Hudson Posted September 4, 2024 Share Posted September 4, 2024 4 hours ago, Heron said: 4 × English Champions 6 × FA Cup Winners 1 × Fairs Cup Winners 1 × Charity Shield Winners Easily matched with the trajectory we are on. Hell yes I would miss St James aswell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted September 4, 2024 Share Posted September 4, 2024 2 minutes ago, Heron said: I think they could invest in SJP and make it a lot better though, I don't see the need to move other than to get more bodies in. I'm not sure we can make the concourses any bigger without compromising elsewhere tbh. We need an attractive ground for outside events to increase revenue and attract bigger sponsors imo. Fuck the capacity increase, I don't want more whining pricks, tourists or plastics in the ground than we've already got. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted September 4, 2024 Share Posted September 4, 2024 18 minutes ago, Heron said: It won't have history. That's a pretty important metric. I know I'm being a pedantic arsehole by the way It wont have this level of locality to the city centre. It will have increased capacity and all the things a football stadium doesn't really need. If they're important metrics then so be it. I'll be honest, I simply won't be talked into it. The irony of all this is that FFP and PSR is designed to protect community assets such as football clubs to my knowledge, and yet here it is taking NUFC down a totally different track, away from it's historic home to make a quick buck so we can hopefully keep pace with the Jones'. Totally respect this mate. I am fond of SJP for sentimental reasons but if we could have a new one within spitting distance which helped us to achieve our ambitions I’m all for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted September 4, 2024 Share Posted September 4, 2024 Love SJP, many memories there, good and bad and some top crack with friends and family, however if they managed to secure permission for Leazes/Castle Leazes, I have absolutely no issue with it at all. or anywhere else city centre. Anywhere plastic and generic outside of the city is an absolute non starter in my eyes. Got nothing but disdain for stadiums like them. Shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted September 4, 2024 Share Posted September 4, 2024 55 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: I'm not sure we can make the concourses any bigger without compromising elsewhere tbh. We need an attractive ground for outside events to increase revenue and attract bigger sponsors imo. Fuck the capacity increase, I don't want more whining pricks, tourists or plastics in the ground than we've already got. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 4, 2024 Share Posted September 4, 2024 5 hours ago, FloydianMag said: I wonder what percentage of the fan base can remember any of that, loads weren’t even born in 1969 our last trophy. I was born in 68, can still remember Moncur holding it up. 😁 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted September 4, 2024 Share Posted September 4, 2024 5 hours ago, Miggys First Goal said: Maybe an unpopular and controversial opinion, but I don’t even think SJP is nice to look at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted September 4, 2024 Share Posted September 4, 2024 2 hours ago, Heron said: I think they could invest in SJP and make it a lot better though, I don't see the need to move other than to get more bodies in. Stadium sponsorship and vastly extended corporate is the issue. Extending SJP will barely make a dent in matchday revenues - and assuming that the FFP rules at UEFA don't change anytime soon, we're not competing at the level PIF claim they want us to with an extended SJP - we'd be potentially close to 100m per season behind the big matchday earners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted September 4, 2024 Share Posted September 4, 2024 6 hours ago, Miggys First Goal said: Maybe an unpopular and controversial opinion, but I don’t even think SJP is nice to look at. It isn't - it is a lopsided concrete bowl. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted September 4, 2024 Share Posted September 4, 2024 2 hours ago, Danh1 said: Well said. I don’t get the clamour for it. People getting a hard on over new walls and shiny floors. “We need it to compete” do we fucking bollocks man. Do what it takes to enhance the size of SJP. Our home for 130 odd years. People want to rip that up for the sake of a shiny new modern bowl. Fuck the NFL and that tatie off True Faith who was buzzing about it inal. Never understood the obsession with getting NFL to SJP. I doubt they'd consider going to Newcastle in any case. But there are other reasons to support a move Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted September 4, 2024 Share Posted September 4, 2024 St James' has character, history. New stadiums are like a shiny new build. Not for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted September 4, 2024 Share Posted September 4, 2024 9 minutes ago, duo said: St James' has character, history. New stadiums are like a shiny new build. Not for me. Wonder how many fans of Sunderland, Leicester, Man City, Arsenal etc would love to swap back to their traditional home. Would be a high percentage imo (of those who experienced both ground anyways) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elma Posted September 4, 2024 Share Posted September 4, 2024 (edited) I suspect the percentage of Man City/Arsenal might be lower than the other two mentioned as they've witnessed success in their new stadiums. West Ham would be an interesting one. That's arguably the worst move. Edited September 4, 2024 by Elma Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted September 4, 2024 Share Posted September 4, 2024 3 hours ago, Heron said: It will have increased capacity and all the things a football stadium doesn't really need. If they're important metrics then so be it. I'm sympathetic to a lot of what you're saying, but football does really need it's supporters. And generations are going to be locked out at this rate, with the average age of matchgoers being pensionable in the next decade or so. Massive growth is the best chance of enabling more people to support the club and keeping prices from skyrocketing even higher. