midds

It was when he stopped wearing that hair piece. The inverse Samson effect. For a bonus point who cut Samsons hair? The Wahl's of Jerusalem? Bet he was wailing.

Saw Shola at St Oswald's church in Wrekenton this afternoon.

Only a handful of clubs in the country better our attendances. Given the shite football, the recession, poor away followings and people saving a few pennies before Xmas I'd say our attendances are pretty fucking good actually.

Defeat from the jaws of victory. Fucking hell man - should have won that twat today. I know it's not a defeat but it fucking felt like one.

Midds, Morgan didn't even jump so how the hell was he using his elbows as leverage? Plus, as I said in previous post, no proof is needed that Morgan intended to seriously injure the player. The fact that there is proof that he was responsible for causing the horrific injuries is enough for a charge of Section 20 GBH. Fair enough I stand corrected. I thought you needed to prove intent if you wanted to take it further. I do still think it was caused as part of the game though. It's different to say, Paul Davis breaking Glenn Cockerill's jaw years ago. That was a punch off the ball which the ref didn't see. He got done and rightly so. This was 2 players challenging for the dropping ball. Morgan's attempt to play the ball was dangerous and I do think he knew exactly what he was doing. The ref saw it and gave a yellow. Bad challenge which has caused an injury so serious it's caused outrage. I'm arguing that people are up i arms due to the severity of the injury rather than the nasty challenge it was. Haven't explained that very well tbh.

All depends on quite a few things really. How well we do, who owns the club, how much is there to be invested, who's the new boss etc. Got a sneaky suspicion that if Shearer were to be made manager he'd sign for a couple of years. They get on well apparently and I think he'd sign for his mate. Long, long way from that happening yet though.

Shearer could quite easily have suffered the same fate at the hands/elbows of that Grimsby centre half a few years back. Shearer's an absolute legend but he left his elbow in there loads of times. He took kickings from CH's but could look after himself and was a dirty bastard too. It's the moral outrage I'm more concerned with. How the severity of the injury alters people's perceptions of the incident. Oooooh he's fractured his skull.......burn the twat, throw the fucking key away, he should suffer the same fate, ban the cunt, fucking disgrace to the game...etc. Absolutely insane. If what Morgan did was with deliberate malicious intent, then i'd say a bit of outrage is warranted, really. Surely that's what they're investigating, isn't it - whether or not it was deliberate? I'm not condoning all the moral outrage. Tbh though Midds, i'm surprised you can't see how it's deliberate. It's quite obviously done with malicious intent to me. Ok, so if it's that obvious then it'll be easy to prove it then. Fire away.

Shearer could quite easily have suffered the same fate at the hands/elbows of that Grimsby centre half a few years back. Shearer's an absolute legend but he left his elbow in there loads of times. He took kickings from CH's but could look after himself and was a dirty bastard too. It's the moral outrage I'm more concerned with. How the severity of the injury alters people's perceptions of the incident. Oooooh he's fractured his skull.......burn the twat, throw the fucking key away, he should suffer the same fate, ban the cunt, fucking disgrace to the game...etc. Absolutely insane. If what Morgan did was with deliberate malicious intent, then i'd say a bit of outrage is warranted, really. Surely that's what they're investigating, isn't it - whether or not it was deliberate?

How do you know that? Can you prove it? Obviously you can't prove it, you know that full well. Just the same as you can't prove that Steven Gerrard has ever dived. Doesn't mean it hasn't happened. I've watched it enough times to be convinced now though - although I'm well aware it's only an opinion. And has Gerrard ever been charged for diving?

I'll never have to. I've seen the video and that's proof enough for me. Morgan has a look over his shoulder to see where the player is, Morgan then lands a perfect elbow directly to Hume's head before the ball is even there for the challenge. Not forgetting neither player was even jumping for the ball. So you couldn't prove it to anyone else? No, I'd show them the video and let them make their own minds up. Fair enough. Proving intent is virtually impossible. They'd look at it and they would have to assume that, whilst being dangerous, it was accidental. Because they couldn't prove it was intentional. If they did, he'd appeal and he'd win. It's a yellow. Because the ref gave a yellow. Fucking courts and bans!

How do you know that? Can you prove it?

