ToonTastic Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Love how xiscos wages goes up 10 grand for each year he's here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Fucking Xisco man. Can he even go back to being a professional footballer at any level after doing fuck all for three years? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Love how xiscos wages goes up 10 grand for each year he's here as if we'd have put him on 50k a week ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Terrifying how naive some people are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Ah after we have thrashed Arsenal, Sunderland and Fulham in a superb outstanding manner Jose will sign his new deal before the close of the window. That would be lovely..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Who cares about the fee.. Whatever someone is willing to pay for Enrique is not going to be spent to improve the squad anyway so would rather keep him for this season and let him leave on a free when his contract runs out. Get a grip man..Of course he'll improve the squad..He's amply proven that already. That's why we need the money for Enrique, so we're able to buy a PROPER replacement. Besides, if he wants to sell the club, he'll get much more for it if the squad is full of prospects and is fighting in the upper tier of the table. From this perspective, he got every incentive to plow the money he earns from player sales back into the team. http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3222/unledhjc.png So a French international in Cabaye isn't a reinforcement? He's cheaper and better than Nolan..BA is better than Shola, and his stats are impressive. .MA managed to haggle over Nolan, Carroll and Routledge's fees.We got more than they're worth imo. You're so f***ing negative that you refuse to see the positive aspects that actually are happening. We've brought in nearly £40m in transfer fees this calendar year and yet we need to sell Enrique to be able to afford a replacement. f***ing hilarious man. Ma has always said that wages have to be considered as a part of the picture when calculating how much of the £35 mill from Carroll is used. I'm pretty sure that Mav and Cabaye are both on 40 000 a week, minimum. Over five years, that's £20 mill on two players, in salaries only..On top of that we have sign on- (Mav and Ba)agent fees (Mav, Ba and Cabaye) . And you're forgetting that we actually had a £10 mill bid for Gameiro accepted. With the current economical climate in USA and Europe, our current debt situation and turnover vs salary ratio I think MA's conservative spending is a wise approach. I'm pretty sure that we have a replacement for Enrique ready. Everything depends on him. We cannot use £5-6 on Mbenge and paying him £40 a week without selling Enrique first. What if Enrique decides to finish his contract? Then one of them has to be benched. That is a luxury(sportingly and economically) we cannot afford. And it's not a solution neither Enriqe and Mbenge are satisfied with. You say Ba is better than Shola. I think the point is how can you say that we've done well if Shola is still our nr.2? And only income of football clubs isn't transfer fees FFS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Who cares about the fee.. Whatever someone is willing to pay for Enrique is not going to be spent to improve the squad anyway so would rather keep him for this season and let him leave on a free when his contract runs out. Get a grip man..Of course he'll improve the squad..He's amply proven that already. That's why we need the money for Enrique, so we're able to buy a PROPER replacement. Besides, if he wants to sell the club, he'll get much more for it if the squad is full of prospects and is fighting in the upper tier of the table. From this perspective, he got every incentive to plow the money he earns from player sales back into the team. http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3222/unledhjc.png So a French international in Cabaye isn't a reinforcement? He's cheaper and better than Nolan..BA is better than Shola, and his stats are impressive. .MA managed to haggle over Nolan, Carroll and Routledge's fees.We got more than they're worth imo. You're so f***ing negative that you refuse to see the positive aspects that actually are happening. We've brought in nearly £40m in transfer fees this calendar year and yet we need to sell Enrique to be able to afford a replacement. f***ing hilarious man. Ma has always said that wages have to be considered as a part of the picture when calculating how much of the £35 mill from Carroll is used. I'm pretty sure that Mav and Cabaye are both on 40 000 a week, minimum. Over five years, that's £20 mill on two players, in salaries only..On top of that we have sign on- (Mav and Ba)agent fees (Mav, Ba and Cabaye) . And you're forgetting that we actually had a £10 mill bid for Gameiro accepted. With the current economical climate in USA and Europe, our current debt situation and turnover vs salary ratio I think MA's conservative spending is a wise approach. I'm pretty sure that we have a replacement for Enrique ready. Everything depends on him. We cannot use £5-6 on Mbenge and paying him £40 a week without selling Enrique first. What if Enrique decides to finish his contract? Then one of them has to be benched. That is a luxury(sportingly and economically) we cannot afford. And it's not a solution neither Enriqe and Mbenge are satisfied with. You say Ba is better than Shola. I think the point is how can you say that we've done well if Shola is still our nr.2? And only income of football clubs isn't transfer fees FFS. Ben Arfa is our number 2, Best number 3. Imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Why are people so surprised? MA wants to cut the wage bill. That doesn´t happen if you replace like for like. It´s a painful process, but hopefully it will pay dividends in the end. The Carroll money were a large one-time sum, and using it on transfer fees only would just result in a bigger wage bill that the normal revenue would have problems to sustain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 If you invest in the right players, the normal revenue increases. