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Maybe he does. Its just annoying to take a £5m loss on a player who almost got there considering the £9m loss we'll take on Luque who got nowhere near. Add that to the £4m loss on Boumsong, the £4m loss on Owen already, the £'s lost on signings before all them, am just sick of seeing our money go to nothing all the fuking time. I have in the back of my head we sign him up on 3year deal, has a decent season and we sell him for £2m like OB, but its not going to happen is it?

If we've got "no money" to spend, I'll eat my hat. EDIT: People are quick to forget the incoming influx of new TV money, allied with the fact we generally always spend decent money in the summer. Am not forgetting, I just doubt the board will release it for players, no doubt Freddy has seen a nice new Villa he wants in Barbados and he'll find a new ingenious way for taking that money out of the club in a big bonus to him or another member of his family. I'm always wary of reacting to posts that I cannot see as anything other than nonsense/wind-ups, so shall I leave this for one of your usuals to chomp? I have usuals?

£3.8m if I'm not mistaken 3.8 is correct, dunno where the 6 came from! Fuking just makes it up as he goes along

If we could get both then bye bye Bramble, but i doubt we'll get either.

I disagree, if you give Titus a new contract, all you are doing is condoning/accepting a level of standard that will see us continue to languish in mediocrity. We do need bodies, but I am sure there are better/with more potential that will not cost stupid money. I would have hoped that we had the scouting network/management that could identify those players - most other teams seem to be able to. I see both sides, and in all honesty i wouldn't be that disappointed if we kept him or released him, i just think with the small squad we have, and the shit board we also have keeping him might be a good idea. We sold Boumsong and replaced him with who? So we release Bramble and replace him with Huntington no doubt. Might as well keep him.

If we've got "no money" to spend, I'll eat my hat. EDIT: People are quick to forget the incoming influx of new TV money, allied with the fact we generally always spend decent money in the summer. Am not forgetting, I just doubt the board will release it for players, no doubt Freddy has seen a nice new Villa he wants in Barbados and he'll find a new ingenious way for taking that money out of the club in a big bonus to him or another member of his family.

Taylor is more of a liability than Titus at the moment. I'd still offer Titus a contract and have him as back-up, we cannot afford to lose another body in the summer for nowt if we've got no money to spend.

Thought we paid less than £4m for him?

All of them, as in: "Out of all of the current crop of NUFC players, not a single one is fit to fill Peter's boots". A crying shame, like. blueyes.gif :'(

the same mentality that thinks it is a divine right to progress...is the same as the one that doesn't understand that it is possible to get a worse board of directors...both views extremely naive.... What do you suggest they do ? Sack Roeder, and appoint a trophy winning manager, like Dalglish ? Progress? Just some thought would be nice, like allowing us to go another half a season with two left backs, one who hasn't played all season and looks likely never too (and this was determined by most well before the window even opened) and the other who has played one game in 4 months and that took his brother to die for him to turn up. Fuking excellent board you keep sticking up for, we all know previous was shite but this one is comical considering the amount of resources available now compared to then. When do smart decisions start to be made at this club? Under this board? Or maybe it will take someone else, someone who knows what they are doing. As for Roeder, someone with a personalty would be nice, someone the fans can relate too would be a decent start, especially if they are going to be under qualified, under experienced and out of their depth like our man right now.

