oldtype Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Did he really look that disinterested yesterday? I didn't really notice anything. I think the body language thing is overhyped. But the fact that he hasn't said anything remotely convincing about staying at the club speaks volumes. I thought people were exaggerating earlier on but if he isn't willing to commit at this stage (miles safe), be it in conversation with the supporters or with a pen and the board, i think we can guess he's pretty much out the door. Desperately disappointing. I agree that the media silence from both him AND the club says a lot more than his body language. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Have ANY of our players looked like they care in the last few months? Hell f***ing fire. Honestly don't know how people can come up with statements like this at times. Yes, of course they bloody have. We wouldn't still be in the division. Cast your mind back to 08/09, and see the effects of a dressing room that genuinely couldn't give two shits. 'Better' players, too. Today we finished the game with Kuqi and Ranger upfront. And we're still comfortably ahead of the relegation pack. Yes, the players care. It's the kind of infuriatingly hyperbolic nonesense that some people can't resist after a defeat sadly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Have ANY of our players looked like they care in the last few months? Hell f***ing fire. Honestly don't know how people can come up with statements like this at times. Yes, of course they bloody have. We wouldn't still be in the division. Cast your mind back to 08/09, and see the effects of a dressing room that genuinely couldn't give two shits. 'Better' players, too. Today we finished the game with Kuqi and Ranger upfront. And we're still comfortably ahead of the relegation pack. Yes, the players care. It's the kind of infuriatingly hyperbolic nonesense that some people can't resist after a defeat sadly Blasphemy! How dare you imply that we don't have the worst, most unmotivated players in the league that we'll all sell anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 His form has dipped noticeably in the last couple of months like. I also think he'll be sold to the highest bidder this summer. Wonder if he hands in a transfer request? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OoOGazOoO Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I agree that the media silence from both him AND the club says a lot more than his body language. I agree. His 'wait until the Summer', seems to have been just a way to maybe not annoy the fans by saying he is leaving in the Summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 He is not infallible. He us not without mistake His defensive qualities and distribution will come under far more scrutiny. He is revered in these parts because of what we have had to put up with with babayaro ramage nzogbia at left back, and the fact that he has been a notable improvement. How many assists has he actually got? I would say less than ekkotto baines etc If we get a good fee and an adequate replacement I won't be dissappointed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 He is not infallible. He us not without mistake His defensive qualities and distribution will come under far more scrutiny. He is revered in these parts because of what we have had to put up with with babayaro ramage nzogbia at left back, and the fact that he has been a notable improvement. How many assists has he actually got? I would say less than ekkotto baines etc If we get a good fee and an adequate replacement I won't be dissappointed Same here. His pace and strength are real virtues defensively. However, his decision making and distribution are suspect at times. He may look better in a team with more movement around him though. Guess we'll find out next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OoOGazOoO Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 One of the negatives of Enrique going, which i think is a big disappointment, is his link up play and understanding with Jonas. They have a very good understanding, they know eachothers' game, and they often link up very well on the left. It will obviously take time for a replacement left back to get that understanding with Jonas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 One of the negatives of Enrique going, which i think is a big disappointment, is his link up play and understanding with Jonas. They have a very good understanding, they know eachothers' game, and they often link up very well on the left. It will obviously take time for a replacement left back to get that understanding with Jonas. Evan that isn't as good as it was. They aren't linking up as intuitively as they did at the start of the season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Liverpool fans seemed impressed with what they saw yesterday but I thought he was just OK - certainly not showing the standards he reached earlier in the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 One of the negatives of Enrique going, which i think is a big disappointment, is his link up play and understanding with Jonas. They have a very good understanding, they know eachothers' game, and they often link up very well on the left. It will obviously take time for a replacement left back to get that understanding with Jonas. they used to link up brilliantly before jose completely lost the plot and made skinning 5 men and doing 360's every time he gets the ball a priority Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Recently whenever he takes the ball forward you just know he's going to do something clumsy and lose it. Been nowhere near as good as he should bar Man United tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Maybe I'm not observant enough but I'm struggling to understand the recent avalanche of criticism Enrique's getting. He's been below par, yes, but no worse than most of our other players. But, if he is fed up, can anyone blame him? I cant (personally I'm not in the anti-Pards brigade, but I don't think its a coincidence that the squad is now unsettled and players like Jose who, under Hughton, had no desire whatsoever to leave the club, but now could have their eyes on the exit door). