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Having adequate cover at all positions shouldn't even be an issue. The notion of starting a league campaign without a  single recognised LB is laughable. I know we've got players who could come in a play there but I'm talking about having NO LB specialists. It's not an  acceptable position but that's what happens when you've got a casino manager running the gaff day-to-day.

 

I just wish we had someone who had a modicum of sense and a knowledge of how football works. It's just the basics - they're fucking clueless. Can't wait to hear the excuses trotted on Sept 1st...

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Small fee because he wants out and only has a year left on his contract. He's gone because Liverpool are a higher profile club globally, and have been for years. If they have a wage cap it's higher than ours, so he's probably pulling something like an extra £1.5 million a year. It's a comment on where we are.

 

FFS we haven't been a f*cking honeypot of a club for about 8 years. Bizarrre how people throw hissy fits about us not having a recognised left back in mid August. We went for about 3 seasons under Souness, Roeder, Allardyce and Keegan without a left back we wanted to put on the pitch. He needs replacing but Jose going has been on the cards for months and it's time to move on....

 

That is most people's problem. We have known for ages he is going so why isn't there a replacement here now?

 

Because the club wanted to wait as long as possible, hoping that Enrique would change his mind..And they need the money from Enrique's sale to finance his replacement..And they cannot take on another player's salary without eliminating Enrique's. But they have of course been looking at replacements for months..When did the Mbenge rumor surface?

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Small fee because he wants out and only has a year left on his contract. He's gone because Liverpool are a higher profile club globally, and have been for years. If they have a wage cap it's higher than ours, so he's probably pulling something like an extra £1.5 million a year. It's a comment on where we are.

 

FFS we haven't been a f*cking honeypot of a club for about 8 years. Bizarrre how people throw hissy fits about us not having a recognised left back in mid August. We went for about 3 seasons under Souness, Roeder, Allardyce and Keegan without a left back we wanted to put on the pitch. He needs replacing but Jose going has been on the cards for months and it's time to move on....

 

That is most people's problem. We have known for ages he is going so why isn't there a replacement here now?

 

Because the club wanted to wait as long as possible, hoping that Enrique would change his mind..And they need the money from Enrique's sale to finance his replacement..And they cannot take on another player's salary without eliminating Enrique's

 

Stop with this nonsense.  Please.

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Surely we now need two left backs?

 

Don't push your luck.

 

We do though.. People don't realise how lucky we have been with Enrique's injury record (or lack thereof). Realistically, we need a first team left back and somebody who can cover naturally in that position.

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Having adequate cover at all positions shouldn't even be an issue. The notion of starting a league campaign without a  single recognised LB is laughable. I know we've got players who could come in a play there but I'm talking about having NO LB specialists. It's not an  acceptable position but that's what happens when you've got a casino manager running the gaff day-to-day.

 

I just wish we had someone who had a modicum of sense and a knowledge of how football works. It's just the basics - they're f***ing clueless. Can't wait to hear the excuses trotted on Sept 1st...

 

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Small fee because he wants out and only has a year left on his contract. He's gone because Liverpool are a higher profile club globally, and have been for years. If they have a wage cap it's higher than ours, so he's probably pulling something like an extra £1.5 million a year. It's a comment on where we are.

 

FFS we haven't been a f*cking honeypot of a club for about 8 years. Bizarrre how people throw hissy fits about us not having a recognised left back in mid August. We went for about 3 seasons under Souness, Roeder, Allardyce and Keegan without a left back we wanted to put on the pitch. He needs replacing but Jose going has been on the cards for months and it's time to move on....

 

That is most people's problem. We have known for ages he is going so why isn't there a replacement here now?

 

Because the club wanted to wait as long as possible, hoping that Enrique would change his mind..And they need the money from Enrique's sale to finance his replacement..And they cannot take on another player's salary without eliminating Enrique's

 

Stop with this nonsense.  Please.

 

Grow a brain. Please.

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If they need the finance (they don't IMO) it's funny how Liverpool managed to get Carroll the moment the Torres deal was agreed, very odd that we seem incapable of doing this...again.

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If they need the finance (they don't IMO) it's funny how Liverpool managed to get Carroll the moment the Torres deal was agreed, very odd that we seem incapable of doing this...again.

 

Too many contingencies..Selling Carroll only if we could find a replacement..With Liverpool paying a stunning £35 mill for him, it's likely that they did not accept such a solution..

 

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If they need the finance (they don't IMO) it's funny how Liverpool managed to get Carroll the moment the Torres deal was agreed, very odd that we seem incapable of doing this...again.

 

Too many contingencies..Selling Carroll only if we could find a replacement..With Liverpool paying a stunning £35 mill for him, it's likely that they did not accept such a solution..

 

 

Abramovich paid for Carroll tbh.

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If they need the finance (they don't IMO) it's funny how Liverpool managed to get Carroll the moment the Torres deal was agreed, very odd that we seem incapable of doing this...again.

 

Too many contingencies..Selling Carroll only if we could find a replacement..With Liverpool paying a stunning £35 mill for him, it's likely that they did not accept such a solution..

