St James' Park

[madras]

16 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

One more thing I forgot to add

 

Those who want to stay with no changes, would they be happy with us getting both left behind by the sky 6 and potentially being over taken by clubs such as Villa who are willing to do what it takes to compete? 

 

We can complain about the rules all we like ( I don't think anyone on here be-moans them as much as me) but they aren't going to be loosened imo so this is the big picture choice that's actual being made. 

Does anyone want to stay with no changes?

[Dr Venkman]

42 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

I'm calling bollocks on this like. SJP should be one of the easiest places to access, Straight off the A1, over the Redheugh, along SJ Boulevard and you're there. I doubt there's many, if any easier venues to access. 

 

Certainly Sky/TNT have never had any issues getting there trucks and equipment in that I'm aware of.

Ok. I’ve explained really clearly what the issues are, in detail, it’s not to do with the fucking A1. 

[Shak]

What if the A1 was extended to lead directly through the Gallowgate?

 

Is that an option?

[r0cafella]

27 minutes ago, madras said:

Does anyone want to stay with no changes?

You can ask and see what people say. A gallowgate expansion doesn't help much with ffp. But obviously would allow more in but the cost probably makes it not viable. 

[Dr Venkman]

2 minutes ago, Shak said:

What if the A1 was extended to lead directly through the Gallowgate?

 

Is that an option?

Maybe if we all just believed SJP was a more viable gig venue, it would be?

[cubaricho]

5 hours ago, Mike said:

 

Aye me too. What are we talking about?

Marketing baby. 😘

[cubaricho]

32 minutes ago, madras said:

Does anyone want to stay with no changes?

@OpenCI think? Want us to be in the championship, I think? 
 

(safety )

[Shak]

2 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said:

Maybe if we all just believed SJP was a more viable gig venue, it would be?

 

We could build a retractable roof on SJP and then airlift equipment in to take advantage of the easy access the retractable roof provides.

[Gottlob]

I've been to hundreds upon hundreds of matches at St James' Park and I can remember how things seemed to move so quickly in the nineties, from an open stadium with the club shop in a portacabin to 52,000 seats and what for a time felt like one of the best stadiums in the land. But times change and now I have a child of my own, and I'd like to be able to take her to a game at some point in the not too distant future without her turning to me, with tears in her eyes, and saying 'Daddy, why have you brought me to such a shithole?'.

[LFEE]

1 hour ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

I'm calling bollocks on this like. SJP should be one of the easiest places to access, Straight off the A1, over the Redheugh, along SJ Boulevard and you're there. I doubt there's many, if any easier venues to access. 

 

Certainly Sky/TNT have never had any issues getting there trucks and equipment in that I'm aware of.

 

Don’t think they are talking about road access. They seem to be referring to getting equipment in and out the ground quickly via our one small tunnel. Sky/TNT just need cameras inside the ground. Artists will need big stage  gear and props.

 

 

Edited 10 hours ago by LFEE

[Ben]

2 hours ago, Dr Venkman said:

 

 

Mug.

 

Wow............................ where has this come from and what was the full context of the chat ?

[Wallsendmag]

39 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said:

Ok. I’ve explained really clearly what the issues are, in detail, it’s not to do with the fucking A1. 

 

Point me to where please as I missed it as it's a fast moving thread (please accept me apologies) and stop getting your knockers in a twist all the time ffs 

 

Honestly I'm wondering if you have issues!

[Wallsendmag]

10 minutes ago, LFEE said:

 

Don’t think they are talking about road access. They seem to be referring to getting equipment in and out the ground quickly via our one small tunnel. Sky/TNT just need cameras inside the ground. Artists will need big stage  gear and props.

 

 

 

 

Surely that would all just go through that massive access area in the NW corner then?

[bobbydazzla]

11 minutes ago, Gottlob said:

I've been to hundreds upon hundreds of matches at St James' Park and I can remember how things seemed to move so quickly in the nineties, from an open stadium with the club shop in a portacabin to 52,000 seats and what for a time felt like one of the best stadiums in the land. But times change and now I have a child of my own, and I'd like to be able to take her to a game at some point in the not too distant future without her turning to me, with tears in her eyes, and saying 'Daddy, why have you brought me to such a shithole?'.

