Dinho lad Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 But you made up that 2nd part. You mean just like you twisted the scaniaro about enrique earlier? We lost Carroll, Nolan, most likely enrique and, soon, Tiote if he continues to improve. Not to forget Barton. Which part is made-up? As I've said, name one non-top 6 club who'd have rejected those offers, offered Barton a long-term contract, and would be able to keep a player like Enrique when he only has a year to go? How about if you look at the bigger picture, then. Why are we in the position that we are in now? Does it mean we should accept it? Don't get what you mean, sorry. why aren't we in a position to keep enrique? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Sounds class this like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Lack of leadership out there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
binnsy Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 has lee ryder not tweeted anything yet, he's with them so should know something!! then again after what he's said in the last week maybe not... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 But you made up that 2nd part. You mean just like you twisted the scaniaro about enrique earlier? We lost Carroll, Nolan, most likely enrique and, soon, Tiote if he continues to improve. Not to forget Barton. Which part is made-up? As I've said, name one non-top 6 club who'd have rejected those offers, offered Barton a long-term contract, and would be able to keep a player like Enrique when he only has a year to go? How about if you look at the bigger picture, then. Why are we in the position that we are in now? Does it mean we should accept it? Don't get what you mean, sorry. why aren't we in a position to keep enrique? Because we're not a top 6 club, and won't be for the foreseeable future even if we spent the £35m imo, given Liverpool have spent £45m themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 It's always something every year... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 How anyone can say that he's right to do this in public is beyond me like. All it does is serve to give the press stories of unrest. Much better to deal with these things in private, whether his allegations are true or not. By the way, in response to that Steve Brenner quote, Coloccini said yesterday that the atmosphere and team spirit was very good in the camp. Certainly looks good from the training pics as well. What's the Captain gonna say? 'We're a f***ing selling club, everyone here knows he's only a window away from being f***ed off to another club if the owners are happy with the bid, so morale is a bit s***'? And people claim Pardew should come out and tell the 'truth'. Oh the irony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I miss Chris Hughton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 It's always something every year... Since the big bang. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Lack of leadership out there. No surprises there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Might be worth waiting to see what's actually happened, by the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Barton is the true leader. He won't let things degenerate when they get back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 More than 2-3. Ben Arfa, Ferguson, Guthrie, Barton, Williamson, Cabaye, Ranger anyone else? Plus we do seem to be attempting to get in at least one more striker. Ben Arfa, Barton and possibly Cabaye. Ferguson wouldn't have done any better than Enrique or Jonas, Williamson wouldn't have done any better than Taylor and I don't think Guthrie would have made an impact. Ranger wouldn't have got a game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Might be worth waiting to see what's actually happened, by the way. Fuck that, Tiote's gone! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 As I've said, name one non-top 6 club who'd have rejected those offers, offered Barton a long-term contract, and would be able to keep a player like Enrique when he only has a year to go? The difference is that most clubs would have re-invested the money back into the first team, like we were initially promised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Jose chinned Pards Tiote has eaten Carver Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Top 8 is a possibility IMO if we get another decent striker and a replacement for Enrique. We'll see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Guthrie would have done more than Smith and Ranger is better than Loven. Ferguson being fit would mean we wouldn't have had to risk Jose. Basically I think we are missing 3 maybe 4 first team players and 3 maybe 4 squad players which is quite a lot. Just my opinion though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 As I've said, name one non-top 6 club who'd have rejected those offers, offered Barton a long-term contract, and would be able to keep a player like Enrique when he only has a year to go? The difference is that most clubs would have re-invested the money back into the first team, like we were initially promised. Like Everton when they sold Rooney? (spent under £2m on Marcus Bent & Tim Cahill that summer) They went on to have their best season in 20 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Jose chinned Pards Tiote has eaten Carver Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Shola is keeping Goofy hostage in his hotel room. Won't let him go until he tells him where he got his hat from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Just asked Mehdi what the craic is... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Gonna be interesting to see what's happened. I reckon Tiote's off. It's gonna have to be something big if it's caused it all to kick off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 It's all starting to sound too much like the fallout after relegation. Some players don't want to be here any more and they need to be shipped out before spreading the poison into the dressing room. Bassong and Beye were super players for us but they needed to go to clear the air. Same with Shay Given at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Guthrie would have done more than Smith and Ranger is better than Loven. Ferguson being fit would mean we wouldn't have had to risk Jose. Basically I think we are missing 3 maybe 4 first team players and 3 maybe 4 squad players which is quite a lot. Just my opinion though. Ranger wouldn't have got a game regardless of him being better than Lovenkrands. Guthrie is slightly better than Smith, I'll give you that but he doesn't have a good 90 minutes in him. He's not as bad as most people on here make him out but he doesn't work for a full game and is back-up at best. We might be missing 4 players, the new players that we've mainly brought in from a foreign country have about a dozen premiership games between them and a poor injury record. Cabaye looks good and Ba should get goals if he can stay fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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