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Not a single poster has said that. I'll admit I haven't read every single post since the appointment, but out all the posts I have seen, no one has seriously said that. Not sure if serious...

PVC might not even be there for the derby at this rate Can't believe some of the hand wringing that's still going on "Won't somebody please think of the fascists" http://i.imgur.com/JVL1fCj.jpg

The Depache Mode chant of "Racist Bastard" we regaled Suarez with is easily modified into "Fascist Bastard".

Decency still exists on the SMB. That's a cracking post, has to be the best post ever made on there. Don't agree. People seriously needs to separate football from politics. FWIW I think Di Canio should have a look at himself if he supports the belief and firm stance that Benito Mussolini apparently had... The opportunist that he was and the left-wing to right-wing switch is really a firm stand. The man clearly knows nothing about his supposed beliefs and should have a look into history books. We seriously need to thrive for football free from politics, it's beyond ridiculous at times. Di Canio is an ignorant person, but I can bet my house that this man will be as happy as ever if Di Canio wins them a trophy ( won't happen ). I'd also like to thank Cajun and TT for getting me to see the great enjoyment that this is. Di Canio was the one that brought his political beliefs into football, not the other way round. His actions while at Lazio were a disgrace and he was rightly banned for bringing the game into disrepute. Also you can't sperate politics from most things in life, football isn't a exception. First of all, him bringing it in or not, my point is that people is caring more about his political views than his managerial abilities. As for separating politics from most things in life you've must never have played any sports. When you walk into the pitch, you don't care if the other man is a socialist sympathizer or a right-wing extremist. All you care about is winning. That's what sports is about, it's entertainment. Would you refuse to watch a movie if the director said he had fascist views? Sports is entertainment, deal with it. I understand that it's hard to separate politics from most things in life, I'm just saying that people should thrive for it. Obviously that would only happen in an ideal world. Eh? Football and politics are intrinsically linked. Historically, yes absolutely. But it's sickening. And I for one was hoping that we'd seen the end of that link with football becoming a global sport. Disagree with that, I think it would be very bland. You know the type of person who follows Chelsea, you know the type of person that follows Liverpool, a region's politics is integral to its identity Please enlighten me, don't really get what you mean? (serious question). It's more than just 22 blokes running around on TV in sportswear, isn't it? The people in the crowd largely didn't pick the club they're following out of a hat or because they like the colour of their strip, it's part of their cultural identity. El Classico isn't just about who's got the best football team now or in the past, it's inherently political.

Decency still exists on the SMB. That's a cracking post, has to be the best post ever made on there. Don't agree. People seriously needs to separate football from politics. FWIW I think Di Canio should have a look at himself if he supports the belief and firm stance that Benito Mussolini apparently had... The opportunist that he was and the left-wing to right-wing switch is really a firm stand. The man clearly knows nothing about his supposed beliefs and should have a look into history books. We seriously need to thrive for football free from politics, it's beyond ridiculous at times. Di Canio is an ignorant person, but I can bet my house that this man will be as happy as ever if Di Canio wins them a trophy ( won't happen ). I'd also like to thank Cajun and TT for getting me to see the great enjoyment that this is. Di Canio was the one that brought his political beliefs into football, not the other way round. His actions while at Lazio were a disgrace and he was rightly banned for bringing the game into disrepute. Also you can't sperate politics from most things in life, football isn't a exception. First of all, him bringing it in or not, my point is that people is caring more about his political views than his managerial abilities. As for separating politics from most things in life you've must never have played any sports. When you walk into the pitch, you don't care if the other man is a socialist sympathizer or a right-wing extremist. All you care about is winning. That's what sports is about, it's entertainment. Would you refuse to watch a movie if the director said he had fascist views? Sports is entertainment, deal with it. I understand that it's hard to separate politics from most things in life, I'm just saying that people should thrive for it. Obviously that would only happen in an ideal world. Eh? Football and politics are intrinsically linked. Historically, yes absolutely. But it's sickening. And I for one was hoping that we'd seen the end of that link with football becoming a global sport. Disagree with that, I think it would be very bland. You know the type of person who follows Chelsea, you know the type of person that follows Liverpool, a region's politics is integral to its identity

"Don't bring politics into football!" whines man who whipped off his shirt to expose Mussolini tattoos and fascist-saluted the crowd when playing left-wing or Jewish-linked teams. (Not an Onion article)

So you're putting Di Canio ahead of the Durham Miners' Association? Fuck me lengthways. What the fuck has happened to you lot? It's like you've all caught scouse.

