St James' Park

[ShootShoot]

41 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said:

If plan C is a goer.... then so should plan D be. Just tell the Freeman to suck my plums

 

 

 

Option 1 on that one

[ShootShoot]

Get one of these at each corner : Keegan Robson Shearer Harvey - job done 

[TomYam]

15 hours ago, OpenC said:

 

100% this. It would be the best option I think and if it was allowed to happen I think a redeveloped park on what's currently SJP would be hugely better than what we've got now (a falling apart rat infested grade 2 park) but there would be just as much opposition now as there was last time it/Castle Leazes was mooted imo

 

 

 

No, there would be much less opposition IF the land vacated by the existing stadium were redesigned/redesignated into park land. There would have been far less opposition to the Hall plans if they hadn't intended to retain St.James 's Park AND build a new stadium.

 

Again, though, why nit build a new stadium on Castle Leazes instead of buildinh over part of the existing stadium and a huge chunk of Leazes Park?  Option C makes no sense to me on that basis.

[Terrymac1966]

15 hours ago, Jack27 said:

Why should it be a non-starter? The park is a tip and if the club can work with the council/friends of Leazes Park so that new parkland is created if SJP is demolished and the club takeover management of the park it is win/win for everybody. 

I have fished there for many years on the established lake. In addition most of the trees are magnificent and generally the park is kept in good repair and used by literally thousands a week. I am a huge NUFC fan as my user suggests for rather a long time but would sooner protect the green and open spaces in the town as it has far less than many other major cities and this appeal is part and parcel of city growth of which football is just one fraction. Attached is my usual location and dont I just love the view too ?

[TomYam]

8 minutes ago, Terrymac1966 said:

I have fished there for many years on the established lake. In addition most of the trees are magnificent and generally the park is kept in good repair and used by literally thousands a week. I am a huge NUFC fan as my user suggests for rather a long time but would sooner protect the green and open spaces in the town as it has far less than many other major cities and this appeal is part and parcel of city growth of which football is just one fraction. Attached is my usual location and dont I just love the view too ?

My feelings too. I use the park a couple of times a week and it's well used by many friends I know. Admittedly there is regular antisocial activity to the south-west (Barrack Road), but the great majority of the oark is well-maintained and harmonious. For the wellbeing of the city we should be looking at expansion not diminishment.

[Whitley mag]

Castle Leazes is the path of least resistance, with an enlarged Leazes Park after SJP is flattened.

[Nucasol]

2 hours ago, Groundhog63 said:

Coe is as bent af and a tory cunt to boot. Watch it happen. 

 

 

 

Coe in their pocket. City’s ground is world class and has had public funding. Nothing further required for Manchester, thanks.

[r0cafella]

3 minutes ago, Nucasol said:

Coe in their pocket. City’s ground is world class and has had public funding. Nothing further required for Manchester, thanks.

Aye, giving Manchester another tax payer funded stadium has to be an absolute no go in the eyes of any government. It makes literally no sense and provides tax payers with zero value. 

[Kid Icarus]

In the eyes of the government 'The North' = Manchester and Leeds having a Harvey Nichols, as if that's the answer to something. 

[Miggys First Goal]

Fucking hell, option C all day long. Why is this even a discussion? Start fucking building now. 

[TheBrownBottle]

I still Manchester is the fucking midlands tbh, regardless of what the cunts who live there think

[Miggys First Goal]

Aye, boils my piss when they talk of “the north” and they’re actually talking about Manchester and Liverpool. Like get fucked. 

[Shearergol]

53 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I still Manchester is the fucking midlands tbh, regardless of what the cunts who live there think

 

I live practically on a straight line from Manchester. It's North. Not having it any other way.

[Sibierski]

Option C is hands down the best option. Think I said similar and a few others other month too, follow Spurs route where it can be built in two phases, with minimal impact. 

[LFEE]

4 hours ago, Terrymac1966 said:

I have fished there for many years on the established lake. In addition most of the trees are magnificent and generally the park is kept in good repair and used by literally thousands a week. I am a huge NUFC fan as my user suggests for rather a long time but would sooner protect the green and open spaces in the town as it has far less than many other major cities and this appeal is part and parcel of city growth of which football is just one fraction. Attached is my usual location and dont I just love the view too ?

Do you go to the games regularly?

[Terrymac1966]

1 hour ago, LFEE said:

Do you go to the games regularly?

 Never missed through the Fairs Cup days into the 80's and 90's finally giving up full time in 2014 having been on every march and protest against Ashley but gave up ticket as my final protest. Scoot gets me tickets now when he can and I supplement that with my occasional purchases amounting to about 6-8 games a season now including preseason which I tend to go to assess new additions. 

And yes Id like to go back but not at any cost to other aspects of Newcastle I love. 

Long answer sorry ?

