tmonkey Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Time for his critics to hold their hands up. I thought he was a poor player overperforming earlier on in the season and last season for Villa, really didnt like him because of his poor technique at times - thought of him as a Bowyer type player, high work rate low ability - and would have been happy to see him being shipped out. Needless to say, that was all bollocks. Without a doubt, the lad is an absolute class act, and whats more, hes improving every game. Lack of pace means nowt for a winger if you have intelligence and some ability on the ball, Ljungberg who I have always hated was a top player for Arsenal purely because of those abilities, and Milner has improved in both respects for me. On top of this, his first touch has improved drastically. Todays game should have confirmed without a shadow of a doubt that not only is Milner good enough to be backup for left wing, hes more than good enough to be a permanent fixture there. Its also possible that hes a better player on the left wing than on the right, because he ends up cutting inside more often and linking up with play as well as working the touchline, whereas on the right wing he tends to do that less as naturally he wouldnt want to come onto his left foot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest smoggeordie Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Aye, he was superb today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Don't say such a thing like that man because N'Zogbia is clearly the best left sided player on the planet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Don't say such a thing like that man because N'Zogbia is clearly the best left sided player on the planet. Yet again I can say... I'm glad Roeder didn't manage to achieve his effective swap with the fat Aussie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 good player for a mid table side (6th-15th) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Never rated him tbh. I agree with the left sided comment though, have said it a few times before that I think he players better there. He has the ability to put the ball in with his left foot but also the ability to cut in and shoot or put in a good cross with his right. He doesn't really need pace as he has a few skills in him to beat a man and get a bit of space his footwork doesn't look as good as the likes of Ronaldo but it is often effective. Paulo Ferreira wouldn't exactly be looking forward to a rematch any time soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 good player for a mid table side (6th-15th) I would argue he has been as effective as a fair few of the top 6 wingers over the last 2 seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Ljungberg didn't have pace? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Milner is a superb player tbh Just 20,and seems to be one of few players who play with his brain instead of just kicking the ball and chasing after it like an idiot he is smart,and have the abillty to come out with some really good moments I really think he has been our best player this season,and not Martins,and i am shocked that we still havn't offer him a new contract.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Wasn't it his 50th appearance this season? Pity the cunt Roeder didn't play him at AZ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 He's done well considering his game is based around crossing and for the best part of the season he's had fuck all to aim at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 The boy's quality. Ferreira was a nervous wreck by half time, they had to stick another man on him after the break. He's been doing that all year though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Ljungberg didn't have pace? Not on the ball, in terms of being a dribbler. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Ljungberg didn't have pace? Ljungberg didn't really play on the wing either. Never seen him put in a cross in my life, he plays in a free role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Never used to rate him....but he's been one of our best players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Ljungberg didn't have pace? Ljungberg didn't really play on the wing either. Never seen him put in a cross in my life, he plays in a free role. Ljungberg regularly played on the left or right wing when he hit peak form for Arsenal. Granted he drifted infield alot, but he did play out wide alot of the time, and the reason why you probably havent seen him cross the ball is because he tends to fall over when there is minimal contact from a fullback, either that or pass it to an overlapping teamate. But the point still stands - he wasnt someone who would beat his man with pace, he would instead make intelligent runs infield and use the ball well. The point with regards to Milner being that Milner can do likewise as an alternative to going down the flank, he doesnt have to be limited by a lack of blistering pace. Hes already starting to do that to a degree imo, and hes becoming harder to dispossess ala Ljungberg, hence the slight comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheOrder Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Aye, top bloke as well. Utter professional. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 He reminds me of Beardsley for some reason, the posture i think when running and the amount of effort giving each game. If he could sort out his shooting abilities, i'd have him through the centre creating, i know he's tried there before, and that before us it was his natural position, but i think he'll end up back there either Scholes type creating, or a bit further forward and become a proper link up and goalscorer in his own right. Either which way, he's a mint player and i'm so glad he's ours and not Villa's. Given, Taylor, Zoggy, Milner & Martins are the only 1st team players i would be gutted to see leave this club, the rest are replaceable, crap or past it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 He reminds me of Beardsley for some reason, the posture i think when running and the amount of effort giving each game. If he could sort out his shooting abilities, i'd have him through the centre creating, i know he's tried there before, and that before us it was his natural position, but i think he'll end up back there either Scholes type creating, or a bit further forward and become a proper link up and goalscorer in his own right. Either which way, he's a mint player