Bit like Ronaldo actually. Ronaldo's only young tbh, and his performances in big games is improving from what I've seen. Totti never seemed to do so. He might be talking about the fat one and his crumble in the WC finals against France. No because saying the Ronaldo doesn't show up for big games is absurd. Then again what can you do if you have a fit the night before a World Cup final and are still your teams best player despite looking nowhere near any of the player during the tournament who was far better than anyone else. He had a nervous breakdown as the pressure on him was too much. He was utter shite that match, the worst player on the pitch. Yet the only Brazilian who looked like scoring, funny that. The pressure on him was so much that he came back four years later despite playing only a season and a half of footy to score twice in the World Cup final and then also totaling up the highest tally of goals someone has scored for 32 years. Brazil collapsed under the media pressure when reports of him banging his head off the wall in his hotel room were released, everyone was stunned, even more so that he was playing to be fair. There have been plenty of big night Champions league games where he hasn't performed, but seems to get lots of goals against the weaker teams. It really all depends on how fat he is on how well he can play. Fat Ronaldo is not on physically shite, he's mentally not up for it. Loses a stone or so moving to Milan and is in amongst the goals already, the hunger is back, but for how long? By next season he'll be looking for a new club imo. For someone who's not mentally up for it if you can tell me a better striker over the past decade then be my guest but I certainly cannot think of one, he's done pretty well for a player who is only 60% of the one who we saw from 96-99. Brazil collapsed due to the fact Edmundo had a 70 year old Mario Zagallo by the throat and all of the in fighting in that team. When Ronaldo wants it he's immense, but too many times he's let himself go and had to battle back to either regain fitness of form, usually both. Why is he 60% of the player we saw back then? Can't really blame injuries, not been that bad compared to Shearer who still managed to score frequently after his. Ronaldo has also managed to score more than frequently after his injuries as well but he's still only 60% of the player he was before it, Michael Owen's not a patch on the player before his injuries either, Shearer wasn't a patch on the player from 92-97 after he done his ankle, Gazza after that cup final etc. If you can't blame injuries then what else is there to blame? before his injuries he's the only player I've ever seen who had the ability when he was anywhere within 50 yards from goal where you fancied to beat all of the players in front of him and actually score (as Maradona's prime was too early for me) and the knee injuries took all that away from him due to his inability to be able to train barely on his knees thus loosing his stamina and conditioning and him having to convert into more of a predator. He wasn't even that player in 2002 but still managed all of those goals. Do you think that's what happened to Ronaldo, or does he just have a tendency to get complacent? A bit of both actually, although you still haven't managed to answer my question and name me a better striker of the past decade. Personal opinion, better striker? Shearer Shevchenko Henry IMO of course. In his prime which of course was not for very long I don't see any of them matching Ronaldo, he was always a level about the competition, and that is a huge compliment when you consider the glut of top class strikers around then compared to now. There was Shearer, Weah, Batistuta but I can't see any of them matching what Ronaldo brought to the table when he signed for Barcelona in '96. The mobile Shearer from 92-97 was the best striker I've seen over here I used to love watching him play, didn't it feel great when we'd signed the best striker in the world? still loved watching him even when he lost the legs all be it being completely different and having to operate down the centre with his back to goal instead of the running down the channel when he'd also put in some of the best crosses you'd see. You can never stop the footballing brain he had even if the legs couldn't catch up with it. I know I'm not alone despite the great service we got feeling a little bit robbed after that wet summer's afternoon in Goodison. Talking of sick moments (in another thread) that had to be up there, you just knew didn't you? Bastard, if only he didn't play in that shitty game. But Shearer came back, changed his style and still put himself up there with the best even though the club he played for had so many problems. Ronaldo has played with the best, trained with the best coaches and had every single opportunity handed to him and with no doubt had a talent only a select few humans will ever posses, yet he was ungrateful, lazy and selfish with it. Its those reasons i cannot class Ronaldo above those i have listed, i look at the type of personality in a player as well when considering who i rate as the best at such & such, that might be wrong but its how my mind works.

