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Don't care what he's called, he's light-years ahead of Bramble! Ditto for Viduka and Sibierski. Improving the squad without spending a penny...exactly the reason why Allardyce was brought in.

Nice, easy start would be good. Fulham at home followed by a few more winnable games. Get some points on the board and gives them confidence.

That's because he picks most of his players on reputation rather than their ability. In my opinion obviously.

Doesn't bear thinking about. The further away he stays from Newcastle, the better. I'm begging this to be more shite 'journalism' . :-[

Robert LEE, Kerry DIXON Still a shit idea like...

Same argument didn't hold water a while ago when people talked about Heskey being an improvement on Ameobi. A player is either good enough for where we want to be or isn't. Young isn't a big enough improvement. Enough money has been wasted already, the club needs to buy players who are a significant improvement on what we already have. Young IS a significant improvement on Carr. I'd agree but the fact remains that while Young is average, Carr is absolutely dreadful. Neither is good enough to hold down a first team spot if we want to get to where we all want to go. In the short to medium term, we are looking at what, top 7? I reckon Young is good for that. For the kind of money talked about here, certainly. See what you're getting at but I think we should be aiming for top 4 tbh. Agree with HTL, we should be looking for a RB who's good enough to compete in a top 4 side. Luke Young isn't the answer. Yes, he'd improve us but it would mean replacing him in 2 years time with someone better. Let's just sign the better player now. I know that sounds glib as fuck but the player we need is out there and I trust Allardyce to find him. We are currently so far from a top 4 side that its laughable. Apart from Given and Owen, not one other player os capable of playing at that level properly. Its a pipe dream to want top 4 players in every position. You have to be a big club to get that, and we are far from a big club. Young woudl greatly improve our squad, and give a genuine alternative to a rapidly ageing right winger at right back. If thats a bad thing, then you must hate the rest of our squad more than i do, because they aren't good enough for the top 4 either. Never said they were tbh. Just think that we should be scouring the globe for the bloke who's better than Young to take us back into the top 4. Not that long ago since we finished top 4 you know! I couldn't give a toss how long ago since we finished top 4 - twice out of the last 10 seasons, the last being 4 ago - you clearly can't think the rest of the squad are up to it. Like signing Duff last season, its the same thing - wrong priority. I'd rather take a RB good enough for the top 7 (which should be our short/medium term place) and get similar players in other positions, rather than pretend we can attract top top players. We have, in my opinion, 7 or 8 players who can comfortably play at that level. Lets get the rest in, and build from there. If you can read my mind then read this.................................. Get that? Goodnight mate.

Same argument didn't hold water a while ago when people talked about Heskey being an improvement on Ameobi. A player is either good enough for where we want to be or isn't. Young isn't a big enough improvement. Enough money has been wasted already, the club needs to buy players who are a significant improvement on what we already have. Young IS a significant improvement on Carr. I'd agree but the fact remains that while Young is average, Carr is absolutely dreadful. Neither is good enough to hold down a first team spot if we want to get to where we all want to go. In the short to medium term, we are looking at what, top 7? I reckon Young is good for that. For the kind of money talked about here, certainly. See what you're getting at but I think we should be aiming for top 4 tbh. Agree with HTL, we should be looking for a RB who's good enough to compete in a top 4 side. Luke Young isn't the answer. Yes, he'd improve us but it would mean replacing him in 2 years time with someone better. Let's just sign the better player now. I know that sounds glib as fuck but the player we need is out there and I trust Allardyce to find him. We are currently so far from a top 4 side that its laughable. Apart from Given and Owen, not one other player os capable of playing at that level properly. Its a pipe dream to want top 4 players in every position. You have to be a big club to get that, and we are far from a big club. Young woudl greatly improve our squad, and give a genuine alternative to a rapidly ageing right winger at right back. If thats a bad thing, then you must hate the rest of our squad more than i do, because they aren't good enough for the top 4 either. Never said they were tbh. Just think that we should be scouring the globe for the bloke who's better than Young to take us back into the top 4. Not that long ago since we finished top 4 you know!

Well the whole world was speculating at the time that it was. There's no way West Ham United could have attracted both of them without either a) going bankrupt or b) it not being legit. We knew of the company's ownership of both of the players from the offset. Fine. But who's 'we'? If you mean the whole world then they're bang to rights. New owners or not - they've broken the rules and should be punished accordingly. Not with a poxy fine. But it's too little, too late. Fair enough they should have been punished for it with a points deduction but that deduction should have came in September, October, November, heck even Christmas time. Sheffield United can't blame their entire failings on what happened on the last day of the Premiership season. If Tevez hadn't have scored those goals, Sheffield United wouldn't have complained. Notice how Wigan aren't speaking out that much? because they didn't go down. Fact is, they should have spoken out when Tevez was not making an impact on the team, not only because he started to. They're simply looking for an excuse for why they went down. With all due respect - "If Tevez hadn't scored those goals"...West Ham wouldn't have got as many points and gone down. He played when he shouldn't have. They won points they weren't entitled to. They should have had points docked but they didn't. I'm not disputing that they shouldn't have been deducted points, but it should have happened months ago. It's too late now, Sheff Utd are clutching at straws. In which case you'd accept that they have a legitimate grievance. They aren't "clutching at straws", they're fucking bang on correct. West Ham garnered points by playing a player they didn't own. FACT. They admitted it. They should have been stripped of every one of those points.