I'll never have to. I've seen the video and that's proof enough for me. Morgan has a look over his shoulder to see where the player is, Morgan then lands a perfect elbow directly to Hume's head before the ball is even there for the challenge. Not forgetting neither player was even jumping for the ball. So you couldn't prove it to anyone else?

Shearer could quite easily have suffered the same fate at the hands/elbows of that Grimsby centre half a few years back. Shearer's an absolute legend but he left his elbow in there loads of times. He took kickings from CH's but could look after himself and was a dirty bastard too. It's the moral outrage I'm more concerned with. How the severity of the injury alters people's perceptions of the incident. Oooooh he's fractured his skull.......burn the twat, throw the fucking key away, he should suffer the same fate, ban the cunt, fucking disgrace to the game...etc. Absolutely insane.

Morgan used his elbows as leverage and caught the lad straight in the head. It was dangerous and I've got a sneaking suspicion Morgan knew what he was doing (no-one could ever prove he meant it like). It's very unfortunate for the lad and I hope he makes a full recovery but hauling Morgan over the coals won't achieve anything. Every single CH and CF will always raise their elbows when jumping for a ball. It's a natural thing to do and every now and again there's going to be a bit of damage done to some poor sod. It's not pleasant and I feel for the lad but it happens - it's part and parcel of the game. Calling for courts/police is just ridiculous.

Bollocks. Part and parcel of the game? Yeah, of course playing football comes with a risk of getting injured, but when someone intentionally goes out to do severe damage it's a totally different story. Saying shit like it's part and parcel of the game is just letting thugs get away with their actions. And please remind me when Shearer has "done worse" than fracture someones skull and put their life in danger? Even though Shearer has got absolutely fuck all to do with this debate. How exactly would you go about proving that? Serious question.

Shearer ever fractured anyone's skull? Very nearly causing their death? How the fuck is assaulting someone by brutally bashing in their skull "all part and parcel of the game"? What a ridiculous statement, and if you think that a yellow was reasonable punishment then I'd hate to see what a player has to do to get a red card. First off, I never said yellow was a 'reasonable punishment'. The ref gave a yellow and I said it should stay a yellow. Second off, can you prove he actually MEANT to fracture his skull? Third off, Shearer kicked Neil Lennon full in the face. Should he have been banned from playing again and handed over to the courts? You're over-reacting. It was a dangerous challenge which has unfortunately left the lad with a cracked skull. He was punished by the arbiter of the game and it should be put to bed. No reason whatsoever for bringing the police/courts into it. If that was the case you'd need a dozen bobbies on the sidelines at every game of Rugby up and down the country.

Presumably you'd want the courts to prosecute him then? How long would you give him then?

Shearer's done worse than that tbf. Seems harsh but it's part and parcel of the game. Morgan's a big rough bastard but if the ref gave a yellow then it should stay a yellow. IMO of course.

Owen would have buried that.....

Individual errors by CH's will usually be punished. Cacapa made 2 today and it's cost us the game. Fulham have gone from 18th to 10th with those 3 points btw. It's so tight down there and it's going to be like that for much of the season. Just got to move on to Wigan and make sure we beat them. Disappointing result but not the end of the world.

It wouldn't be terrible but it's a very modest way of thinking imo. Our team pisses on Fulham's, on paper - i know i know. It's just such an excellent chance to pull away from the dross that we're amongst. We've seen in the last two games that when we actually play football, we're a class above the teams that are around us at the moment. I'd be satisfied with 4 points but pretty disappointed. How does that work then? Aye, doesn't really make sense that tbh. What i mean is that from a realistic point of view, it wouldn't be a bad return. But six points is far from being out of our grasp. We should win both games. With the league the way it is, drawing away and winning at home is huge. I do think we're a better team than Fulham and if the game was up here then I'd expect to win. However, they're decent at home and we're not exactly sparkling away.

It wouldn't be terrible but it's a very modest way of thinking imo. Our team pisses on Fulham's, on paper - i know i know. It's just such an excellent chance to pull away from the dross that we're amongst. We've seen in the last two games that when we actually play football, we're a class above the teams that are around us at the moment. I'd be satisfied with 4 points but pretty disappointed. How does that work then?

Well done Reade and the Mirror.

I'd be happy with 4 points from our next two games.

3-3. Higuan.