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Nar, you think? Burnley, and Hull are at this moment in time the only team I can see keeping Sunderland up, Portsmouth don't need to even be mentioned. It would seem obvious but there is alot of dross down there. Any number of teams could go. Aye but I can see the likes of Bolton, Wigan, and Wolves picking up draws and points every so often, with Burnley and Hull I can't see that. Also how many times do WBA want to pull the Bristol players in the box? That cheating cunt Olsson, should have been sent off again.

2:1!!

Well they can already do that without asking the Premier League or FA, what you're saying in essense is that you don't believe they should be able to sell their players. So then they go out of business entirely. The likes of Ipswich have been allowed to sell players outside the transfer window due to financial problems in the past, so why not Portsmouth?

They're basically guarenteeing relegation to stand a chance of staying in existence, its a tade off not a safety net. In a sense that clubs will look back at this and think "we'll do what pompy did and flog our playes outside the transfer window" and cry foul if they aren't allowed. A some point someone has to drawer a line under it and say rules are rules. You mismanaged the club. But its been done before, its not like this is something entirely new. I see no problem with it really. I think having to sell all your best players for half their values and take a points deduction on top which will guarentee relegation is punishment enough for mismanaging the club, and I don't think anyone really wants their fans to entirely lose their club, which they will if they can't sell players. What other solution is their now?

They're basically guarenteeing relegation to stand a chance of staying in existence, its a tade off not a safety net.

They have spent big but at least they could afford it. Before the Glazers came in they were relatively debt free and making massive profits, which is why they were sold for so much money. Like I said I agree with you in general though.

I reckon every PL club should give the 0.6mil to Pompy so they can pay off the 12mil if they are struggling to pay it...dont want to see any club going out of business unless its Spurs I feel bad for the fans but at the end of the day their has to be consequences for overstretching yourself as far as they have. Its unfair on clubs that manage things properly if every club that doesn't is bailed out.

I can. It's called spending money before you have it the bank. Everyone does it with loans, credit cards overdrafts etc. The football world has been chasing a higher league finish by borrowing money before they have earned it in order to spend loads of money on transfer fee's and wage's for players and managers to take them up the table or in to Europe. Problem is if 20 clubs do it then there has to be a high % of clubs that fail and then they can't make that money back to pay the banks off. Before the recession you could keep borrowing silly amounts of money as long as you were holding on to assests of high values. Problem is that the higher amounts you borrow the greater the interest, look at Man Utd, all that success and so many home grown players at the club (Scholes, Beckham, Butt, Giggs etc.) yet they have still got money issues. If they didn't sell Ronaldo at £80m they would have made something like a £50m loss last year. Pompey are in a state because they have borrowed far more than they can earn and now it's pay up time and they have nothing to give. When they sell players the club doesn't get all the money, agents take %'s (agents are scum in football) and as a result the money coming back is not enough to cover the amount they borrowed, let alone the interest. That's because their money issues have little to do with Football. What I mean is the club didn't end up with that debt due to overspending, they ended up with it because the Glazers borrowed that sum to buy the club and then put the debt onto the club itself. Still can't believe that's legal.. I agree with the rest though, clubs like Portsmouth have been punching so far above their weight for so long that this was really inevitable in the end.

They don't have to pay it all now, its the £12m they owe as tax's that may end up with them going out of existence. It might not sound like much, but their revenue isn't very big, probably around what ours is in the Championship and half of what ours was when we were in the Premiership (and of course they have to keep forking out for player wages and running costs along the way).

I agree with that. Guthrie was very good as was Routledge and Coloccini class as usual. Jonas absolutely took the piss out of their right back, most brutal raping I've seen since Monica Bellucci in Irreversible

This. Not a chance of it happening this season so I don't see how this can be the case. This season shows the "big four" might be falling out of the CL spots, which would be a big issue for the money makers, hence the idea of giving whichever drops out of the four top spots in the future yet another chance so money won't be lost. It won't apply this season, but I'd bet they're regretting not coming up with this before. You think the Premier League want it to be the same top 4 every year? They want to mix it up a bit and make the league more entertaining, it's no surprise Liverpool and the other so called big 4 are the only teams against it. tbh I think the world is cynical enough for that, including the Premier League, the "top four" are the main pull outside of England and if one or two of them started to trail it would make the gloryhunters jump ship and perhaps focus on other league, or not follow football at all, meaning a lot of money would be lost selling television rights to other countries and so on and so on. Whichever one of them started to lag behind would be replaced and they would get the glory hunters, that's how it works, Chelsea weren't a massive draw until Abramovich made them a permenant member of the top four.

Good idea IMO, yes how well a team does over 38 games is always a better decider then one off games. But the fact is the money from the top four is so large it almost guarentees that the same teams will continue to finish in the champions league places every year (appart from when a billionaire comes in and buys success like at Chelsea and Man City). At least this idea would shake things up a bit.

Points required for automatic promotion from the last 5 seasons: 04/05 - 86 points 05/06 - 82 points 06/07 - 85 points 07/08 - 76 points 08/09 - 81 points

How anyone can put out a midfield of Guthrie, Smith, Nolan Routledge with a straight face is beyond me. But the scary thing is he's put out worse midfields Anyway what a fucking joke of a performance that was, its hard to understand how a group of players can't even manage to put a few passes together. Everytime we got the ball we either mis-placed the bass, smashed it forwards to nobody or pissed about until the opposition nicked it back.. About the only player on the pitch for us who looked assured in his passing was Coloccini.

We're signing Championship players in the Championship and that means we'll never challenge again in the Premiership? , that's massively stupid

What infrastructure is his talking about? The infrastructure of hugely paid and terribly performing wasters like Owen, Martins, Viduka and Duff ect? Also have to say that allowing Hughton to keep the likes of Jonas, Smith, Nolan, Coloccini ect on huge wages can hardly be called relentless cost cutting. We're in the Championship FFS! who's to say he let hughton keep them as opposed to not recieving any decent offers ? Hughton, if you don't believe him then fine, not going to get into another "who says it is, who says its not" argument

What infrastructure is he talking about? The infrastructure of hugely paid and terribly performing wasters like Owen, Martins, Viduka and Duff ect? Also have to say that allowing Hughton to keep the likes of Jonas, Smith, Nolan, Enrique, Taylor and Coloccini ect on huge wages can hardly be called relentless cost cutting. We're in the Championship FFS!

A lot of their fans I heard from thought he was world class for them. Obviously to Depor that was a massive fee but as usual you have to pay above a clubs actual valuation to get one of their top players.

I wouldn't expect to get a great player for £5m rising to £7m like. Though I'd expect a lot better then Xisco of Also I don't remember any of their fans I heard from being anything but upset when we took Coloccini from them.

Matt Damon apears to be in the stands and also on the pitch for Chelsea

Thought his career was over and when he got a second chance decided he would actually try for once.

Alan Carr's class IMO, one funny puff!

I could be a full international for the Faroe Islands. No you couldn't. Ok, I would need a fake passport. That would be a start like, then you just need some ability, or if you need to learn to fake it speak to Shola.

I could be a full international for the Faroe Islands. No you couldn't.

Already a full international at 18, I know its the Faroe Islands but that's still pretty promising.