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Be interesting to see what he says on that shit BBC programme tonight. No doubt whatever it is will be used to bash him fiercely with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Be interesting to see what he says on that s*** BBC programme tonight. No doubt whatever it is will be used to bash him fiercely with. Yep. "omg he blinked twice, itched his nose and stuttered he wants to leave jooseee out!! " Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 He is not infallible. He us not without mistake His defensive qualities and distribution will come under far more scrutiny. He is revered in these parts because of what we have had to put up with with babayaro ramage nzogbia at left back, and the fact that he has been a notable improvement. How many assists has he actually got? I would say less than ekkotto baines etc If we get a good fee and an adequate replacement I won't be dissappointed You can pick holes if that makes you happy but there WILL be top clubs in for him this summer. Why? because he's a top player. End of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wullie Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 You can criticize his play going forward until the cows come home (it's pretty good tbh) but up against a tricky winger, there's not a full back in the league I would choose ahead of him. Defending is 90% of a full back's job and finding a good defensive one is fucking hard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 He is not infallible. He us not without mistake His defensive qualities and distribution will come under far more scrutiny. He is revered in these parts because of what we have had to put up with with babayaro ramage nzogbia at left back, and the fact that he has been a notable improvement. How many assists has he actually got? I would say less than ekkotto baines etc If we get a good fee and an adequate replacement I won't be dissappointed You can pick holes if that makes you happy but there WILL be top clubs in for him this summer. Why? because he's a top player. End of. Agree But it's a different proposition doing it in a pressurised top team environment Ask bassong/keane/berbatov/Milner etc the list is endless In twitter terms #unabletomakethestepup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ember Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Might have been mentioned but there's an interview with him on Late Kick Off tonight. Saw a snippet where he's saying like "I just want to play football, I am happy in Newcastle, but would be happy too elsewhere" - whether he means he wants out though could be interpreted differently because of the language difference, i.e. he may not be fully aware how people would interpret it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 He is not infallible. He us not without mistake His defensive qualities and distribution will come under far more scrutiny. He is revered in these parts because of what we have had to put up with with babayaro ramage nzogbia at left back, and the fact that he has been a notable improvement. How many assists has he actually got? I would say less than ekkotto baines etc If we get a good fee and an adequate replacement I won't be dissappointed You can pick holes if that makes you happy but there WILL be top clubs in for him this summer. Why? because he's a top player. End of. Agree But it's a different proposition doing it in a pressurised top team environment Ask bassong/keane/berbatov/Milner etc the list is endless In twitter terms #unabletomakethestepup He's been one the best strikers in the league this season. Quality player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 He is not infallible. He us not without mistake His defensive qualities and distribution will come under far more scrutiny. He is revered in these parts because of what we have had to put up with with babayaro ramage nzogbia at left back, and the fact that he has been a notable improvement. How many assists has he actually got? I would say less than ekkotto baines etc If we get a good fee and an adequate replacement I won't be dissappointed You can pick holes if that makes you happy but there WILL be top clubs in for him this summer. Why? because he's a top player. End of. Agree But it's a different proposition doing it in a pressurised top team environment Ask bassong/keane/berbatov/Milner etc the list is endless In twitter terms #unabletomakethestepup What on earth is Berbatov doing in that stupid list? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 He is not infallible. He us not without mistake His defensive qualities and distribution will come under far more scrutiny. He is revered in these parts because of what we have had to put up with with babayaro ramage nzogbia at left back, and the fact that he has been a notable improvement. How many assists has he actually got? I would say less than ekkotto baines etc If we get a good fee and an adequate replacement I won't be dissappointed You can pick holes if that makes you happy but there WILL be top clubs in for him this summer. Why? because he's a top player. End of. Agree But it's a different proposition doing it in a pressurised top team environment Ask bassong/keane/berbatov/Milner etc the list is endless In twitter terms #unabletomakethestepup What on earth is Berbatov doing in that stupid list? Why so stupid? Ask man u fans whether berbatov has lived up to price tag The rest speak for themselves oh knowledgable one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I talk to Man Utd fans all the time - they think he's absolute quality, and he is. Almost 60 goals in 3 seasons, not to mention the assists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Berbatov is the top scorer in the league this season ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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