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Yeah, it's true, being a one-club city with crazy fans, a huge stadium, and so much potential helped too. They've already spent a ton on Newcastle. We went from almost getting relegated to the Champions League in just two years! And that's even with some obstacles. Can you imagine if there weren't any of those financial rules and obstacles? We don't need Chelsea's 2 billion spend on players, but even a quarter of that, and we'd probably be in the top three, competing for the title. Thats why I disagree with what the others were saying earlier on.

He's very fickle, continuously spitting the dummy, then returning when it suits. But that is a trait of many Sunderland fans. Sunderland boy made good and former chairman Tom Cowie nailed it decades ago.

I'm not saying they were unwilling to spend money; I agree, they clearly want us to succeed. All I meant was that we don't really know the full extent of what they would have done. Iirc Amanda mentioned something about PIF being prepared to invest around £60m per year on transfers (which they actually exceeded). Anyway, there's no point getting caught up in the what-ifs. People come to this thread for a bit of a serotonin boost, not to see dry debates about ownership and stuff

I see you missed the point entirely

Incredible to think we did all that under an Ashley regime.

Wow a Sunderland fan being pedantic and condescending, bless my cotton socks

Just out of curiosity did those overseas fans support them in the days of Ken Bates or when Abramovics billions came in?

Spot on, I don't believe selling hotels/womens team was part of the plan but rather a creative solution At some point it all has to catch up to them

According to this site (Which is very likely to be wrong): https://www.capology.com/player/jamal-lewis-35820/ He was on £45k a week, which equates to £2,340,000 per year. He has been here for 5 seasons, which means we've paid him £11,700,000 in his time at the club. We apparently paid around £15m for him from Norwich, which means he's cost us a total of £26,700,000. He played a total of 36 games of us, which means per game played he cost £741,666. He started 27 games for us, which means per start he cost £988,888. He played a total of 2580 minutes for us, which means per minute on the pitch he cost £10,348.

Congratulations, you are now a sports journalist

Chelsea sold theirs for 17.3 times their current revenue, sale was £200m If Villa did the same they'd sell for £109m

This is why I just posted in another thread that winning trophies and competing in the CL is important from a PIF viewpoint. Chelsea were barely on the international radar before Abramovich's buyout. Winning the PL in such style with Mourinho catapulted them into the spotlight.

And for all the good sellers tag they have something must be fucked up if they are needing to sell hotels etc to make ends meet for psr. At some point they have to run out of these one off items.

If Chelsea sign Gittens too that he got to be times up for Neto, Madueke or a few of their youngsters, The club should also look at what opportunities this transfer creates - is there someone who is now unsettled to go for

work in the sector and agree

For the first part he did an interview with Ben Foster. For the last bit. I made that up.

I think most of the mocking is for the approach taken by Boehly and Co, they weren't responsible for everything they've won in the last 10 years Only time will tell if their approach was genius but from the outside it just seems ridiculous and uncoordinated

I think if PIF saw us as purely an investment, they could probably have picked an easier investment opportunity where they didn't have to jump through hoops for 2 years to finally get to own a British PL club. That too after signing certain waivers. As a sportswashing exercise, maybe you could argue the case, but it's only effective from their POV if they own one which allows them to compete at the top level. Yasir's intermittent attendance at home games does suggest that they take it seriously. I don't think they want to be associated with an also ran team.

They really didn't. Professional teams don't throw games. Granted their focus may have waned, but that's a bad sign at any level. It may have caused a downturn in performance, and that coming from a starting base of never beating anyone convincingly was enough to see them lose to teams in lowly positions. Nor were they capable of instantly switching it back on when the important games returned. They struggled and were very lucky in all three play off games.

Flags now fine at music festivals. Note "mags will be fuming" reference in final comment.

Not sure where you get they are happy. They have tried to close every loophole they use.

I live in a rural community and farmers absolute bellends.

Clearly the system's rigged and it's sucking the life out of the game, but Chelsea are just exploiting that system, the lawmakers are the problem for me, and no player is going to care about that, it's actually working in their favour with these long contracts, and 99.9% of people in that position would do the same thing.

I’d rather have a Teddy on here than some of the cuckold alleged NUFC fans they allow to post on RTG. Biffo the Nonce being one.