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 If you invest in the right players, the normal revenue increases. That's the problem with football..Finding the right players is difficult, and there need not be a correlation between what you pay and what you get. The revenue might increase, but it's not sure that the profit will be better since bringing in expensive players results in increased expenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Who cares about the fee.. Whatever someone is willing to pay for Enrique is not going to be spent to improve the squad anyway so would rather keep him for this season and let him leave on a free when his contract runs out. Get a grip man..Of course he'll improve the squad..He's amply proven that already. That's why we need the money for Enrique, so we're able to buy a PROPER replacement. Besides, if he wants to sell the club, he'll get much more for it if the squad is full of prospects and is fighting in the upper tier of the table. From this perspective, he got every incentive to plow the money he earns from player sales back into the team. http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3222/unledhjc.png So a French international in Cabaye isn't a reinforcement? He's cheaper and better than Nolan..BA is better than Shola, and his stats are impressive. .MA managed to haggle over Nolan, Carroll and Routledge's fees.We got more than they're worth imo. You're so f***ing negative that you refuse to see the positive aspects that actually are happening. We've brought in nearly £40m in transfer fees this calendar year and yet we need to sell Enrique to be able to afford a replacement. f***ing hilarious man. Ma has always said that wages have to be considered as a part of the picture when calculating how much of the £35 mill from Carroll is used. I'm pretty sure that Mav and Cabaye are both on 40 000 a week, minimum. Over five years, that's £20 mill on two players, in salaries only..On top of that we have sign on- (Mav and Ba)agent fees (Mav, Ba and Cabaye) . And you're forgetting that we actually had a £10 mill bid for Gameiro accepted. With the current economical climate in USA and Europe, our current debt situation and turnover vs salary ratio I think MA's conservative spending is a wise approach. I'm pretty sure that we have a replacement for Enrique ready. Everything depends on him. We cannot use £5-6 on Mbenge and paying him £40 a week without selling Enrique first. What if Enrique decides to finish his contract? Then one of them has to be benched. That is a luxury(sportingly and economically) we cannot afford. And it's not a solution neither Enriqe and Mbenge are satisfied with. You say Ba is better than Shola. I think the point is how can you say that we've done well if Shola is still our nr.2? And only income of football clubs isn't transfer fees FFS. Ben Arfa is our number 2, Best number 3. Imo. Ben Arfa has never been a massive goalscorer looking at his career stats. That's not to say he doesn't have the talent to adapt, but he's no striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Andy Carroll was never a massive goalscorer before us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Terrifying how naive some people are. Depressing how cynical some people are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Terrifying how naive some people are. Depressing how cynical some people are. Hardly cynicism to suggest Mike Ashley is not running the club in its best interests. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 If things turn out OK in the end (not necessarily with Enrique, but just NUFC generally come the end of the season) like Ian W suggests, are people going to apologise to him, or are they just going to find something else to moan about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 If things turn out OK in the end (not necessarily with Enrique, but just NUFC generally come the end of the season) like Ian W suggests, are people going to apologise to him, or are they just going to find something else to moan about? Whats a good season for us? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I see Izaguirre has a broken leg, that's one obvious potential replacement out of the question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcQuillan Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I see Izaguirre has a broken leg, that's one obvious potential replacement out of the question. He might be cheap now though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 If things turn out OK in the end (not necessarily with Enrique, but just NUFC generally come the end of the season) like Ian W suggests, are people going to apologise to him, or are they just going to find something else to moan about? Whats a good season for us? Consolidating a good midtable position. Improving our style of play. Maintaining a healty state of finances. See if we can challenge for Europe if we get lucky with injuries and suspensions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I see Izaguirre has a broken leg, that's one obvious potential replacement out of the question. He might be cheap now though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 If you invest in the right players, the normal revenue increases. That's the problem with football..Finding the right players is difficult, and there need not be a correlation between what you pay and what you get. The revenue might increase, but it's not sure that the profit will be better since bringing in expensive players results in increased expenses. Theres no guarantee no. In the same way theres no guarantee that getting cheaper alternatives wont result in your normal revenue decreasing following worse results since you are taking more of a risk. Results in the same situation except you have worse players & are closer to relegation. Then there are further implications, if your team is more successful you increase the chance of finding these bargains. As better players will be more likely to want to join without silly contracts & your current players are more likely to stay on similar terms. I think we missed out on Nzog this season, could have been big for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 "There's been no bids for José and I want him to stay. I keep looking at him and smiling. He smiles back but he hasn't signed the contract yet and that is a problem." http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/aug/07/newcastle-united-alan-pardew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 "There's been no bids for José and I want him to stay. I keep looking at him and smiling. He smiles back but he hasn't signed the contract yet and that is a problem." http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/aug/07/newcastle-united-alan-pardew You fker I was on my way on here to post that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 :lol: wtf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 "There's been no bids for José and I want him to stay. I keep looking at him and smiling. He smiles back but he hasn't signed the contract yet and that is a problem." http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/aug/07/newcastle-united-alan-pardew You fker I was on my way on here to post that So was i, you'll have to apologise to me now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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