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted September 4, 2024 Share Posted September 4, 2024 31 minutes ago, duo said: St James' has character, history. New stadiums are like a shiny new build. Not for me. SJP was a shiny new build 20-odd years ago. It isn't the same ground I attended in my youth other than the East Stand - and if you're my dad's age, it is a completely different ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted September 4, 2024 Share Posted September 4, 2024 3 minutes ago, Elma said: I suspect the percentage of Man City/Arsenal might be lower than the other two mentioned as they've witnessed success in their new stadiums. West Ham would be an interesting one. That's arguably the worst move. Arsenal’s atmosphere was terrible until 22/23 like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted September 4, 2024 Share Posted September 4, 2024 3 hours ago, Heron said: It won't have history. That's a pretty important metric. I know I'm being a pedantic arsehole by the way It wont have this level of locality to the city centre. It will have increased capacity and all the things a football stadium doesn't really need. If they're important metrics then so be it. I'll be honest, I simply won't be talked into it. The irony of all this is that FFP and PSR is designed to protect community assets such as football clubs to my knowledge, and yet here it is taking NUFC down a totally different track, away from it's historic home to make a quick buck so we can hopefully keep pace with the Jones'. Better view for the majority? Better acoustics for all? Allow more of those currently locked out in? Gotta move with the times. SJP in 1983 (first visit) has nothing remaining including the pitch when they dug it up for under soil heating as it is today. Maybe even a bigger storage cupboard for WorFlags Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted September 4, 2024 Share Posted September 4, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, huss9 said: posted in error. Edited September 4, 2024 by manorpark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted September 4, 2024 Share Posted September 4, 2024 22 minutes ago, Danh1 said: Wonder how many fans of Sunderland, Leicester, Man City, Arsenal etc would love to swap back to their traditional home. Would be a high percentage imo (of those who experienced both ground anyways) I doubt too many Leicester, Sunderland, Man City and Arsenal supporters get genuinely teary-eyed about it beyond nostalgia for their own youth. Highbury was a great stadium; Maine Road, Filbert Street and Roker were absolute dives by the end. All of the grounds mentioned are pretty much central (Ashburton Grove is close enough to Highbury). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted September 4, 2024 Share Posted September 4, 2024 6 hours ago, Miggys First Goal said: Maybe an unpopular and controversial opinion, but I don’t even think SJP is nice to look at. It is also an inaccurate opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted September 4, 2024 Share Posted September 4, 2024 Just now, manorpark said: It is also an inaccurate opinion. Matters of personal taste can't be inaccurate - you can disagree, of course. Personally, I've never liked SJP in its current state. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted September 4, 2024 Share Posted September 4, 2024 Just now, TheBrownBottle said: Matters of personal taste can't be inaccurate - you can disagree, of course. Personally, I've never liked SJP in its current state. You are wrong there, it is an inaccurate opinion. You can allow some flexibility along the lines of "it is only my opinion", but there are limits to that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted September 4, 2024 Share Posted September 4, 2024 49 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Never understood the obsession with getting NFL to SJP. I doubt they'd consider going to Newcastle in any case. But there are other reasons to support a move We've likely largely missed the boat on the NFL, though with their continued focus on growing internationally it's certainly possible as a once in awhile thing. But really the NFL is just a three letter way of saying any non-football sport played on grass, plus concerts, other events, and non-NUFC football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted September 4, 2024 Share Posted September 4, 2024 I'm still erring on the side of staying at SJP but could probably be convinced if they ensure it's still got a supreme location (is Castle Leazes up by the BBC?) and has a unique design with character, maybe even asymmetrical. Keep fans on board for the design. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted September 4, 2024 Share Posted September 4, 2024 36 minutes ago, manorpark said: You are wrong there, it is an inaccurate opinion. You can allow some flexibility along the lines of "it is only my opinion", but there are limits to that. Any discussion re building aesthetics is absolutely subjective. SJP is not an attractive building IMO - very few stadiums are. You disagree - no issues with that, but you're no more factually correct than I am. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now