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It's a tough one Midds cause the structure of SJH and it's relationship to Barclays and the club is so secretive (as MA would want it I guess). Others know more about this than me, but at a guess there must be a point where he bank will cap the overdraft if MA is refusing to underwrite it (if he is). Am I right in thinking that the only major people we (the club) owe money to are Barclays (the overdraft) and Ashley himself? If we go into administration, could the club write some of that debt off?

Are there any benefits for Ashley personally if he were to put us into administration?

Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson says Manchester City "are a small club with a small mentality". http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/8169153.stm Fergie's started his mind games early this year...

, cunt!

Speak up.

AGES. NOW STOP FUCKING SHOUTING.

Aye the 3 parties being Toast, The Sir Bobby Robson Foundation and the club. Nowhere does it say Bobby himself is to pay. Ultimately it is Bobby Robson's charity missing out on money they would have otherwise received, and therefore it is reasonable to perceive it as Robson footing the bill. Why are you toontastic people out in force on the windup tonight? What's he said that's wrong like? Toontastic 'people'? Shaking with rage? You need a long lie down tbh.

With this fixture being arranged at short notice Hughton obviously didn't have the chance to scout them properly and forgot to formulate some tactics... On the one hand you can say it's pre-season and results don't matter, it's all about fitness, don't get carried away with the performances etc, but getting humped isn't going to do any good at all. It's got to be a bit concerning for even the most optimistic of fans. As someone else said, why couldn't they play a bit of decent football whilst getting the fitness they need?

I'll give you 3 guesses...

If you're a City fan then that shirt is the business. Simple, unfussy and not cluttered with 'piping' or messy sponsors logos. It just works. They'll sell boatloads of them.

I've always thought that had Shepherd being playing with his own, hard-earned cash then he'd have been a bit more prudent. Credit to him for finding the cash to back his bosses but he wouldn't have handed his own cash over as readily as he did to the likes of Souness imo. The brakes would have been applied quick-sharp and rightly so. If he does come back then I hope he's learned a few lessons.

Can never get my head around people complaining about new shirts coming out. The clubs issue them because idiots with more money than sense keep on buying them. No-one forces them to but then keep on shelling out £40 every year to have the latest shirt. Don't like it? Don't buy it. There's no obligation.

Aye. Got off 'with his reputation intact'. So he's still a fucking cunt then.

Disgraceful. The legal system in this country is truly fucked up. It all equals out in the end though. Life will get him back eventually.

Realistically, I can't see anything happening soon. It's not like buying a packet of fucking crisps, is it? The new owners are going to wait til the price is at it's lowest and unfortunately the longer it goes, the lower the price becomes. I really fear that we've not hit rock bottom yet and it'll get a shite sight worse before it gets better. No idea what Ashley is hoping to get out of this situation tbh. He's taken a well-supported, solid Premiership club down a division and he's still not realised that he's never going to get his money back and the longer he leaves the sale hanging, the more he'll lose out of the deal. He's obviously not a thick bloke because he's made a billion quid but even a retard knows when it's time to put a coat on because it's pissing down. Just. Fucking. Sell. The. Club.

4 ITK's on 3 different forums. Don't go on KD's forum so I don't know what's been said there, but enough different people saying the same thing. Which basically is Huntelaar 'hopeful', Vieira practically finalised. Well if it's being said on football forums then it must be true.

It's still fucking rank tbh. If people like it then good on them. I'll not be buying it though.

