James

yes he does get criticised as he is probably just outside of our 11 best players. fans have however played the ‘loves the club’ card as a reason to support Longstaff and Mitrovic. I’ve rarely seen that card played for Murphy despite the fact that I’ve seen more photos of child Murphy in an NUFC strip than the Longstaffs, Dummett and Mitrovic combined.

yes he was judged on performances. But despite being at a similar level, he needed to perform better than particular peers (e.g Longstaff and Mitrovic) to be liked the same as them.

Racism isn’t just about abuse, it’s about how we treat players. Still happens today as players like Sterling will attest to. The most common racism today is that many of us are guilty of holding certain players to a higher standard before we accept them and like them. I think some attitudes towards Murphy in particular have been inwardly racist.

In my opinion there was a lot of casual racism / unconscious bias when it came to both Dyer and Bramble which meant that people saw some issues that weren’t really there.

This is my memory of Bramble, seems to differ from what I’ve read. Following a return from injury: Game 1 - Bit rusty, few hairy moments, did OK Game 2 - Solid enough Game 3 - Nearly cost us there Game 4 - That was a horrible clanger Game 5 - OMG Titfuck Bumble WHAT HAVE YOU DONE??? Game 6 - Solid enough Game 7 - Really good game Game 8 - tremendous Game 9 - injured injury meant he wouldn’t usually get to games 7 or 8. Robson and Souness are the worst managers he could have, I seem to recall he did well for Roeder. he could have been a world beater - I think Howe would have got him to that point.

I wonder if we could tempt them to offer silly money for Wilson?

He gets to play in the U21 Champions League if he stays with us this season

Adam P

We’re gonna win the Champions League

For me this team reminds me of 1970s Netherlands

With six left backs starting today I am starting to think that Pardew managed has disposed of Howe and had a face swap done

trying a GK-less formation. Worrying

Could we see Garang today?

Doubt he will play in England again

Can we have a sell/keep survey for this thread?

the replacement cost is not astronomical. Neves probably benchmarks the sale price, £50m. Barnes is the replacement, £35m. then due to how FFP works with fee divided by transfer length for each year, we are then able to afford, based on £40m profit to the FFP books quite a few extra players.

Why are Tonali and Maddison still in rumoured?

part of it is that we got really lucky with Howe as our manager

surely he is… he was on our youth books for 8 years

And Gillespie. which is why we will have 4 GK as Gillespie and not Karius will be 3rd keeper pick in the Champions League

Who was Young Player of the Tournament?

I heard he has been mint

It’s becoming a bit of a strange situation where new elite players are joining the club, they meet Trippier who is captain but not captain, and then there is this guy at training who never plays who is the real captain. to be honest I will have lost a lot of respect for Lascelles if he is still here in September and hasn’t resigned the club captaincy.

Bruno G already fulfils 458% of the midfields smile quota so the smile doesn’t matter

and this is where they had to bathe in wheelie bins