 

 

Abramovich paid for Carroll tbh.

 

Liverpool fans always say this but it still doesn't make sense.  Just because Liverpool wanted Carroll + £15m doesn't mean 'Chelsea paid for Carroll' as I always hear.

 

Liverpool still had to fork out £35m which could have gone anywhere they wanted.  The 'Chelsea paid for Carroll' is just a way to avoid admitting the extortionate fee paid.

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If they need the finance (they don't IMO) it's funny how Liverpool managed to get Carroll the moment the Torres deal was agreed, very odd that we seem incapable of doing this...again.

 

Too many contingencies..Selling Carroll only if we could find a replacement..With Liverpool paying a stunning £35 mill for him, it's likely that they did not accept such a solution..

 

 

Abramovich paid for Carroll tbh.

 

Liverpool fans always say this but it still doesn't make sense.  Just because Liverpool wanted Carroll + £15m doesn't mean 'Chelsea paid for Carroll' as I always hear.

 

Liverpool still had to fork out £35m which could have gone anywhere they wanted.  The 'Chelsea paid for Carroll' is just a way to avoid admitting the extortionate fee paid.

 

I kind of bought it at the time but it makes less sense now they've spunked so much money all over the place this summer, without selling players for £50m.

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Anyone that still has a glimmer of faith or a grain of trust in Ashley or Llambias is a f***ing idiot.

 

Welcome to the real world of Premiership football. So who do you trust? Agents? Players? Apart from the Man City lot, who have money to burn, are there any owners out there you really think are the dog's nuts? The Spurs boys know how to run a football club but it's a mistake to  think they will sacrifice the money motive for the football motive when push comes to shove. Maybe John Henry looks solid but coming off Hicks and Gillet anyone would. Lerner was looking like an angel until financial reality kicked in. Arsenal seem to be in a "transitional phase". Anyone else pulling up trees out there?

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If they need the finance (they don't IMO) it's funny how Liverpool managed to get Carroll the moment the Torres deal was agreed, very odd that we seem incapable of doing this...again.

 

Too many contingencies..Selling Carroll only if we could find a replacement..With Liverpool paying a stunning £35 mill for him, it's likely that they did not accept such a solution..

 

 

Abramovich paid for Carroll tbh.

 

Liverpool fans always say this but it still doesn't make sense.  Just because Liverpool wanted Carroll + £15m doesn't mean 'Chelsea paid for Carroll' as I always hear.

 

Liverpool still had to fork out £35m which could have gone anywhere they wanted.  The 'Chelsea paid for Carroll' is just a way to avoid admitting the extortionate fee paid.

 

It was a high fee, but they wanted Carroll and exploited Chelsea's desire to buy Torres in order to get him irrespective of the fee. Simple as that. It was perfectly sensible IMO.

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Anyone that still has a glimmer of faith or a grain of trust in Ashley or Llambias is a f***ing idiot.

 

Welcome to the real world of Premiership football. So who do you trust? Agents? Players? Apart from the Man City lot, who have money to burn, are there any owners out there you really think are the dog's nuts? The Spurs boys know how to run a football club but it's a mistake to  think they will sacrifice the money motive for the football motive when push comes to shove. Maybe John Henry looks solid but coming off Hicks and Gillet anyone would. Lerner was looking like an angel until financial reality kicked in. Arsenal seem to be in a "transitional phase". Anyone else pulling up trees out there?

 

Having followed NUFC since the early 80s, I think i'm well  aware of the real world of both pre and post premiership football, and pointing out other people/clubs who have ballsed up still doesn't validate the rimmer twins in any way any more than those who try and justify Ashley's tight-fistedness by bringing up Fat Fred's tenure (who was a useless shitbag, too).

 

Knowing that there's f*** all the fans can realistically do about it doesn't make it any less depressing; at least prior to Keegan mark II the majority of Newcastle fans knew little else but mediocrity.

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If they need the finance (they don't IMO) it's funny how Liverpool managed to get Carroll the moment the Torres deal was agreed, very odd that we seem incapable of doing this...again.

 

Too many contingencies..Selling Carroll only if we could find a replacement..With Liverpool paying a stunning £35 mill for him, it's likely that they did not accept such a solution..

 

 

Abramovich paid for Carroll tbh.

 

Liverpool fans always say this but it still doesn't make sense.  Just because Liverpool wanted Carroll + £15m doesn't mean 'Chelsea paid for Carroll' as I always hear.

 

Liverpool still had to fork out £35m which could have gone anywhere they wanted.  The 'Chelsea paid for Carroll' is just a way to avoid admitting the extortionate fee paid.

 

Agreed, its nonesense to be honest.  Its not like Chelsea were going to only give Liverpool £15m if they didn't buy Carroll so it didn't matter what they paid.  If they'd gotten Carroll for £20m they'd have gotten £30m plus Carroll, if they hadn't bought Carroll they'd have had £50m to spend on a better player.  Like you say its an excuse.

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