Only on the internet could "I don't like fascists" be seen as a controversial statement

Basically him saying it's offensive to slag him off for being a fascist, followed by Implying it's insulting to call someone a fascist, basically doing exactly what he was complaining about. Ace.

Did he really just use the line of "I've got black friends"?

An anti-facist or anti-racist banner at SJP for the derby would stir the pot nicely. Obviously not explicitly directed at Di Canio, just fiegn ignorance and say it's our own version of their Nelson Mandella day or something. Would goad him or their fans into kicking off about it and make them look even worse

True. The term "fascist" is seen differently by different people as we've seen on here. Wikipaedia has this - "The word fascist is sometimes used to denigrate people, institutions, or groups that would not describe themselves as ideologically fascist, and that may not fall within the formal definition of the word." Thats been my view of the word. Extremist political views, right OR left But that's not how Di Canio using it. He IS using the formal definition when he self identifies as a fascist, not the kind of usage where you call a bus driver a fascist for not changing your fiver.

what does? If you equate fascism with racism. Of course there are lots of aspects of fascism that have nothing to do with race which people take issue with anyway.

It depends if you think the fascist position on nationalism, global expansion and ethnic identity are racist or not, doesn't it.

Just because people tend to call parking wardens or whatever fascists it doesn't mean the dictionary definition becomes just someone who orders you about, man 'Well my neighbour's a Nazi but that could just mean he's very picky about spelling"

Was reading the Celtic forum and they seem deeply divided about Di Canio. Guess it could go either way. And they have it right. DiCanio's got a volatile image. Always going to rile more than he gets adherents I was delighted with his appointment from a purely selfish view as a Newcastle fan. But the OTT response and soap box ranting has amazed me. thankfully, some have been doing the p*ss taking route and slowly that'll take over from the strutting orator types. This is just too good to allow to be bogged down in pompous lecturing. By deeply divided I don't mean they're internally conflicted, I mean that half of them think he's a legend and half of them think he's a Nazi cunt.

DiCanio - just when you didn't think RTG couldn't get any stupider... Actually, Franco was more "stylish" than killing them openly. They just....disappeared. PolPot on the other hand....Leftie fascists. No style. Mountain of skulls time. But I wasn't aware DiCanio was in the process of organizing a red and white army assault with tanks and Russian-made fighters etc. Aren't some of us getting a teensy weensie bit carried away, here ? Fascism is violently opposed to socialism and communism. You seem to be confusing fascism with totalitarianism, which is an aaspect shared by both the extreme right and extreme left. And the difference in body count is ? Actually fascism is just extreme politics. Remember what the Nazis called themselves ? Not "National Fascist Party" but "National SOCIALISTS" But see ? How the f*** is this football ? Its football, but not as we know it, captain ? Lets keep football and politics FAR apart. It's not just a synonym for extreme politics of whichever persuasion, it's a very specific ideology. Have a quick scan of Wikipedia. As for the Nazis, again, you don't seem to understand the difference between socialism and national socialism. Does this mean the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy? It's right there in the name, after all.

Was reading the Celtic forum and they seem deeply divided about Di Canio. Guess it could go either way.

DiCanio - just when you didn't think RTG couldn't get any stupider... Actually, Franco was more "stylish" than killing them openly. They just....disappeared. PolPot on the other hand....Leftie fascists. No style. Mountain of skulls time. But I wasn't aware DiCanio was in the process of organizing a red and white army assault with tanks and Russian-made fighters etc. Aren't some of us getting a teensy weensie bit carried away, here ? Fascism is violently opposed to socialism and communism, along with liberalism and liberal democracy. You seem to be confusing fascism with totalitarianism, which is indeed a policy shared by both the extreme right and extreme left.

Dear me.. To be fair, he's being facetious. He's saying if people are so convinced PDC's fascist views aren't racist, will they be willing to do the fascist salute? Obviously they won't, which forces them to answer the question of why not.

Yeah, who knows, it could be a Golden Dawn for them.

Uh http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2144433/Paulo-di-Canio-race-storm-sparks-FA-investigation.html

Di Canio's a fascist, They're always losing wars, And when his wife meets Pardew, He annexes her drawers.

Very mixed reaction to the suggestion a few months ago http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=763970 Sure a few in that thread will have changed their tune. I see our old friend Randy Savage agrees that he's a "fool and a rabid self-publicist." and "No self-respecting club should entertain him" Be interesting to watch the about face... Lots of them slagging him off here as well http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=723984

Good timing http://antifascistnetwork.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/sunderland-officail.jpg?w=510&h=715