Bit like Ronaldo actually. Ronaldo's only young tbh, and his performances in big games is improving from what I've seen. Totti never seemed to do so. He might be talking about the fat one and his crumble in the WC finals against France. No because saying the Ronaldo doesn't show up for big games is absurd. Then again what can you do if you have a fit the night before a World Cup final and are still your teams best player despite looking nowhere near any of the player during the tournament who was far better than anyone else. He had a nervous breakdown as the pressure on him was too much. He was utter shite that match, the worst player on the pitch. Yet the only Brazilian who looked like scoring, funny that. The pressure on him was so much that he came back four years later despite playing only a season and a half of footy to score twice in the World Cup final and then also totaling up the highest tally of goals someone has scored for 32 years. Brazil collapsed under the media pressure when reports of him banging his head off the wall in his hotel room were released, everyone was stunned, even more so that he was playing to be fair. There have been plenty of big night Champions league games where he hasn't performed, but seems to get lots of goals against the weaker teams. It really all depends on how fat he is on how well he can play. Fat Ronaldo is not on physically shite, he's mentally not up for it. Loses a stone or so moving to Milan and is in amongst the goals already, the hunger is back, but for how long? By next season he'll be looking for a new club imo. For someone who's not mentally up for it if you can tell me a better striker over the past decade then be my guest but I certainly cannot think of one, he's done pretty well for a player who is only 60% of the one who we saw from 96-99. Brazil collapsed due to the fact Edmundo had a 70 year old Mario Zagallo by the throat and all of the in fighting in that team. When Ronaldo wants it he's immense, but too many times he's let himself go and had to battle back to either regain fitness of form, usually both. Why is he 60% of the player we saw back then? Can't really blame injuries, not been that bad compared to Shearer who still managed to score frequently after his. Ronaldo has also managed to score more than frequently after his injuries as well but he's still only 60% of the player he was before it, Michael Owen's not a patch on the player before his injuries either, Shearer wasn't a patch on the player from 92-97 after he done his ankle, Gazza after that cup final etc. If you can't blame injuries then what else is there to blame? before his injuries he's the only player I've ever seen who had the ability when he was anywhere within 50 yards from goal where you fancied to beat all of the players in front of him and actually score (as Maradona's prime was too early for me) and the knee injuries took all that away from him due to his inability to be able to train barely on his knees thus loosing his stamina and conditioning and him having to convert into more of a predator. He wasn't even that player in 2002 but still managed all of those goals. Do you think that's what happened to Ronaldo, or does he just have a tendency to get complacent? A bit of both actually, although you still haven't managed to answer my question and name me a better striker of the past decade. Personal opinion, better striker? Shearer Shevchenko Henry IMO of course.

Bit like Ronaldo actually. Ronaldo's only young tbh, and his performances in big games is improving from what I've seen. Totti never seemed to do so. He might be talking about the fat one and his crumble in the WC finals against France. No because saying the Ronaldo doesn't show up for big games is absurd. Then again what can you do if you have a fit the night before a World Cup final and are still your teams best player despite looking nowhere near any of the player during the tournament who was far better than anyone else. He had a nervous breakdown as the pressure on him was too much. He was utter shite that match, the worst player on the pitch. Yet the only Brazilian who looked like scoring, funny that. The pressure on him was so much that he came back four years later despite playing only a season and a half of footy to score twice in the World Cup final and then also totaling up the highest tally of goals someone has scored for 32 years. Brazil collapsed under the media pressure when reports of him banging his head off the wall in his hotel room were released, everyone was stunned, even more so that he was playing to be fair. There have been plenty of big night Champions league games where he hasn't performed, but seems to get lots of goals against the weaker teams. It really all depends on how fat he is on how well he can play. Fat Ronaldo is not on physically shite, he's mentally not up for it. Loses a stone or so moving to Milan and is in amongst the goals already, the hunger is back, but for how long? By next season he'll be looking for a new club imo. For someone who's not mentally up for it if you can tell me a better striker over the past decade then be my guest but I certainly cannot think of one, he's done pretty well for a player who is only 60% of the one who we saw from 96-99. Brazil collapsed due to the fact Edmundo had a 70 year old Mario Zagallo by the throat and all of the in fighting in that team. When Ronaldo wants it he's immense, but too many times he's let himself go and had to battle back to either regain fitness of form, usually both. Why is he 60% of the player we saw back then? Can't really blame injuries, not been that bad compared to Shearer who still managed to score frequently after his. Ronaldo has also managed to score more than frequently after his injuries as well but he's still only 60% of the player he was before it, Michael Owen's not a patch on the player before his injuries either, Shearer wasn't a patch on the player from 92-97 after he done his ankle, Gazza after that cup final etc. If you can't blame injuries then what else is there to blame? before his injuries he's the only player I've ever seen who had the ability when he was anywhere within 50 yards from goal where you fancied to beat all of the players in front of him and actually score (as Maradona's prime was too early for me) and the knee injuries took all that away from him due to his inability to be able to train barely on his knees thus loosing his stamina and conditioning and him having to convert into more of a predator. He wasn't even that player in 2002 but still managed all of those goals. Do you think that's what happened to Ronaldo, or does he just have a tendency to get complacent?

