St James' Park

[manorpark]

1 hour ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

People always say this, but in my experience it was always busy at rush hour. Not massively, but like 50 people or so getting on/off when I used to use it. 

 

 

 

 

It is likely to become much more busy from June, as it is located virtually "inside" the new 24/7 SELA  Fanzone.

[gbandit]

I take the St. James’ metro if I’m leaving SJP and going home. It’s the only time I use it. Actually that’s a lie, I very occasionally use it for work if I’m not driving. Must be the least used station on the line apart from for two hours a fortnight 

[et tu brute]

14 minutes ago, gbandit said:

least used station on the line

Manors

[OpenC]

Manors handy for the courts and Quayside I reckon, probably gets a bit of business

[AyeDubbleYoo]

9 minutes ago, OpenC said:

Manors handy for the courts and Quayside I reckon, probably gets a bit of business

And uni. 

[OpenC]

aye  i used to use Haymarket when I was there but also a good shout, the walkway still goes all the way down to Ellison Place if you're brave enough to walk through the stinky underpass bit

[LFEE]

3 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Is there any actual reason for the St James metro station? It must be used by about 7 people a day. 

Not sure about the need/demand for the actual station but I think the track is required so the Metro’s can change lines.

[ponsaelius]

Pallion is the least used on the network. Manors was 6th least.

 

St James is lower mid table 20 least used

 

Full data on the Excel sheet in here https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/usage_statistics

 

This is data from 2019, so pre COVID, plus changing development around stations.

 

 

Edited March 26, 2024 by ponsaelius

[Abacus]

4 hours ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

People always say this, but in my experience it was always busy at rush hour. Not massively, but like 50 people or so getting on/off when I used to use it. 

 

 

 

Get all 50 of them new jobs in Beamish.

[andycap]

It's a pity we couldn't tear the stadium down and rebuild it in the same spot. There was something I heard about moving the pitch further up to create more room to extend the capacity. But if we did where would we play our home games? 

[cubaricho]

3 minutes ago, andycap said:

It's a pity we couldn't tear the stadium down and rebuild it in the same spot. There was something I heard about moving the pitch further up to create more room to extend the capacity. But if we did where would we play our home games? 

Plenty of space in the St James Metro station apparently. Just play there. 

[Kanj]

Just shorten the pitch 

[Stifler]

48 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

Pallion is the least used on the network. Manors was 6th least.

 

St James is lower mid table 20 least used

 

Full data on the Excel sheet in here https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/usage_statistics

 

This is data from 2019, so pre COVID, plus changing development around stations.

 

 

 

Manors was the least used station on the line, until the uni opened up.

[ShootShoot]

Divert the St James Metro tunnel under the Sela fan park demolish the original station build the Gallowgate massif 

[gbandit]

NUFC buy the station, and the whole metro line. Rename it the NUFC express and all revenue goes towards FFP. Rename St. James’ metro the Saudi Dreamland Station and turn it into a mini theme park with rollercoasters that take you into the Gallowgate stadium. Price for a ticket on the Gallowgate coaster, £200 a pop. Solve two problems in one fell swoop 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, gbandit said:

NUFC buy the station, and the whole metro line. Rename it the NUFC express and all revenue goes towards FFP. Rename St. James’ metro the Saudi Dreamland Station and turn it into a mini theme park with rollercoasters that take you into the Gallowgate stadium. Price for a ticket on the Gallowgate coaster, £200 a pop. Solve two problems in one fell swoop 

@Darren Eales watch out, your replacement is coming 

[gbandit]

Aye, Dazza, watch your letterbox 

[Abacus]

4 minutes ago, gbandit said:

NUFC buy the station, and the whole metro line. Rename it the NUFC express and all revenue goes towards FFP. Rename St. James’ metro the Saudi Dreamland Station and turn it into a mini theme park with rollercoasters that take you into the Gallowgate stadium. Price for a ticket on the Gallowgate coaster, £200 a pop. Solve two problems in one fell swoop 

Not sure the Saudi Dreamland Station would want rollercoasters going to the gallowgate for branding reasons.

 

But divert the rollercoaster to the newly sponsored Middle East Stand and Bob's your uncle, Fanny's your aunt. 

[gbandit]

Middle East Stand has a lovely ring to it, £50m sponsorship please per year

[Guest]

8 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

The Metros do actually need to turn around there, you know

 

The Metro station was always the issue and is why expansion is likely impossible.  The piling you’d need to extend the Gallowgate back would be monstrous, and would go straight through the station. 

Aye, went through there recently and you realise that it's bordering on fantasy. It's probably 60-70 metres from street level to the metro platform. 

I know one of the reasons the mackems ground was so cheap is that they didn't have to do that, I think they actually dug down for the pitch? 

As much as I want it to happend the cost for an extra 8000 seats is off the charts 

[TomYam]

1. New stadium on Castle Leazes

 

2. Extend Leazes Park on to land vacated by old stadium

 

3. Build a couple of 30 storey commercial buildings on Gallowgate (in front of metro station)

 

Result: the club can take a giant leap forward and 20,000 more can attend, the city can finally get a worthy park in a great setting...and St. James's metro station would have much greater weekly use. 

[Arknor]

5 hours ago, ShootShoot said:

Divert the St James Metro tunnel under the Sela fan park demolish the original station build the Gallowgate massif 

 technically that station isn't even important to the city anyway.
I live in Arthurs Hill, 10 mins from St james but I'd rather walk through the park to the Haymarket or the Monument anyway.

does it really get much use on a match day? everyone seems to walk up from town anyway.

It's probably a station that loses money even.

This is how it runs now

Since it doesn't go to the west end they probably wish they never built it, and all the new uni buildings must prevent it ever going into the west end

 

 

 

Edited March 27, 2024 by Arknor

[Guest]

Such an opportunity lost with the brewery site, not so much to build directly on the site, but to actually move the ground away from leazes terrace and the conservation area. A slight adjustment of barrack road further west towards the site would have worked well.

Even if the council had plans you'd think the clubs relationship with the brewery would have given them some options. 

Theory-wise we are looking a horseshoe arrangement at an astronomical cost of redeveloping the gallowgate with a new east stand that will be modern but no additional benefit of increased capacity. 

There's also the cantilever option over the metro option (shepherds casino project) for a very large gallowgate but undesired look to the stadium and make the east stand look even smaller. 

A third option is an Aviva type bowl that sweeps around the four stands which would give us a bit more in the corners but would need major work on the leazes and milburn as well to fit the overall design. 

 

All 3 options are now looking inferior to moving into the leazes conservation plot or even castle leazes......

[Ben]

Tbf if they extend the Gallogate and put that see through screen above the East Stand it would still look great

[JonBez comesock]

Demolish the metro station and smash leazes terrace to bits.

 

Extend the east stand back to the Rvi - Adding an extra 40,000 seats 

 

Dig the pitch down 30 metres.

 

Add level 8 and 9 to the Leazes end and Milburn.

 

Blow up Beamish 

 

Add 70 corporate boxes to the gallowgate to boost that sweet commercial income 

 

Improve the WiFi , so we can cheat during the pre match quiz 

 

Bring back zorbs at half time 

 

Have Harry palmer read out the quiz questions on the pitch before the game (no cheating - despite WiFi)

 

Cheaters will be forced to spend a day at flamingo land selling large candy dummies.

 

Sell Longstaff 

 

Make Bruno a director.

 

Move manors metro station brick by brick to the arena site 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 27, 2024 by JonBez comesock