Well the whole world was speculating at the time that it was. There's no way West Ham United could have attracted both of them without either a) going bankrupt or b) it not being legit. We knew of the company's ownership of both of the players from the offset. Fine. But who's 'we'? If you mean the whole world then they're bang to rights. New owners or not - they've broken the rules and should be punished accordingly. Not with a poxy fine. But it's too little, too late. Fair enough they should have been punished for it with a points deduction but that deduction should have came in September, October, November, heck even Christmas time. Sheffield United can't blame their entire failings on what happened on the last day of the Premiership season. If Tevez hadn't have scored those goals, Sheffield United wouldn't have complained. Notice how Wigan aren't speaking out that much? because they didn't go down. Fact is, they should have spoken out when Tevez was not making an impact on the team, not only because he started to. They're simply looking for an excuse for why they went down. With all due respect - "If Tevez hadn't scored those goals"...West Ham wouldn't have got as many points and gone down. He played when he shouldn't have. They won points they weren't entitled to. They should have had points docked but they didn't.

You answered your own question with your third sentence. I think that's a record tbh.

Well the whole world was speculating at the time that it was. There's no way West Ham United could have attracted both of them without either a) going bankrupt or b) it not being legit. We knew of the company's ownership of both of the players from the offset. Fine. But who's 'we'? If you mean the whole world then they're bang to rights. New owners or not - they've broken the rules and should be punished accordingly. Not with a poxy fine.

Get in the fucking corner. Go on. No turning around.

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What a fantastic name as well. http://daniel.tipos.com.br/media/315/20050424-vnr_10.jpg Blatantly the coolest guy ever. I can imagine St. James' in a chorus of 'All you need is Love'. Love will tear you apart. Blatantly.

Doesn't strike me as a player who'd adapt to the Premier League. Going forward he looks good but is poor defensively.

Same argument didn't hold water a while ago when people talked about Heskey being an improvement on Ameobi. A player is either good enough for where we want to be or isn't. Young isn't a big enough improvement. Enough money has been wasted already, the club needs to buy players who are a significant improvement on what we already have. Young IS a significant improvement on Carr. I'd agree but the fact remains that while Young is average, Carr is absolutely dreadful. Neither is good enough to hold down a first team spot if we want to get to where we all want to go. In the short to medium term, we are looking at what, top 7? I reckon Young is good for that. For the kind of money talked about here, certainly. See what you're getting at but I think we should be aiming for top 4 tbh. Agree with HTL, we should be looking for a RB who's good enough to compete in a top 4 side. Luke Young isn't the answer. Yes, he'd improve us but it would mean replacing him in 2 years time with someone better. Let's just sign the better player now. I know that sounds glib as fuck but the player we need is out there and I trust Allardyce to find him.

The sheer amount of cash we'd be committing to this transfer would be mind-blowing. A ridiculous transfer fee, signing-on fee, basic wage and bonus system would be a given and the risk we'd be taking would be vast. Wouldn't touch him with a bargepole. Canny player but definitely on the way down.

Same argument didn't hold water a while ago when people talked about Heskey being an improvement on Ameobi. A player is either good enough for where we want to be or isn't. Young isn't a big enough improvement. Enough money has been wasted already, the club needs to buy players who are a significant improvement on what we already have. Young IS a significant improvement on Carr. I'd agree but the fact remains that while Young is average, Carr is absolutely dreadful. Neither is good enough to hold down a first team spot if we want to get to where we all want to go.

The only flaw in your proposition is the fact Roy Keane actually has eyes.

Eight fucking million? As in £8,000,000m? The world's gone mad.

The only things i want to hear from Owen are the following: 1) I'm delighted to be signing this 2 year contract extension and look forward to getting this club back where it belongs. Or 2) I've asked my agent to find me another club. I'm unhappy here and want to move to a club that meets my ambitions. Got to be honest, I don't really care which one it is. He either commits his future to us or he decides to go and gives us a chance to scrape back some money on the deal. Offer him the contract and see what his reaction is.

Bristol Rovers just equalised against Shrewsbury. Currently 1- 1. edit: thread title changed.

Got to go with Keegan too. Lifted the whole city twice, once as a player and once as a manager. He oversaw us from possible relegation to Division 3 to Champions, 3rd, 6th and 2nd. The ground changed beyond belief as did the playing staff. We are where we are due to him. I consider him breaking the world transfer fee record in signing Shearer his parting gift. That said, Shearer was a absolute monster for us in his 10 years here. Missed about 2 seasons through injury and still managed to average over 20 a season in his 10 years here. I still laugh that Man Utd fans hate him even after he's retired. They know what they missed out on.

Exactly. The whole Tevez/Mascherano thing stank at the time. Should have been investigated and dealt with straight away.

Got a massive amount of sympathy with Sheffield UNITED over the whole issue but I can't help but think that by doing this, they're going to antagonise the Premier League even more. They'll just dig their heels further in and refuse to reverse the decision purely out of principle. Still think west Ham should have had points docked but, as Dave says, they left it far, far too late to decide the punishment.