Mick Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Not really, you get familiar with names and avatars so when someone you've never noticed before insults you you do wonder who he is. He could have joined when you went missing when things weren't going too well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Baggio are you actually Derek? Or just try to answer as he would and put a picture of him as your avatar? Fair play if you like the man. Derek would then have two friends http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/s320x320/254616_259298007415574_229984367013605_1060349_6815212_n.jpg I just don't see the problem in the club looking to bring in more money and I agree with him that the same people who are bitching about it are the same people demanding the club show more ambition in signing players and paying wages. Apart from fucking up bringing back Keegan, bring in an inexperienced Wise and attempting to sell the club they've done a very good job in the past 2 or so years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Not really, you get familiar with names and avatars so when someone you've never noticed before insults you you do wonder who he is. He could have joined when you went missing when things weren't going too well. Is that when you stormed off too and started up a new forum you were emailing me to join? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Baggio wallows in the shit that upsets 99% of true toon fans. The club is on your doorstep and you don't even bother going to games, you're hardly a true fan are you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 I just don't see the problem in the club looking to bring in more money and I agree with him that the same people who are bitching about it are the same people demanding the club show more ambition in signing players and paying wages. Apart from f***ing up bringing back Keegan, bring in an inexperienced Wise and attempting to sell the club they've done a very good job in the past 2 or so years. Bringing back Keegan wasn't the problem, not backing him was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Baggio wallows in the shit that upsets 99% of true toon fans. The club is on your doorstep and you don't even bother going to games, you're hardly a true fan are you. i think you will find I occaisionaly do, and have, even before you were even a twinkle in your daddys eye. edit- been a season ticket holder in the past. maybe again who knows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guinness_fiend Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 http://img2.moonbuggy.org/imgstore/grandmother-handbag-fight.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_F Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Baggio are you actually Derek? Or just try to answer as he would and put a picture of him as your avatar? Fair play if you like the man. Derek would then have two friends http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/s320x320/254616_259298007415574_229984367013605_1060349_6815212_n.jpg I just don't see the problem in the club looking to bring in more money and I agree with him that the same people who are bitching about it are the same people demanding the club show more ambition in signing players and paying wages. Apart from fucking up bringing back Keegan, bring in an inexperienced Wise and attempting to sell the club they've done a very good job in the past 2 or so years. Errrr.....JFK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Is that when you stormed off too and started up a new forum you were emailing me to join? That forum was started long before that but it may have been around the time you're referring to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timnufc22 Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 In fact didn't Bobby Robson lie to the fans to protect Kieron Dyer? When he came out and told us that he didn't refuse to play out wide before coming out later sand admitting that was wrong? Good old Bobby. Thats management of a player. Ashley lied to the fans who signed up to 3 year season tickets about Keegan making the decisions, Dennis Wise lied to the fans about his role, and lied to Keegan one minute claiming he had a "great player" for him and the next minute admitting he'd never actually seen him play. "But you going to have him anyway" too. The situation with Ashley & his mates is a little more serious, surley. Both lied to not draw any unwanted attention to the club, put it this way if Ashley and came out after Keegan had said he had full control over transfers and said that wasn't the case then how do you think that would have gone down? The same goes for Keegan when he said he was getting on well with Wise which was a lie as he told the tribunal that their relationship was strained, now how much attention would it have brought on the club if Keegan had came out at the time and said he didn't get on with Wise rather than lying about it? What about when Hughton lied to the fans when he said he was still looking for an assistant only to come out when he left saying he wasn't allowed to replace Calderwood? How would it have gone down if he said that at the time? People say stuff to keep things in house, it's always happened and always will. I agree with your sentiment. Keegan says he was told he'd make final decisions verbally, Ashley denies that. I just think Ashley & co didnt really lie to 'keep the peace', but lied as a more pure deception, it was fairly emphatic when he answered the questions about Keegan in that Nufc magazine. And that Dennis Wise Gonzalez situation was as blatent as you can get. It was never just about Nacho though, news was being drip fed by someone for months before that that Keegan wasn't in charge of transfers and at one point he said off the record he was "just the coach" or words similar to that. The point is though that what you say in public isn't always what's happening behind the scenes, people say things to protect the club and I don't see what Ashley did as different from any of the examples that I've given. I agree in principle but just think Ashleys behaviour is worse than your implying imo, but its about opinions so fair do's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Baggio are you actually Derek? Or just try to answer as he would and put a picture of him as your avatar? Fair play if you like the man. Derek would then have two friends http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/s320x320/254616_259298007415574_229984367013605_1060349_6815212_n.jpg I just don't see the problem in the club looking to bring in more money and I agree with him that the same people who are bitching about it are the same people demanding the club show