Huh? What do they prove by showing the punches.. why do they need to be shown. The Gerrard business is also a prominent story on every news/football website out there, and has been for days. However we do like to knock the 'bias' of the media now don't we. I'll be totally honest here - I've never liked Gerrard. Right from the start I thought he was a dirty twat who jumped late into tackles on opponents. He's since gone on to cheat on a regular basis for club and country. I think he's a detestable little fucker and I admit I long for the day he gets his comeuppance. I know he's a very very good footballer btw. It annoys me because no matter how much he cheats he always has a load of ex-pro's making excuses for him. He gets away with fucking murder in the press. And lo and behold it's happened again. He's admitted in court today punching the guy several times, he's been caught on CCTV doing it and he's still got retards cheering him as he's walking out of court. He's still good ol' Stevie G. Butter wouldn't fucking melt, diamond geezer Stevie G. Role model and top professional Stevie G.... It fucking sickens me that he's likely to come out of this no worse for wear. He'll swagger out of court a convicted thug and he'll still he hero-worshipped but mongs in the media. Hes a fucking cunt and I hope life gets him back in the end. Fucking karma, man. (Sorry Cath)

Don't be so hasty, hold out a while longer and you might get £590 out of them. They'll cough up in 2010 too.

Foster's looks like a proper football stadium. Big, imposing, modern, swanky ground for the best team in Europe. The second one is just pie-in-the-sky stuff. Never going to happen.

The bloke gets elbowed by Gerrard's mate first. Then Gerrard shoves his head down and smacks him 5 or 6 times uppercut stylee. The news last night froze the CCTV just as Gerrard was about to throw the first punch interestingly. Almost as if they didn't want to expose Gerrard's twattishness to the nation.... Can't believe the easy ride Gerrard has got over this by the media. Can think of several footballers who would have been smashed by the press on a daily basis had they committed the same crime. Double standards all'ower the parish.

Would look better if it had lots of black arrows all over it.

At least quote the full sentence, those first 7 words are clearly important to the context I did quote it. I just highlighted the part where he said he had to get away from the club...which directly contradicted his first sentence. You highlighted a bit that looks bad when done so, the full sentence clearly states AS THINGS STAND......which anyone can see is a fair thing to say. Would you stay if you were him? He is clearly saying he will only go if this cant be resolved not that he wants to. I'd keep my trap shut and I'd continue to do what I was being paid to do whilst things are still in limbo. I wouldn't go running to the Sun with an EXCLUSIVE interview either. If I wasn't happy with how things were developing behind the scenes I'd hand a transfer request in. Are you for real? He wants the CLUBS position sorted. Where is the bad in that? We all want the club's position sorted tbh. I'm just saying that while he's here he should shut up and do his job and, if he doesn't want to be here, then ask for a transfer and go. Nothing more. He's putting pressure on Mike Ashley and I for one don't mind that. The only thing I don't like about these interviews that our players are giving is their lack of action in going and knocking on Ashley's door to demand him sorting this fuck out. As much as I understand his frustration I don't think it's his responsibility to publically put pressure on Ashley. I just expect players to stick to playing for the club and let the hierarchy to sort that stuff out. We all know Ashley's a knacker and couldn't find his arse with both hands. I also expect him to continue to bollocks things up but I expected better from Beye.

Totally disagree. I suppose I'm probably a bit old-fashioned in that I'd much prefer to keep things like that behind closed doors and away from the red-tops. Wash dirty linen in private and all that. Never mind.

At least quote the full sentence, those first 7 words are clearly important to the context I did quote it. I just highlighted the part where he said he had to get away from the club...which directly contradicted his first sentence. You highlighted a bit that looks bad when done so, the full sentence clearly states AS THINGS STAND......which anyone can see is a fair thing to say. Would you stay if you were him? He is clearly saying he will only go if this cant be resolved not that he wants to. I'd keep my trap shut and I'd continue to do what I was being paid to do whilst things are still in limbo. I wouldn't go running to the Sun with an EXCLUSIVE interview either. If I wasn't happy with how things were developing behind the scenes I'd hand a transfer request in. Are you for real? He wants the CLUBS position sorted. Where is the bad in that? We all want the club's position sorted tbh. I'm just saying that while he's here he should shut up and do his job and, if he doesn't want to be here, then ask for a transfer and go. Nothing more.