and i'm so glad he's ours and not Villa's. Given, Taylor, Zoggy, Milner & Martins are the only 1st team players i would be gutted to see leave this club, the rest are replaceable, crap or past it. Owen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 He reminds me of Beardsley for some reason, the posture i think when running and the amount of effort giving each game. If he could sort out his shooting abilities, i'd have him through the centre creating, i know he's tried there before, and that before us it was his natural position, but i think he'll end up back there either Scholes type creating, or a bit further forward and become a proper link up and goalscorer in his own right. Either which way, he's a mint player and i'm so glad he's ours and not Villa's. Given, Taylor, Zoggy, Milner & Martins are the only 1st team players i would be gutted to see leave this club, the rest are replaceable, crap or past it. Owen? What about him? Replaceable & very costly, in hindsight a big mistake, a one i hope is rectified this summer with either Manu or Liverpool taking him off our hands, nothing would please me more to see us get our money back, we might just if them two clubs go at it for him, if not near enough £12m+ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 He reminds me of Beardsley for some reason, the posture i think when running and the amount of effort giving each game. If he could sort out his shooting abilities, i'd have him through the centre creating, i know he's tried there before, and that before us it was his natural position, but i think he'll end up back there either Scholes type creating, or a bit further forward and become a proper link up and goalscorer in his own right. Either which way, he's a mint player and i'm so glad he's ours and not Villa's. Given, Taylor, Zoggy, Milner & Martins are the only 1st team players i would be gutted to see leave this club, the rest are replaceable, crap or past it. Owen? What about him? Replaceable & very costly, in hindsight a big mistake, a one i hope is rectified this summer with either Manu or Liverpool taking him off our hands, nothing would please me more to see us get our money back, we might just if them two clubs go at it for him, if not near enough £12m+ All I was asking. ^ Personally, I'd like to see him give us at least one season, but I wouldn't be terribly gutted if he left. Bit pissed, but I'd get over it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 He reminds me of Beardsley for some reason, the posture i think when running and the amount of effort giving each game. If he could sort out his shooting abilities, i'd have him through the centre creating, i know he's tried there before, and that before us it was his natural position, but i think he'll end up back there either Scholes type creating, or a bit further forward and become a proper link up and goalscorer in his own right. Either which way, he's a mint player and i'm so glad he's ours and not Villa's. Given, Taylor, Zoggy, Milner & Martins are the only 1st team players i would be gutted to see leave this club, the rest are replaceable, crap or past it. Owen? What about him? Replaceable & very costly, in hindsight a big mistake, a one i hope is rectified this summer with either Manu or Liverpool taking him off our hands, nothing would please me more to see us get our money back, we might just if them two clubs go at it for him, if not near enough £12m+ All I was asking. ^ Personally, I'd like to see him give us at least one season, but I wouldn't be terribly gutted if he left. Bit pissed, but I'd get over it. no matter who leaves you get over it. i wonder if toons taylor was saying buying shearer was a mistake when he got injured in that friendly at everton,after all he produced little that season and for £15mill then. as for milner whern he was on the verge of leaving last year,i'd rather have kept him but if he leaves for the benefit of the club,so be it....now that benefit would have to be substantial. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 He reminds me of Beardsley for some reason, the posture i think when running and the amount of effort giving each game. If he could sort out his shooting abilities, i'd have him through the centre creating, i know he's tried there before, and that before us it was his natural position, but i think he'll end up back there either Scholes type creating, or a bit further forward and become a proper link up and goalscorer in his own right. Either which way, he's a mint player and i'm so glad he's ours and not Villa's. Given, Taylor, Zoggy, Milner & Martins are the only 1st team players i would be gutted to see leave this club, the rest are replaceable, crap or past it. Owen? What about him? Replaceable & very costly, in hindsight a big mistake, a one i hope is rectified this summer with either Manu or Liverpool taking him off our hands, nothing would please me more to see us get our money back, we might just if them two clubs go at it for him, if not near enough £12m+ Owen, replaceable? Care to name a finisher of his calibre (there are few on the planet) who would be willing to come to a mid-table club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alan Shearer 9 Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Solano Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 He reminds me of Beardsley for some reason, the posture i think when running and the amount of effort giving each game. If he could sort out his shooting abilities, i'd have him through the centre creating, i know he's tried there before, and that before us it was his natural position, but i think he'll end up back there either Scholes type creating, or a bit further forward and become a proper link up and goalscorer in his own right. Either which way, he's a mint player and i'm so glad he's ours and not Villa's. Given, Taylor, Zoggy, Milner & Martins are the only 1st team players i would be gutted to see leave this club, the rest are replaceable, crap or past it. Owen? What about him? Replaceable & very costly, in hindsight a big mistake, a one i hope is rectified this summer with either Manu or Liverpool taking him off our hands, nothing would please me more to see us get our money back, we might just if them two clubs go at it for him, if not near enough £12m+ Owen, replaceable? Care to name a finisher of his calibre (there are few on the planet) who would be willing to come to a mid-table club? Good point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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