Dokko

Got a link mate? Sounds good. Now time for 4 big defensive signings.

All still vastly over paid. All I'm saying is that we cant complain about a players wages until we hear some reliable estimates on the actual pay package. I've got it from a good private source that Dyer is on £65kpw after Souness gave him his new deal. That's about £35kpw too much imo. Considering the insurers pay out when he is injured, I'd say that what he has provided us when fit has probably been worth the £60K-65K a week. He has insured to pay himself a further 50% more for when he's injured. He makes more money on the sidelines. Worth £65kpw this season? Fuk off man, and this was a good season for him. Good season because he stayed pretty much fit, and scored 7 in 25ish games despite being in a shit team. He was a very good and very important player under Robson despite rarely scoring, and his contribution, when fit, under Souness led to two good cup runs. Just wait for him to start flying next season. That 50% extra when injured would never happen. Sounds like one of those wage myths people use to get on the back of a player. You'd like to think.

Source please. Club records, Chronicle, Times, Guardian. I've provided the source on Babayaro so many times to you, totally ignored, that it is not worth taking the time to find it again. Are the Chronicle, Times and Guardian not classed as the media? I should probably rephrase that. Shortly before a good player signs for us, the tabloids increase the offered wage by £20,000. Then,when these players are signed, we discover that it is all exaggeration from London/Top4 biased press. Then, as soon as a player starts underperforming, people seem to remember the prespeculated wage, and not the wage reported shortly after the player had signed. You wait, we'll get told if Edmilson signs that he is on £60K, then after an injury setback, he'llsuddenly find himself back on £120K. I full agree that does happen. It totally fuks me off n all.

All still vastly over paid. All I'm saying is that we cant complain about a players wages until we hear some reliable estimates on the actual pay package. I've got it from a good private source that Dyer is on £65kpw after Souness gave him his new deal. That's about £35kpw too much imo. Considering the insurers pay out when he is injured, I'd say that what he has provided us when fit has probably been worth the £60K-65K a week. He has insured to pay himself a further 50% more for when he's injured. He makes more money on the sidelines. Worth £65kpw this season? Fuk off man, and this was a good season for him.

Apparently as soon as the U21 Euro Championships finish were going to immediately sign up Baines from Wigan.

All still vastly over paid. All I'm saying is that we cant complain about a players wages until we hear some reliable estimates on the actual pay package. I've got it from a good private source that Dyer is on £65kpw after Souness gave him his new deal. That's about £35kpw too much imo.

All still vastly over paid.

Was hoping a fee would come up, but none yet, anything over £6m would probably put end to Martins move.

Just shows how lazy we all are, it took 17 pages of discussion for any of us to even bother finding out his contract length!

It will all end in tears. Mark my words! Only if the Tevez verdict is over turned, which it wont now so near to the new season. WHU will keep spending at an enormous rate. Even with an average manager they'll still compete for 5th this season, next season with more spending, well we've got a lot of work to do.

Mascherano after 6 or so good games for Liverpool? Lets hope he's better at playing against Spanish teams than he is Italian then.

Dyer can't shoot, can't cross, can't tackle, can't run at full pace without tearing his hamstrings and costs far too much money for his talent. He's a decent passer, and very good at moving the ball forward when he can be arsed. But overall he's a bad apple, a poor player, and part of the old NUFC we should be leaving behind.

So all this time he wasn't even on a free transfer. Dear god.

I'm aware of that, but fact is, he is a CB and still played ahead of him. Aye because Edmilson is strictly a DM! He is a CB who cannot defend properly, therefore the only place he can play without costing goals is further forward.

Geremi all but done and this guy coming in means the very end of the road for Carr. Sweet bliss.

The only club in the world who'll pay money for a free transfer.

I wouldn't bet on it sounds like we want him, and to be honest he'll have signed this time next week Na, i reckon this one is dead in the water now, especially after a fee is being talked about. But you never know, the fee's, injuries and the player himself just all adds up to a big no for me. I can't believe were pursuing this anymore.

Seriously not worth putting on.

Sounds like were about to have a very lucky escape.

So is this a done deal then? Canny signing for free, not sure i'd want us to commit money to him, but we need some physical presense and although not very tall hes as strong as an ox and a good alternative to Solano at RB, although i cannot for the life of me see SA bringing in a proper RB now, its Geremi, Solano & Dyer in his plans, meaning i think wingbacks might be coming into our style of play

I should of put him up tbf, forgot all about him and his little attitude problem last season.

I wouldn't worry, i'm sure Babayaro & Carr will lead the race to being the most unwanted player in this poll, i'd be shocked if one of them doesn't win it!

You'd get rid of our top scoring striker instead of shipping out Ramage/Carr/Babayaro?! Jesus! What can we possibly gain in transfers from selling any of those and what harm can come from them training with the squad and playing in the reserve team? Selling Martins from 13 million would allow us to buy players more suitable to how Sam usually plays and the way football is evolving. We don't need the money, or has the tale over just passed by by this summer? Martins is one the last people the club should be selling, we should be re-signing him. With the right coaching, decent tactics and motivated team mates we could see a £20m+ Martins in no time. Well, not so sure about the Ashley pumping in millions Abramovich style myself. He seems more of a careful business man than anything else, but then again what the hell do I know? You do have some points and I guess it all comes down to how Sam sees the team and how he wants to play. No one is talking Roman style, just sensible buys, and the ability to raise funds when needed to build a team. I think selling Martins purely for financial reasons is a daft idea, a mistake that will haunt us especially if its to another EPL club. If a big triggers the clause then fair enough its out of our hands, but that fella is raw potential, 22 fast as anyone in the EPL, powerhouse with a cracking shot, full of tricks but is let down through his intelligence on the pitch. That can be vastly improved, GR couldn't do that for him but a proper setup could squeeze a lot more out of Martins than we got last season, and last season we got a decent amount of goals and some of our best memories when he was playing well.

You'd get rid of our top scoring striker instead of shipping out Ramage/Carr/Babayaro?! Jesus! What can we possibly gain in transfers from selling any of those and what harm can come from them training with the squad and playing in the reserve team? Selling Martins from 13 million would allow us to buy players more suitable to how Sam usually plays and the way football is evolving. We don't need the money, or has the tale over just passed by by this summer? Martins is one the last people the club should be selling, we should be re-signing him. With the right coaching, decent tactics and motivated team mates we could see a £20m+ Martins in no time.

Ramage doesn't come into consideration for me since he costs nowt and it doesn't matter if we keep him on. Carr & Babayaro are just a big a liability but they both cost a fee and both are getting 10 times his wages each. But only one winner for me, Dyer. Everything that has been wrong about this club can be found in this talentless overpaid runt. The sooner we leave him behind the sooner we move on to better things.