will qualify that by saying I don’t know many that regularly watch non-league full stop, so I’m probably not in a good position to judge.

[OpenC]

I know loads of non league fans that don't go when Newcastle are on the telly to be honest. Attendances at Alnwick go down by half to three quarters, easily.

 

 

Edited November 24, 2024 by OpenC

[AyeDubbleYoo]

36 minutes ago, OpenC said:

I know loads of non league fans that don't go when Newcastle are on the telly to be honest. Attendances at Alnwick go down by half to three quarters, easily.

 

 

 

Same with Bromley and Palace when I used to go there. 
 

That said, I still think it should be customer choice which one they’d rather do. 

[ponsaelius]

51 minutes ago, SteV said:

Is there any evidence relating to the perceived detrimental effect on non-league attendances?

 

I don’t know one person that regularly goes to watch non-league, that wouldn’t go if Newcastle were on TV.*
 

*I will qualify that by saying I don’t know many that regularly watch non-league full stop, so I’m probably not in a good position to judge.

 

It definitely makes a massive difference to crowds at Northern League level. Less so the further you go up the pyramid.

[El Prontonise]

1 hour ago, Golden Dragon 1976 said:

Its only a rumour but I have heard the the Premier league are thinking of moving all the 3pm games on a Saturday to 2pm on the Sunday so all games will be televised.  Obviously might be a while in coming but mean zero games would be effected by the blackout and it would be a . Just what ive heard before anyone shoots the messenger

 

Rumour.

[Hudson]

1 minute ago, El Prontonise said:

 

Rumour.

At a Premier League Shareholders' meeting today, clubs unanimously agreed that the Premier League will establish a new in-house media operations business. Launching for the start of Season 2026/27, the Premier League will bring all international media content production and distribution in-house

 

https://www.premierleague.com/news/4172032#:~:text=At a Premier League Shareholders,production and distribution in-house.
 

Doors been flung wide open. 

[Nucasol]

10 minutes ago, El Prontonise said:

 

Rumour.

Yes. Let’s turn into the NFL, maybe throw in some tailgate parties and Cheesehead hats to really capture the vibe. The sooner we weed out the US owners and stop this cultural vandalism the better.

[madras]

59 minutes ago, Hudson said:

At a Premier League Shareholders' meeting today, clubs unanimously agreed that the Premier League will establish a new in-house media operations business. Launching for the start of Season 2026/27, the Premier League will bring all international media content production and distribution in-house

 

https://www.premierleague.com/news/4172032#:~:text=At a Premier League Shareholders,production and distribution in-house.
 

Doors been flung wide open. 

How are they going to bend this to tye advantage of a certain few clubs ?