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Main headline on the back page of the Mirror is that we're only taking 900 or so down to Everton, is there really nothing more important in the world of sport this morning?

I would say Carr coming back would be pretty indisputable proof of the non-existence of a higher being. There's nothing to say the higher being couldn't be a right cunt.

The fact we lost points while we had injury problems will be little comfort if we end up firmly in a relegation scrap, we'll never know how we would have done with a fully fit squad but that's neither here nor there really - we've still dropped the points. Also, have you just written us off against Everton already?

Worrying to see teams like West Brom, Hull and Wigan picking up points on a regular basis, last season there were about 4 or 5 teams who were going all out for the drop, which settled the nerves even during really poor spells of form.

What did it say? Lots. The statement they made, and a bit dismissing a fans buyout etc. Also a pictoral taking the piss out of the supposed fight between Keegan and Llambias. I didn't read it properly tbf, but there was obviously some work and money put into them - colour printing on glossy paper and some decent editing. There was an application form asking for a tenner too, but I couldn't see what they wanted it for. Yeah, it looked very slick. Could have done with a proof-read though.

Sounds like they're putting words in his mouth with the headline, they've asked if he's pleased and he's said "Am I pleased? No, The club is still up for sale and we haven't got a permanent manager so I wouldn't say pleased." That's different from saying he's not pleased at the appointment, he's saying of course he's not 'pleased' with the current situation.

Terry Venables turned us down man, we were never going to get anyone fans were going to be impressed with - and if we did get someone average then the new owners might be tempted to stick with them. He's someone with management experience who's willing to take the job, and on an agreed short term basis at that. We're lucky we got anyone.

If we end up giving a transfer budget to Kinnear then we have much bigger problems to worry about.

Dignity, self respect, wants to protect himself from a negative image. Wsan't he quoted as saying he's enjoying himself just recently? Must have had a poor life if he's enjoying this. Maybe he's one of the blokes you read about who pay escots to stamp on their bollocks in stilletoes and that.

I'm fine with this appointment to be honest - I'd rather take Kinnear over what's in the box, especially when the box could contain another 3 weeks of running around trying to find someone the fans wouldn't mind.

Allow me - at least we've got a f***ing manager now. I dont know anything about him to be honest what was he like as a manager? Well it wasn't pretty but he massively over-achieved with a bunch of dirty lumbering cloggers at Wimbledon, although his later roles as manager were pretty unremarkable.

Allow me - at least we've got a fucking manager now.

Worst case is that we can't find a manager because people see it as not worth the hassle when they're going to be shown to door when we're sold anyway, so we end up becoming adrift at the bottom of the table, lowering our value in the eyes of buyers but not of Ashley.

We know through first-hand experience that trying to second guess the willingness to spend is a complete waste of time. Shepherd had to borrow, but normally spent. Ashley is a billionaire, but is as tight as a nun's chuff. One thing I would like is for whoever buys us - individual, business or group of investors - to have one person who is clearly in charge, a figurehead and their ambassador to the fans and media (ie not just a spokesperson). It's easy for a group of faceless folk to hide in the background and shrug their shoulders when the club needs a cash injection or is unhappy with the direction, pass the buck and share the blame. It's a lot harder for an individual, as Ashley's found out.

It's going to be difficult to find out what collateral any buyer has, even more difficult to find out how much of that collateral is tied up, or invested in things that are one bad stockmarket day away from becoming next to worthless, and impossible to say how much of that collateral they're willing to risk in the transfer market.

Serious question, from what we know about NVA how do you know they will not improve the club? Show me what collateral they have then. Would you welcome a supporters buy out who use what they have to actually buy, and left with nothing to invest ? How does that improve us ? I'd imagine the "We're looking at how much we can get together for the purchase" is to do with negotiations. Saying "We have £600m, how much will you sell for?" is not very good business sense. Ashley is a billionare and we're far from buying a team of superstars.

They're an unknown quantity, but then I think pretty much anyone is going to be the same - they're saying all the right things about being big football fans, wanting to invest money in the club for long term sucess etc, but any buyer is going to say that. The proof of the pudding will be in the eating. In spite of the supposed anti-cockney feeling amongst newcastle fans I don't remember anyone kicking up a fuss about Ashley buying us out until he started to fuck things up, no-one wrote him off as a dodgy cockney barrow-boy who was going to sell us down the river until he showed his hand and it was lacking.

Serious question, from what we know about NVA how do you know they will not improve the club?

Beggers can't be choosers, we need someone with managerial experience who's willing to do a short term job and we need them yesterday. We're not going to get a manager that anyone would ideally want at the helm, and if we did we'd be losing them anyway when the new buyer comes in and wants their own man in charge.

How the fuck is our loss to Spurs the main sports story on the news this morning, with Citeh being dumped out by Brighton a mumbled footnote at the end?

Only came on to look at this thread because I've been told there's "strong rumours" that he's been found dead by one lad who works for a local paper and a lad who does footy photography.

What's wrong with 'Newcastle With Attitude'? Straight Outta Jesmond, what a song. Nigerians With Assests

I keep reading NVA as NWA and it's making me feel like an enormous racist.

I've got time to nip home and get my 6-a-side boots, reckon I should give them a ring?

"Do you think the players learned anything from that?" "Couldn't care less." Apparently after the penalty save at the end the mackems went and hung about in the centre circle because they didn't want to go and face Keane