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He's an arsehole and still says some pretty inane things (players running into each other) but overall he's right.

If Owen is the player singled out to be left out of the England team then I'd be extremely suprised. He's had his problems, but when fit he's been one of Englands better players. I mean common, Lampard is a no brainer as the first player that should be thrown out and never get near the side ever again.

By getting a pair of balls I just mean not running scared to the likes of Derby, Wigan and Sunderland. He's acted like a coward all season, going into games with the worst teams in the league with the aim being not to lose rather then to win.

Complete bollocks, nobody is that stupid, show me the post please... Either way people do not feel that way and people do not expect big things, so please stop with the s***. All people want is a manager with some sense and a pair of balls. All they want is to not start and end every single match with a sense of complete and utter hopelessness at the absoluter horror show that is a team managed by Sam Allardyce. P.S. If he does want out then good, sack the fucker. Not only is he a useless twat but he's a pussy to boot, would anyone here really want this club run by a man who runs away at the first sign of trouble?

How much did Souness spend to get them there? So you're saying that Allardyce can be just as successful here as Souness was but without spending as much?, well I'm sold..

Well you've got a point there, he is "a top man in his field" and apparently "knows best" according to himself, which must be right because, well he's a top man in his field so..

I'm sick of hearing this. If a manager can't learn from the obvious after seven months then he's either slower then forest gump on a bad day or he just doesn't want to learn. Do you seriously think it should take him seven months to realise that playing to your oppositions strengths and against your own is a a terrible idea? Its basic stuff, it shouldn't take one month to learn never mind seven months, or god forbid three years. P.S. I have no loyalty to Sam Allardyce until he earns my loyalty, I'm loyal to the club, not the manager.

Owen obviously isn't anywhere near match fit and he shouldn't start for us until he is, he's utterly useless without sharpness. Give him reserve games first IMO

This b****** did it! http://chanisoft.com/images/HansMoleman1.gif

Hmm, thought it had been posted here that he was on the bench before I left to watch the game. In that case another question, why wasn't Enrique in the squad? Perhaps then we wouldn't have to play left wingers at left back or indeed bring on centre backs at left back.. By the way here's some rules for you to remember mate: http://www.informatics.sussex.ac.uk/department/docs/punctuation/node27.html

Owen for Martins?, what a completely pointless substitution which cost us the initiative. Martins was doing ok and certainly didn't seem to have any injury. So why bring him off for Owen, who everyone knows is completely useless until he's fit. EDIT: Sure someone posted that Enrique was on the bench, where the fuck is the lad then? In the Metro eating icecream?

Dont see anything wrong there, we need to be defensive as we are away to Chelsea, we cant play Enrique because he hasnt played alot this season and away to Chelsea we are probably best to keep the person who has been our LB all season. IF we won our last 4 games and were in the top 8 right now people would be happy with that line up, we arnt playing for a win today, we are playing not to lose. We have a defensive midfielder, defender and striker in midfield, you don't see anything wrong with that?

10 players eh?...

Butt and Smith in midfield, N'Zogbia at left back.... please sack him now!!

Yeah, but in 5 games time, the chances are that's going to be 12th or 13th...which is around where Roeder, Souness, Gullit & Dalglish were. So basically you're saying this board is no better than the old one? No, I'm saying the manager isn't performing any better than those ones. How do you think Shepherd would have handled this situation? He'd have done one of two things. He'd buy a big name or two in the January window to try to make fans forget the real problems. Or he'd sack the fat cunt and get someone as bad or worse to replace him. The difference here is I'd hope that if Mort/Ashley sack fatty they'd get someone better to replace him.

Ferguson is a brilliant manager, but like everyone else looking at this from outside he hasn't got a f****** clue what he's talking about here and should shut his mouth. You know, I almost hope Allardyce doesn't get sacked just so all these ignorant fuckwits can be proven wrong, almost....

Was the same for Tottenham tbf. Exactly, and they still kept losing players to us.. Some of the negativity on here makes me sick.

Reason Modric could come here is not because we've done well for half a season. Its because on of his best mates already plays for us. Not that I'd advocate spending £20m on him. To be clear I wasn't saying he wouldn't go to Man City. I was just commenting on what a couple of people have said in this thread about Newcastle having no chance to sign a player if Man City are after him, which is ludicrous really.

Yeah whatever Sam..

Love the sudden opinion that Man City are some untouchable monster club... they've done well for half a fucking season, most people outside of England probably don't even know they exist.

You can't really compare them. Roeder's Newcastle played Liverpool away, Manure away, Arsenal away and Chelsea away all in the first 19 games. Allardyce has played Liverpool at home and Arsenal at home, that's it.. He's now got all four of those teams to play away in the next 19 games, plus Chelsea and Manure at St James as well. We've had the easiest start to a season I can remember.

As for the financial cost of sacking Allardyce. It will cost us only as much as we pay the next manager. Wether we pay the useless twat his money over his contract or up front he still gets the same amount. The only real difference between paying him the money outright or paying it over his contract is that if we pay it over the full length of his contract we'll be shit for much longer..

They we're probably marginally better under Roeder, which in of itself is a sad indicement of Allardyce. Being no better should be humiliating to most managers, but worse... Both Roeder and Souness deserved to be sacked and in fact should have gone sooner, or even better should never have been hired in the first place, so I'm not sure why you've brought them up. Bobby Robson had done well and was still doing ok results wise. It was a combination of silly team selections which seemed to be holding the team back and Fat Fred being a nob head that got him the sack. Speaking of Robson, why do you think people weren't asking for him to be sacked after he only finished 11th in his first two seasons? I'll tell you why, because we could see he was actually improving things. Making progress is neccesary if a manager is to keep his job, has Allardyce made progress?, has he f***!, if anything he's taken us further backwards.

Get a brain for f*** sake. We're consistently outplayed by just about everyone in the league (we occasionally fluke a half decent performance once in a blue moon) and couldn't string two consecutive passes together against Wigan (90% of the time we couldn't manage one pass). Seven months in and the players don't even know what the fat c*** wants them to do! Even if they did we'd still get beaten because his tactics and team selection are simply pathetic! Yeah how fickle eh? How dare we ask for a manager who can at least get the basics of Football right. How will any manager live up to those lofty expectations eh? "No way I'm not taking over there, they actually expect there team to be able to string two passes together and possibly not get humiliated by the whipping boys of the league... and they only pay you £50,000 a week...".

Pretty much summed up what I was just about to post. HTT was the fella who was telling us how brilliant Allardyce is and how great we are going to be when he was linked/took over in his numerous mega posts he likes to make. Wrong, I was obviously delighted with his appointment and it showed in my posts but guess where I had us down as finishing at the start of the season? Mid-table! While others had us anywhere from top 4 to mid-table. Hardly the reaction you're referring to, eh? I've said since day one it is going to be a long hard slog to turn this club around and that the manager needs time and money as well as good fortune and that goes for anyone whether it be Big Sam or another manager. You think we're going to finish as high as mid table? What a joker..