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Evidently been leaned on by sponsors and crumpled. Preferred him as Schrodinger's fascist, but fully expect him to now give an interview to a Lazio fanzine or somethig where he tries to downplay this statement, befoer coming back to the English media to downplay that statement.

so simple yet so good

:lol: Or 'Oh Oh Oh he's fascist, you knooooow. Paoli Di Canio" *Benito Di Canio

"At least Di Canio is honest about his fascist views " Are you a fascist Paolo? "Uh, I do not have to answer that because there was a statement and it was very clear and this is not the houses of parliament and I don't have to talk about politics" So was that yes or no "IS RIDICULOUS! IS RIDICULOUS FOR ME! I DO NOT HAVE TO TALK ABOUT, IS RIDICULOUS"

By the end of that thread on RTG someone was fantisising about us being docked points for wearing Hitler taches and doing Nazi salutes and how it could save them from relegation.

A compilation from the Sunderland thread: You're just a sad fascist bastard, sad fascist baaaastard We know what you are, we know what you aaaare, Paolo Di Canio, we know what you are Mussolini, was a wanker, was a wanker... Does Herr Flick know that you're here? Does Herr Flick know that you're here? (Heading for victory) Same old Fascists, always losing You're going down like the Regia Marina (At the away support to the tune of La donna è mobile - uh, better known as 'You stole my stereo") What would your grandad say? What would your grandad say?

"You're just a Sad Mackem Fascist!" I have visions of him throwing a wobbler at "Mussolini, was a wanker, was a wanker..."

RTG reaction http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=771564

IIRC some mackems found out his personal details and posted them online. How is this done btw? Seen it before on forums/Twitter. It's known as doxing and how you go about it depends on what info you start with, really http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/what-is-doxing-and-how-does-it-affect-your-privacy-makeuseof-explains/

Waded into this one, last response I got was "I'd rather be a fascist scumbag than a Geordie" Sums it up

There was some outrage. And people probably said "where was the outrage when Barclays sponsored the league?" And when people questioned that it would have been "where was the outrage when murdoch got his claws into the game?" You can't have a negative opinion on anything as long as someone can find something dubious you've not devoted exactly as many words and minutes to.

The fact he's been given so many chances to say he's not a fascist and refused (obviously not wanting to upset his old Lazio mates) makes the statement about it being 'insulting' to suggest he might be look pretty stupid.

Well no, aside from living in Minority Report there's no way of knowing if other managers or players secretly want to Nazi salute, racially abuse or stab to death, so we'll just have to judge people on their actions.

To turn it around, that Greek lad who made a straight arm salute ONCE has been banned from international football for life and his career is bssucally over. Where's that level of condemnation for PDC?

The latest trope on RTG is threads like Subject: I have Jewish blood... Post: And I'm delighted to have Di Canio here! Subject: I'm an old school socialist... Post: And Di Canio is my new God, every time I think about him I weep tears of joy! Subject: My grandparents were tortured to death by Mussolini's thugs... Post: And I just gone and got an exact copy of Di Canio's tattoo on my face!

I can't believe I'm even having the conversation Every time there's a scandal about bungs in the premier league, or someone punches a fan, or someone makes a racist comment on the pitch, or there's a terrible refereeing decision or tackle are we going to say "How come you're not talking about this similar incident between Shrewsbury and Crawley? WHERE WAS THE OUTRAGE? How come the papers are reporting on that and not this? Isn't Tom Eves also a role model for children? Why are you victimising this guy? Huh? HUH?" Something being allowed in the premier league makes a bigger statement about how acceptable it is in football than the same thing happening in Blue Square North. Yes?

Just realised I've got an AS Roma scarf in my loft, might dig it out for the derby. Song suggestions? I think "What would your grandad say" would stir things up nicely if directed at the away support.

