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Allardyce shouldn't need a few seasons to work out that playing a totally defensive lineup with no creativity at all against poor sides is playing against our own strengths and completely in to the oppositions hands. How the f*** didn't he work that out after the likes of Derby? Actually how could he not know that to begin with? When Allardyce was talked about as the next Newcastle managers I actually bought into this whole idea of him being some kind of forward thinking tactician who was just held back by Boltons lack of ambition (or I hoped that was true anyway). A few of games into the season I started to get worried about the teams he was putting out and the kind of Football they were playing, but tried to put it out of my mind. Now I'm really starting to think that he's a one trick poney, with absolutely no idea how to play any different from the way he had Bolton playing. Give him a few years and he could have use finishing in the top 7 regularly, once he's brought in all the right players to make us into Bolton... but what then? Playing that way can only get you so far and we should be looking for so much better then that. Hopefully I'm wrong and I'll still give him a chance, but only in hope rather then any kind of belief.

Haha yeah I was just coming back to change that

Well obviously yes, 2sheds does He would like me to quote each amount of money in the currency where the person made that money. So I'd convert Ashley's fortune into pounds, Abramovich's fortune into Rubles, Shiniwatra's into Baht ect. I mean we would then have a comparison that wouldn't actually be comparable.. but 2sheds would be ecstatic so who cares? EDIT: I'd assumed Russia had changed to Euro but apparently not

No because we are in the UK where the currency is pounds sterling. Besides which the dollars value is dropping like a tarts knickers these days so all those estimates of wealth are undoubtedly wrong. It doesn't matter what country we're in man. What matters is that the comparison being made will be no different no matter what currency its converted into so its pointless to do so. If you feel some need to have everything in pounds for no reason then be my guest, I won't bother thanks

They're all listed in dollars at the sources I've looked at, seems quite pointless to convert them all wouldn't you say?

Well Ashley has about $4 billion. Chelsea definately have a richer owner, Abramovich has a personal fortune well over $10 billion. Liverpool's Gillet and Hicks combined are worth about $4.5 billion. Man UTD's owner definitely isn't richer, neither are West Ham or Villa's owners (though they're all billionaires). As for Thaksin at Man City, he isn't even a billionaire, not even close. So I'd say two clubs have richer owners then Newcastle, but one of them (Liverpool) insignificantly so. Then again Ashley's right in saying it all depends how much each is willing to spend. Nobodies going to spend a billion or more on a Football club so...

Dear me, no offence mate but some of the rumours and 'inside info' I hear from Spurs fans have to go down as the most fantastical jackanory peices of bull I've ever heard. I mean its not enough to rumour that Mike Ashley (who has just paid £133 for a Football club, paid off £80 million of debt, and turns up to every game in a Newcastle top) is going to just up and sell within months in order to try to buy Tottenham... Oh no, he's going to team up with 3 other billionaires to do it. Because Spurs are too good for one man with a $4 billion personal fortune, they need three billionaires to fullfill there massive potential Just about no chance of that happening?, try no chance what so ever of even any part of that happening.. The financial report won't include all of the £28.5 million you spent on summer transfers, not even most of it. As with most transfers some money will be paid up front for players with the majority of the rest of the fee being paid bit by bit over the following year/s. Also I don't know how you get this £50 million figure from..

You know the most pathetic thing about all this is the strange idea the press seem to have that Owen has to leave if any clause is activated. Why on earth would Owen want to move to Man City?? I mean yeah they're on a high at the moment with a new owner buying big, but they're hardly a prestigious club now are they. Why does that stand to reason? There's no reason a clause in a contract has to change as time goes on. It might in this case, but there's no general rule, nor is it even a usual thing AFAIK.

For that matter who is unzogbia?

Capacha??? Who the fuck is Capacha?

To be fair, my next door neighbour has Indonesian, Indian, Chinese, Singapore and Malaysian channels. To be fair, it's against the rules to discuss internet streams on the open forum, but feel free to take the risk and see what happens. OK, I didn't know that. I'm sure you enjoy banning people, so it's not a risk worth taking. He also enjoys the forum being closed down. Someone mentioning wether some channel in Asia has the match on or not is likely to do that eh?

Haven't you seen the team lined up? That is balance personified assuming its a 442. If everyone plays in the positions you think its much more balanced then past teams. But even then Butt and Geremi in central midfield isn't balanced..

85,000 Euro's more like (£60,000).

Why should these foreign business people not come in and buy English Football clubs if they want to?, its there decision. The point is he's mouthing off about people hurting the English game, but he's hurting it as much as anyone.

I've seen you do it, or maybe it was someone else with the same picture, but I'm fairly sure it was you. I don't have to answer to you, it irritates me. Good day. No you don't, but if you can't be bothered to explain yourself then that basically makes your comments completely pointless.

Which oh so superior side are you talking about here??

You can blame Allardyce for Martin losing his touch. The amount of time he's been warming the bench while we wait for "White Elephant" Owen to blow up again..... Besides - I said it would be Arsenal Reserves 2 Newcastle 0. He "lost" his touch in customs on his way over from Milan tbf. That's assuming he had one in Italy. Sorry Gemmill, but that's an absolute load of s**** His touch is f****** dreadful. Even some of the people that claim he's class will concede that. Its quite obvious that he was talking about his scoring touch not his first touch. As for your opinion on Martins, I'm basically speechless...

This is nothing but a puff piece. For a start why are they comparing one years revenue for one club to a different years revenue for another club?

The only real difference between that team and the one against West Ham is that Ameobi has been replaced by Viduka.. how on earth can he pick that midfield again after Derby >

I wish some people would get it through there heads that its not the defeat that's bothering people so much, its the manor of the defeat. Allardyce picked a lopsided and overly defensive side and then did nothing to change that side for 90 soul destroying minutes. That's infinitely more worrying then the defeat itself.

Well at half time he obviously thought "Hmm. We created almost nothing, didn't defend that well. Best do exactly the same in the second half", so what reason do we have to believe he'll do things differently next week? If he really learned anything during the game then instead of bringing on a defensive midfielder and right back to replace a defensive midfielder and right back why didn't he actually change things? Why not bring Beye on for Smith put Beye at right back and move Taylor to left back, which free's N'zogbia up to move to left wing and Milner over to his natural right wing position. That match was crying out for a few creative players to stretch the play and give Martins and Ameobi more room up front. If Allardyce couldn't see that during the game then I'm not overly confident he'll see it afterwards. I'm not trying to be all doom and gloom and I'm not going to give up on Allardyce after only a few games either. But I will say that so far I'm haven't been impressed and that game last night set some alarm bells ringing for me. I just hope that once Enrique comes in N'Zogbia will be moved to left wing and Milner will go to right wing. Idealy I'd like Allardyce to give up on this silly big striker little striker idea and also be less cautious in the center of the midfield' but I'm a lot less condifent of that happening..

Patience for f****** what exactly? If I have patience will an unbalanced mishmash of a team selection playing hopeless hit and hope Football suddenly become great? That game sent alarm bells ringing for me personally. I could forgive Allardyce starting with that team, but to continue with the same pathetic formulae right until the end worries the f*** out of me. There's no point in hoping he'll realise his mistake and change things for the next game either, not when his idea of fixing the problem 70 minutes into that shambles of a performance is to bring on a right back and defensive midfielder!

How does leaving there best players out of the team and almost losing against Portsmouth as a result mean that they have a great squad?...