more ambition in signing players and paying wages. Apart from fucking up bringing back Keegan, bring in an inexperienced Wise and attempting to sell the club they've done a very good job in the past 2 or so years. Errrr.....JFK I put him in with attempting to sell the club, that's the only reason he was here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 You don't see peoples reservations about them doing this things to bring in more money as they say to invest in more players when i think we have made a profit in every window so far or something like that? It's not very easy for people to accept selling the stadium name to bring in more cash for players when they have seen very little evidence of that money being spent in the past like the Carroll example. Yes they still have time to spend that money in later windows but it seems clear from the mission statement they are not going to be spending very much of that at all. Plus the fact it is sports direct. So as i have read a lot don't even believe Ashley wants to sell the naming rights at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Baggio wallows in the shit that upsets 99% of true toon fans. The club is on your doorstep and you don't even bother going to games, you're hardly a true fan are you. i think you will find I occaisionaly do, and have, even before you were even a twinkle in your daddys eye. Occasionally? A true toon fan that only goes part time. Fantastic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/dpi/lowres/dpin786l.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Is that when you stormed off too and started up a new forum you were emailing me to join? That forum was started long before that but it may have been around the time you're referring to. I know for a fact it was Mick, we all left when we got the warning PM's and then you emailed me wanting me to sign up on that forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Is that when you stormed off too and started up a new forum you were emailing me to join? That forum was started long before that but it may have been around the time you're referring to. I know for a fact it was Mick, we all left when we got the warning PM's and then you emailed me wanting me to sign up on that forum. The cheek of you man, you obviously enjoy winding people up for whatever reason but to call someone over this is quite frankly ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Baggio wallows in the s*** that upsets 99% of true toon fans. The club is on your doorstep and you don't even bother going to games, you're hardly a true fan are you. i think you will find I occaisionaly do, and have, even before you were even a twinkle in your daddys eye. Occasionally? A true toon fan that only goes part time. Fantastic. Don't shoot someone down for that man. You have no idea what circumstances that person is in and why they can't get to every game. Doesn't make them any less of a fan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 I know for a fact it was Mick, we all left when we got the warning PM's and then you emailed me wanting me to sign up on that forum. Wrong, it was started one time Newcastle-Online was down and everybody was complaining about the state of the temporary forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guinness_fiend Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 The last few pages Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Baggio wallows in the shit that upsets 99% of true toon fans. The club is on your doorstep and you don't even bother going to games, you're hardly a true fan are you. i think you will find I occaisionaly do, and have, even before you were even a twinkle in your daddys eye. Occasionally? A true toon fan that only goes part time. Fantastic. yep- a true fan thats travelled the length of the country to watch us relegated in the past, a fan that stood in the rain year, on year in the lower division. A true fan with Family and business commitments, A true fan who wants the club to retain its Traditions where practicable. Like I say- for the reason of wanting the attention of going against the grain, you wallow in the shit Ashley gives us- well done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 You don't see peoples reservations about them doing this things to bring in more money as they say to invest in more players when i think we have made a profit in every window so far or something like that? It's not very easy for people to accept selling the stadium name to bring in more cash for players when they have seen very little evidence of that money being spent in the past like the Carroll example. Yes they still have time to spend that money in later windows but it seems clear from the mission statement they are not going to be spending very much of that at all. Plus the fact it is sports direct. So as i have read a lot don't even believe Ashley wants to sell the naming rights at all. The club was losing millions, this is a fact. Since then we've brought that under control while putting together a decent squad, I mean look at the state of it when he took over and compare it to the current squad we have now, back then we were worried that we couldn't get rid of the players we bought on big wages from the top teams and now we're worried about the top teams coming and taking our best players. Financially he's turned it around and he's done the same with the squad too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Lads, man, keep it on topic instead of trying to score points over each other. The "true fan" argument is embarrassing and certainly not relevant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 The last few pages Funny how certain threads(Ben Arfa) have gone down the same routine thanks to one particular poster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 yep- a true fan thats travelled the length of the country to watch us relegated in the past, a fan that stood in the rain year, on year in the lower division. A true fan with Family and business commitments, A true fan who wants the club to retain its Traditions where practicable. Like I say- for the reason of wanting the attention of going against the grain, you wallow in the s*** Ashley gives us- well done. You do realise you're justifying yourself to somebody who is on here during home games, don't you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 The cheek of you man, you obviously enjoy winding people up for whatever reason but to call someone over this is quite frankly ridiculous. Lonely and desperate for attention. http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/5125/fatmv.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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