[LFEE]

23 minutes ago, Terrymac1966 said:

 Never missed through the Fairs Cup days into the 80's and 90's finally giving up full time in 2014 having been on every march and protest against Ashley but gave up ticket as my final protest. Scoot gets me tickets now when he can and I supplement that with my occasional purchases amounting to about 6-8 games a season now including preseason which I tend to go to assess new additions. 

And yes Id like to go back but not at any cost to other aspects of Newcastle I love. 

Long answer sorry ?

No need to apologise. Was a good answer. Would you not like to see others be able to go though that can’t?

[TomYam]

3 hours ago, Shearergol said:

 

I live practically on a straight line from Manchester. It's North. Not having it any other way.

When I was a geography student, Cheshire was a midlands county and Lancashire a northern county - so that makes Manchester a northern county by a whisker. 

In Roman times, Manchester and Liverpool though not Leeds) were in Mercia - a midlands kingdom. 

One things for sure is this attempt to designate Manchester as the new capital of the north - where they are awarded cultural assets and offered economic and political advantages - is contempible.

 

[Groundhog63]

6 hours ago, TomYam said:

My feelings too. I use the park a couple of times a week and it's well used by many friends I know. Admittedly there is regular antisocial activity to the south-west (Barrack Road), but the great majority of the oark is well-maintained and harmonious. For the wellbeing of the city we should be looking at expansion not diminishment.

I agree, but the park isn't in peak condition by any measure. 

Obvs 14 years of tory cuts etc etc, a Labour council handing servicing of the park to a charity that's on its bones. 

Castle Leazes student accommodation on the death list

 

Perfect Storm to build on Castle Leazes (still walking distance from the city centre) 

Bribe the council with the offer to totally revitalise Leazes Park AND add the current ground footprint into the whole feature walkway upto the new ground. 

 

[Dr.Spaceman]

49 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said:

I agree, but the park isn't in peak condition by any measure. 

Obvs 14 years of tory cuts etc etc, a Labour council handing servicing of the park to a charity that's on its bones. 

Castle Leazes student accommodation on the death list

 

Perfect Storm to build on Castle Leazes (still walking distance from the city centre) 

Bribe the council with the offer to totally revitalise Leazes Park AND add the current ground footprint into the whole feature walkway upto the new ground. 

 

 

I think they've missed a massive trick if they haven't explored those avenues already. There is so much sponsorship and goodwill just waiting to be 'bought' by the Saudis. I am very surprised they've done so little to this point. Plenty time, and absolutely nothing to say they are or aren't already exploring loads of options but I thought the point of buying us was sportswashing. If so they're shite at it ?

[Groundhog63]

Just now, Dr.Spaceman said:

 

I think they've missed a massive trick if they haven't explored those avenues already. There is so much sponsorship and goodwill just waiting to be 'bought' by the Saudis. I am very surprised they've done so little to this point. Plenty time, and absolutely nothing to say they are or aren't already exploring loads of options but I thought the point of buying us was sportswashing. If so they're shite at it ?

It's a no brainier for me. It's currently a field full of cow shit with a dimly lit path for students to traverse and a bit for helicopters to land near the RVI. 

A ground over by the Barrack road side would still leave enough greenery on the Richardson road side. Christ they could even "park" that bit as well so there's  beautiful parkland from the Strawberry all the way upto the Cosy Dove

[RodneyCisse]

On 16/04/2024 at 19:15, PCW1983 said:

Don’t know how accurate this could be…option C for me! 
 

 

Option A for me like.

[Sima]

10 hours ago, mattypnufc said:

Good job they’ll be out on there arse before anything gets approved. 

Kind of thing they’d rush through to force Labour to either commit or risk a revolt in a strongly Labour heartland.

[Skjaere9]

Not to go all “brick by brick to Beamish” here, but wouldn’t it be fairly trivial to relocate all of the Victorian promenade features of Leazes Park west of the lake (walls and stairs, statues, bandstand, maybe even a restored version of the derelict lodge house) down to new parkland on the current footprint of SJP, to enable an Option C to work while enhancing the environment in front of Grade I listed Leazes Terrace, keeping the total parkland area essentially unchanged, while retaining and restoring the key features of Leazes Park, even on a rearranged layout? Not sure if that would fly with English Heritage or other stakeholders but seems a potential win-win for the club and city?

[Iwantcurlyhair2]

The amount of listed buildings that were demolished for the central motorway and Eldon Square show that for a "project that improves the city" progress should not be halted. I haven't heard anyone say just demolish leazes terrace buts let us move it to a new location. St James Park is the greatest building in our city and home to the greatest company in our city. Arguements for bandstands, parkland and for moving terraced houses shouldn't be detrimental to the business that provides everything to the city. For christ sake there is a stone in elswick pool commemorating the listed building Elswick Hall that was demolished to build the pool. If it's ok for elswick baths it's ok for nufc