Bit like Ronaldo actually. Ronaldo's only young tbh, and his performances in big games is improving from what I've seen. Totti never seemed to do so. He might be talking about the fat one and his crumble in the WC finals against France. No because saying the Ronaldo doesn't show up for big games is absurd. Then again what can you do if you have a fit the night before a World Cup final and are still your teams best player despite looking nowhere near any of the player during the tournament who was far better than anyone else. He had a nervous breakdown as the pressure on him was too much. He was utter shite that match, the worst player on the pitch. Yet the only Brazilian who looked like scoring, funny that. The pressure on him was so much that he came back four years later despite playing only a season and a half of footy to score twice in the World Cup final and then also totaling up the highest tally of goals someone has scored for 32 years. Brazil collapsed under the media pressure when reports of him banging his head off the wall in his hotel room were released, everyone was stunned, even more so that he was playing to be fair. There have been plenty of big night Champions league games where he hasn't performed, but seems to get lots of goals against the weaker teams. It really all depends on how fat he is on how well he can play. Fat Ronaldo is not on physically shite, he's mentally not up for it. Loses a stone or so moving to Milan and is in amongst the goals already, the hunger is back, but for how long? By next season he'll be looking for a new club imo. For someone who's not mentally up for it if you can tell me a better striker over the past decade then be my guest but I certainly cannot think of one, he's done pretty well for a player who is only 60% of the one who we saw from 96-99. Brazil collapsed due to the fact Edmundo had a 70 year old Mario Zagallo by the throat and all of the in fighting in that team. When Ronaldo wants it he's immense, but too many times he's let himself go and had to battle back to either regain fitness of form, usually both. Why is he 60% of the player we saw back then? Can't really blame injuries, not been that bad compared to Shearer who still managed to score frequently after his.

'Inglarnds nambar wan' from the crowd in the 1st half.

Bit like Ronaldo actually. Ronaldo's only young tbh, and his performances in big games is improving from what I've seen. Totti never seemed to do so. He might be talking about the fat one and his crumble in the WC finals against France. No because saying the Ronaldo doesn't show up for big games is absurd. Then again what can you do if you have a fit the night before a World Cup final and are still your teams best player despite looking nowhere near any of the player during the tournament who was far better than anyone else. He had a nervous breakdown as the pressure on him was too much. He was utter shite that match, the worst player on the pitch. Yet the only Brazilian who looked like scoring, funny that. The pressure on him was so much that he came back four years later despite playing only a season and a half of footy to score twice in the World Cup final and then also totaling up the highest tally of goals someone has scored for 32 years. Brazil collapsed under the media pressure when reports of him banging his head off the wall in his hotel room were released, everyone was stunned, even more so that he was playing to be fair. There have been plenty of big night Champions league games where he hasn't performed, but seems to get lots of goals against the weaker teams. It really all depends on how fat he is on how well he can play. Fat Ronaldo is not on physically shite, he's mentally not up for it. Loses a stone or so moving to Milan and is in amongst the goals already, the hunger is back, but for how long? By next season he'll be looking for a new club imo.

Bit like Ronaldo actually. Ronaldo's only young tbh, and his performances in big games is improving from what I've seen. Totti never seemed to do so. He might be talking about the fat one and his crumble in the WC finals against France. No because saying the Ronaldo doesn't show up for big games is absurd. Then again what can you do if you have a fit the night before a World Cup final and are still your teams best player despite looking nowhere near any of the player during the tournament who was far better than anyone else. He had a nervous breakdown as the pressure on him was too much. He was utter shite that match, the worst player on the pitch.

