Begbie

I got my answer. Keegan is clueless when it comes to tactics. Why on earth did he substitute Obafemi Martins? We should have sacked Terry McDermot and Keegan should have gotten his place, and we should have appointed a manager who has followed football in the last 3 years....

We're playing to much in the center of the pitch, needs to go down both flanks. We need to finnish the attacks with a shot atleas, not just loose the ball all the time. This isnt and wasnt owens game, its too fysical :\

I second that... Owen is so SHITE

Not sure mate. If so, I'll take him off the list. Aye Jeffers made his debute against Australia, and he even scored a goal

gg 3-0

Cannot believe people are actually blaming him for that goal. And Gerrard's a fcking diving c***. I second that!! I really hope in the future, that divers get the same card for diving as the defender whould have gotten if it had been a freekick/penalty. They really need to get the diving cunts out of football...

It looks like everytime we conceede or score a goal, we let another one in just right after...

Man utd have what we lack, they have pace in their team. I say get Kezeng LuaLua on the field again, and get smith as long of the pitch he can get. Fly him back to leeds or something, and take Viduka with him. We have bought talented players since this summer, let them have a go. They cant be worse then Smith can they? Then they are not talented. Were do smith play on the pitch?-He isnt a striker, midfielder, defender or a goalie, is he even a footballer?

Zoggy isnt a left back, and it really shows. He is the only player we've got on the pitch with a litle pace in him.

I try again, were is Enrique? is he injured or left for spain?

Fack

when we're getting free kicks, corners etc against us, we need to keep atleast one player up front..

is enrique injured ?

I voted keep him as a backup. We have a paper thin squad atm, and need to get some players in before we can sell, and i dont think we get much for him atm.

When was the last time Martins was a goal threat??? The last game for nigeria? But when was the last time owen was a goal threat against a premiership side? :rolleyes: I'm not talking about Owen though; I'm talking about the fact that Oba isn't actually a goal threat. We need better than both Martins and Owen tbh. PS, Owen had a good goal against Man United disallowed, as well as missing a one on one. That's 2 goal threats only 2 games ago I think Martins is a great prospect, and under Big Sam he was used wrong. He playd mostly on the right side, and it looked like the players wasnt allowed to shot from long range, something i believe is/was martins biggest strengt. Get in a striker who can play up front with Martins. We need a type like Van Nistleroy, and I think it would be a great partnership. Btw: isnt Martins our lead goalscorer this season?

do'h!

When was the last time Martins was a goal threat??? The last game for nigeria? But when was the last time owen was a goal threat against a premiership side? :rolleyes:

I would Welcome Woody back, a great player. But 7M is a bit much for a crooked player, if he can stay injury free he would be worth the money, but that wont happend

Owen over Martins. Actually looks like a footballer. Martins just looks like some fast lad hoyed onto a pitch. Doesnt seem to have any clue as to what runs to make, where to position himself etc. Owen looks like a midget who is paid to walk around in the pitch, and he doesnt excatcly, walk in to great positions either. Has he even had a shot on goal in his last 3-4 Premiership games? - U can add the FA cup game now against Arsenal as well. Martins Has the ability to become a great player,and has much more to his game than owen has. Owen was a GREAT player, and looks like he will become the most overpaid crooked player since Winston Bogarde was in chelsea.

Think its time to take off Taylor, after he misstime that header in the first half, he hasnt looked confident. Get in Rozy to calm down the back four. I hope he gives Carroll a run, Owen has been shite mostly of the game, and we need some hight up front.

To all the Owen fans, what does he really give to the team now? What is his strengts(im not talking about owen in the past, but owen today, the 2008 owen). When was the last time Owen scored in the Premiership, I cant remember really. Lets take a look of Owen 2008 and his attributes. - Pace: He doesnt have much pace left in him. - Finnisher: he isnt a class finnisher(he has always been overrated imo as a finnisher. When he had pace he had to have 10 chances to score one goal, but he had the pace to make himself 10 chances). Can he even score from distance, does he have a long shot foot? - Heading: He is a decent header, and that is maby his stronges attribute in his game today. - Dribbling: He isnt a good dribbler, and doesnt often try to dribbel past the last man, when he does he often/always looses the ball. - He is very much a one footed striker. - Position: Many ppl say he is great to get in position, but why isnt he more involved in the game then? Has he such a brilliant footballbrain, that no one can read how he is running? - IMO to find the right space u have to have movement a lure the back line to get into position, Owen doesnt have this. - Age: He doesnt have the age on his right side, and we should sell him while we maybe can get 10M for him. - First touch: He has an decent first touch if he gets it on his right foot. Take away the name OWEN and most of you people would have a go at him. If it was Shola Ameobi who layed like owen has done for us, ppl would have cried out for him to be sold. Martins 2008 and his Attributes: - Pace: He has lots of pace. - Finnisher: an ok finnisher, can imporve much here. - Heading: He is actually decent on his head, can challange big strikers cause he can jump very high - Can use both foots - Positioning: Very bad, and need serious coaching on this. - Age: he is only 23, and has the future ahead of him. Selling him now would be a stupid move. - First Touch: He needs to practice his first touch, and with the right coaching he will master this. And i think if he gets his confidence back, his first touch will improve. So for me I would pick Martins any day over Owen. Tbh i think I would pick Smith over Owen too.

Keegan had to be either a brilliant coach or a brain surgeon to do this. But he is neither. Anyway, are the people saying that Martins can learn to resolve his obvious deficits by good coaching the same who thought Bramble could overcome his concentration blackouts? The usual I-support-a-17Million£-super-goal-machine-which-is-always-injured-and-a-f******-mercenary comment. Bored with them... Your problem. I am not actually supporting Owen with my comment, but rather questioning where the belief that Martins can improve his game is coming from, because all this leg-humping is really boring me as well. Btw - It's the transfer window, shouldn't you make up fake transfer news for "entertainment"? Why on earth shouldnt a 23 year old be able to improve his game? Tbf to the lad, he has the talent to become great(and dont start with the ameobi was a talent for 8 years etc etc). Martins has deadly pace, he can shoot hard with both his feets, so why shouldnt he be able with the right coaching to get a better first touch, and with games get his confidence back? -Some players when out allready saying King Kev is givin them cofidence by beeing who he is, sitting down with each one of them before the game and saying what he expects from them...

I wud love to have him here till the end of the season. Play him as a backup striker/winger, because we need as much class as we can get right now.

We should sell Owen as soon as possible. Like someone said, it seems like he has lost his hunger for the game, and it doesnt help that he is getting slower than Shearer was in his last season, atleast Shearer was a class finnisher(Owen isnt a class finnsiher, he is decent). I would take Martins any day,especially in a 4-4-2 system. Martins is the future, he has the pace and have to learn how to use it. If anything I think Keegan is the man who will get the best out of him. Martins have a killer shot, if he shoots more he will score more and gain confidence. If it was 5 years ago, I would pick Owen over Martins, but not today or in the future.

Lets stop buying players who is on their way down, lets buy players who is gonna be a star instead. Im a Norwegian, and I dont want Riise, IMO he is shite. Btw: I'm from norway and i dont know a single norwegian who would support nufc if riise came here. Even Liverpool fans up here dont like him...