 

I've taken my 13 year old daughter a few times

 

Upside: We were in the GEC and as we walked in she was blown away by the size of the Milburn & Leazes. Literally gobsmacked.

Downside: Has to queue for fucking ages for a piss. The Fender gigs were the worst, just hundreds of lasses stood waiting for a handful of toilets

 

[OpenC]

13 minutes ago, cubaricho said:

@OpenCI think? Want us to be in the championship, I think? 
 

(safety )

 

Well, not quite   what I meant was that I would rather elite football 2025 didn't require us to be balance sheet champions, and I would rather we played the mackems and Port Vale every week if it meant that we could just get on with enjoying football rather than worrying about the myriad distractions and miseries of PSR and financial fair play.  I'm not representative any more though, I prefer non league to Newcastle these days largely because of the way the game has been subjugated by politics and money.

 

Building in essentially the same place is obviously the least appalling option if we're moving but I just see what people are posting as exemplars of good modern stadium design and I'm  I personally think we'll lose something if the stadium isn't as imposing from the outside as SJP currently is, and given the current penchant for bowls and soft curves I don't think it will be.

[LFEE]

Just now, Wallsendmag said:

 

Surely that would all just go through that massive access area in the NW corner then?

 

I’d imagine so but possibly insufficient for in/out turnaround. Tours these days are literally moving circuses these days on very tight schedules to cram more dates in. Another industry that’s lost out on physical sales and is chasing revenue elsewhere.

 

Also the corner the tunnel is in and shape of stadium might not make logistical sense. Don’t know for sure though. Never been a band on at SJP that I’d want to see so far to see how they set it all up. 

[54]

On 07/10/2024 at 13:41, TBG said:

We'd be at risk of losing fans to the north sea but something like this with a Wembley Way esque walk to the stadium would be class

 

I still want us to do TBG's suggestion tbh.

[J7]

5 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

The culture changed due to the pricing out.  Football decided it didn’t want groups of young lads going.  It wanted older people with money and families, and none of them said a peep.  Now it wants tourists.  Martin Niemöller got this right. 

I do agree with that, but I also think there’s been a change in the general culture. Even if clubs hadn’t started to focus on older people with money and families, I doubt it would be like it was back then.

[Ben]

1 hour ago, bobbydazzla said:

 

I've taken my 13 year old daughter a few times

 

Upside: We were in the GEC and as we walked in she was blown away by the size of the Milburn & Leazes. Literally gobsmacked.

Downside: Has to queue for fucking ages for a piss. The Fender gigs were the worst, just hundreds of lasses stood waiting for a handful of toilets

 

 

I would love a smaller footprint that went UP instead of OUT, proper high thing that would allow easy access for blokes pushing boxes.

[gjohnson]

1 hour ago, 54 said:

I still want us to do TBG's suggestion tbh.

Hell no....that South Pier is a long walk....how will people cope without a pint without having to walk 10 mins

[TBG]

5 minutes ago, gjohnson said:

Hell no....that South Pier is a long walk....how will people cope without a pint without having to walk 10 mins

 

Food and drink vendors along the walkway. 

[bobbydazzla]

 

People could piss into the sea as they went along the pier walkways, reduce the queues at the bogs

 

 

Edited 8 hours ago by bobbydazzla

[OpenC]

"we got some class-leading sports infrastructure architects involved and asked them to come up with a design that would be sympathetic to the green space that's been here for centuries and to nearby Leazes Terrace, but would also pay tribute to the area's industrial past and to the strength of the people of Newcastle.  Ultimately what we'll create will be equal parts cutting edge sports stadium and a monument to the area, something of timeless quality which future generations can enjoy the same way as St James' Park has been for decades"

 

 

 

Edited 7 hours ago by OpenC

[gjohnson]

1 hour ago, bobbydazzla said:

 

People could piss into the sea as they went along the pier walkways, reduce the queues at the bogs

 

 

 

Wouldn't be any different to now with the pissheads chasing mackerel with their 4 can of fosters

[Cookie1892]

4 hours ago, madras said:

Does anyone want to stay with no changes?

no, we need to move