Bit like Ronaldo actually. Ronaldo's only young tbh, and his performances in big games is improving from what I've seen. Totti never seemed to do so. He might be talking about the fat one and his crumble in the WC finals against France.

Whatever.

to be honest, they have been re-hashing the same stuff for months now. They also backed Martin O'Neill as our saviour, who is currently below us in the league and has been for quite a while too. that makes the whole article wrong i guess.. but still do you think Glenn Roeder was a better choice for a manager? on paper, or by track record, Kenny Dalglish was better than both of them put together ..... You can't prove by example, as they say. 4 League Titles with 2 different clubs, and 3 manager of the year awards proves the point. But you can continue to make an "opinion" not based on fact, if you like. But we don't appoint top managers. The Beermonster said... On the basis that Dalglish had the best CV second to none, 4 league titles, 3 FA Cups, and 3 manager of the year awards ... oh aye Freddie can't appoint top managers can he........LOL http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.sport.football.clubs.newcastle-united/browse_thread/thread/dd9d19baff9f921f/9a78958d1a8a07ba?q=beermonster+dalglish&lnk=ol&hl=en& Seriously Baggio, instead of following me around...and claiming this is me when I have never posted on usenet, why don't you show us your intelligence and dispute the actual content of the post ? BTW - I don't want to see you banned, or anyone else for that matter unlike toonstaylor, but you/we/us have been asked to stop this inter-forum malarkey ........ Aye right. Not my fault a new rule was invented to stop you wrecking the forum over and over again. I'm not wrecking anything. I just have a different opinion to you. And unfortunately for you, I can back it up with facts, and experience from a first hand view of what I have witnessed while supporting the club. You see, in my opinion, people like you who have no original thoughts, repeat what others say and worst of all say they supported the club when they were shit and you didn't, to be wrecking the forum. Whatever. I believe there is also a rule saying that people who encourage others to be banned will themselves be banned ? But I now think there is no point in responding to you ..... Aye 2 days, i'll take it on the chin to get rid of you for two weeks, that's IF i was trying to get you banned, which am not, i'm just sitting back watching you do it all yourself, you cannot help it, and thats what will end all this, which for 99.99999% of this board is fantastic.

to be honest, they have been re-hashing the same stuff for months now. They also backed Martin O'Neill as our saviour, who is currently below us in the league and has been for quite a while too. that makes the whole article wrong i guess.. but still do you think Glenn Roeder was a better choice for a manager? on paper, or by track record, Kenny Dalglish was better than both of them put together ..... You can't prove by example, as they say. 4 League Titles with 2 different clubs, and 3 manager of the year awards proves the point. But you can continue to make an "opinion" not based on fact, if you like. But we don't appoint top managers. The Beermonster said... On the basis that Dalglish had the best CV second to none, 4 league titles, 3 FA Cups, and 3 manager of the year awards ... oh aye Freddie can't appoint top managers can he........LOL http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.sport.football.clubs.newcastle-united/browse_thread/thread/dd9d19baff9f921f/9a78958d1a8a07ba?q=beermonster+dalglish&lnk=ol&hl=en& Seriously Baggio, instead of following me around...and claiming this is me when I have never posted on usenet, why don't you show us your intelligence and dispute the actual content of the post ? BTW - I don't want to see you banned, or anyone else for that matter unlike toonstaylor, but you/we/us have been asked to stop this inter-forum malarkey ........ Aye right. Not my fault a new rule was invented to stop you wrecking the forum over and over again.

Did anyone else spot the irony? mackems.gif mackems.gif Nowt to say as usual MORE IRONY!!!! Fuke me this gets better! mackems.gif

Did anyone else spot the irony? mackems.gif

Not guilty? More like unproven, big difference. Still would like to see the back of him this summer, but glad this things is put to bed, well unless the Watford players shite comes to trial.