I genuinely don't even understand why this question has to be asked. There'd be more outrage if Nick Griffin became a member of cabinet then if he became MP. There'd be more outrage on here if a jihadi sympathiser was the CEO of Amazon than if he was the boss of a haulage firm in Kent. There'd be more outrage on here if someone with extreme views took over North Tyneside council than if they took over somewhere in London or France. Proximity and the high-profile or otherwise nature of the position, it's no real mystery. We've had a thread on the mackems sicne the board was opened, go have a look in the Swindon thread to see if it was discussed there. as so it's not the principle then, it's the heightened level of publicity that's bothering people and the fact it's sunderland just wanted to know No, it is exactly the principle. Being a manager at the top level is an honour and makes you a much more public figure. Giving someone a job at the very top of their profession validates their beliefs far more than if they're at a lower level. But you knew that, unless you didn't read my post.

But you can't criticise them for that! It's journalism, not politics. What do their views and actions have to do with anything? If you express your opinion on their behaviour you're basically oppressing them, stop it. How is journalism and politics not directly linked? The profession was created and continues to be used to influence public opinion! SAFC is a privately owned company and they can ban whoever they like from their press conferences. Once again, I don't deny that the club has brought this s*** storm on itself. Whether they intended to do that or not, they're now scrambling to try and deal with it. As long as they do that without breaking any laws, then so what? Football influences public opinion! It probably influences public opinion more than every leaflet put through every bloody door in the country! The very fact that this debate is going on is evidence that it's not 'so what', people have a pretty non-controversial opinion that they don't want a fascist manager in the premier league and people are trying to imply they can't hold that opinion because it somehow infringes on the rights of others for reasons I can't quite pin down. Paolo Di Canio has the right to be a fascist, other people have the right to believe he's a f***ing c*** for holding those views and they will continue to say so. Not going to disagree with that at all. However, PL or L2, it shouldn't matter imo. He'll be in as much of a role model position to kids growing up in Sunderland as he was for kids growing up in Swindon. But there's a lot of kids that follow the premier league and know the name and personality of every manager in it. How many could name Swindon's current manager, and know what kind of person he is to be allowed to hold that position?

Hope other fans jump on the bandwagon and start giving him shit. Sadly they've got Chelsea next and they like a bit of right-wing - but fascism has always conflicted far-right hooligans. On the one hand they admire the strident nationalism, on the other they want to glorify England's war victories against that very ideology. Hopefully his West Ham links will push it to the latter and they'll go for the whole "10 fascist bombers" route. That's the stick the Sun is using to beat him with today. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4869485/War-veterans-boycott-fascist-Sunderland-manager-Paolo-Di-Canio.html

But you can't criticise them for that! It's journalism, not politics. What do their views and actions have to do with anything? If you express your opinion on their behaviour you're basically oppressing them, stop it. How is journalism and politics not directly linked? The profession was created and continues to be used to influence public opinion! SAFC is a privately owned company and they can ban whoever they like from their press conferences. Once again, I don't deny that the club has brought this shit storm on itself. Whether they intended to do that or not, they're now scrambling to try and deal with it. As long as they do that without breaking any laws, then so what? Football influences public opinion! It probably influences public opinion more than every leaflet put through every bloody door in the country! The very fact that this debate is going on is evidence that it's not 'so what', people have a pretty non-controversial opinion that they don't want a fascist manager in the premier league and people are trying to imply they can't hold that opinion because it somehow infringes on the rights of others for reasons I can't quite pin down. Paolo Di Canio has the right to be a fascist, other people have the right to believe he's a fucking cunt for holding those views, that they don't want him in the club or the league or the sport and they will continue to say so.

I genuinely don't even understand why this question has to be asked. There'd be more outrage if Nick Griffin became a member of cabinet then if he became MP. There'd be more outrage on here if a jihadi sympathiser was the CEO of Amazon than if he was the boss of a haulage firm in Kent. There'd be more outrage on here if someone with extreme views took over North Tyneside council than if they took over somewhere in London or France. Proximity and the high-profile or otherwise nature of the position, it's no real mystery. We've had a thread on the mackems sicne the board was opened, go have a look in the Swindon thread to see if it was discussed there.

But you can't criticise them for that! It's journalism, not politics. What do their views and actions have to do with anything? If you express your opinion on their behaviour you're basically oppressing them, stop it.