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Pardew is funny. First none can move from their position, now every player is everywhere I like it though. It´s the right direction

Think the setup to this game is the best for a very long time.

I don't want us to play our usual 4-4-2 but Sammy in there gives us a bit of hope. He's quick and young enough to run all day so he could be playing in a more attacking midfielder type role linking up the play. With HBA and Fergie getting forward and attacking the flanks it might work well and be a bit more fluid than our normal 4-4-2. Still a little worried about us being outnumbered in the centre again but in Tiote and Anita we have a couple of midfielders who can get around the pitch. wrote completely opposite to what I meant... Sammy isn´t a center forward, he can´t play along side Ba at the top with us playing it long.

If we don´t see anything other than 4-4-2, then Pardew is a real idiot.

Of course you don´t have to play for your country

Tottenham has to try and play if they should get anything from this.

Right decision, bad for the game though.

Are you trying to say something? For me it´s not only what formation you play, it´s how you play in it. Which is why I don't get the whole 4-4-2/4-3-3 debate. Aye. Think we should enjoy this match instead of arguing this

Are you trying to say something? For me it´s not only what formation you play, it´s how you play in it.

It's a fair point. You could argue that he already has got his chance. He´s been here 2 years now and for what I can tell his gone backwards the last 6 months. That´s not the sign for me that he will turn anything around no matter the reasons to it. I think there is no coming back.

Yes please

I would kick him out right the way if I got the chance. Sadly, as been said, that wouldn´t matter because we would only get some shit in anyway. So I would keep him the rest of the season, then sack him (but that won´t matter either because Ashley doesn´t care about us and won´t get the right man in). The facts are clear though. Pardew will only take us backwards. I have compared him with Roeder and I have no reason to chance that. I got laughed off last time but didn´t care, so why would I do that now? If we want to compete again Pardew has to go, but the same goes for Ashley. The future is not looking that bright after all.

Don't agree with the second half bit. I thought we sat back far too much and were too deep, especially against a team so poor at going forward. I'm not saying we should have bombed forward, far from it but there was a balance to be found and we didn't do that. Why let a team with one proper striker come on to you so that he's constantly in and around the box? Maybe a bit, yes, but I wouldn't say Liverpool are that poor going forward. They are having trouble scoring, but kept the ball well. Had we opened ourselves up more I think we would have given them - and especially Suarez - the space they need to actually penetrate. They were clueless on how to open us up for long periods. I still think our counter-attacking could be better, maybe comitting Ben Arfa further up the pitch was the missing piece. That, and that more players got to attack, at least 4-5 players. We are to easy to take the ball from.

Don't agree with the second half bit. I thought we sat back far too much and were too deep, especially against a team so poor at going forward. I'm not saying we should have bombed forward, far from it but there was a balance to be found and we didn't do that. Why let a team with one proper striker come on to you so that he's constantly in and around the box? Spot on, exactly what I feel. I think that we should have a more offensive approach. But that´s just me. I can live with us playing more deeply if pardew likes that. But it has to be some kind of balance. The second half yesterday was like a training session were we was practicing defense, and every time we won the ball we just gave it to Liverpool straight away. Instead of doing that every single game we should be better to control the game with ball possession. But we can´t. That´s the problem. There is no surprise that we concede when we are in the lead if we are just kicking away the ball for 45 minutes. In such a long time there will always be "a lucky bounce" or "a mistake" to happen.

Another view at this. If we are a team that want´s to defend and then counterattack. Then I have to say that I rarely seen a worse team than us. There are just no one that ever make any runs, especially not at full speed, when we gets the ball. Someone talk about playing like Chelsea, or crap like that, but hey. They are a wonderful counterattacking team.

As I said before I'd love to see a diagram of every position that he receives the ball in a typical game and I'd be surprised if the majority were in the opposition half. Same for Cisse and Ba - two centre forwards whose average receipt position must be about 40 yards from goal. He's mainly a wasted talent at the minute and can still change a game. Absolutely spot on. In fact most of our players are. We have great talent. Pardew coaches the team like we haven´t.

It's true that Jonas doesn't add much to our flow or buildup play. He does make a significant defensive contribution though. I would think we should play the Tiote-Anita Cabaye trio in games where we want to boss possession and then play Jonas against the bigger clubs. See. This is what´s wrong here. Everyone is happy if a player is running around and then hoof it long and hard. How can anyone be happy with that?

And how can that, in anyway, be a good thing?

The main problem is that we shouldn´t be playing so deep. Of course Ben Arfa should defend. But then when we get the ball. Keep it! Attack! We just hoof it and everything starts all over again. People doesn´t sees any problems with that?

We have far better players today than we had back then, yet we are the same TYPE of negative, cautious, percentages type of footballing side we were under Big Sam. Not going to argue if we play worse or better now than under Allardyce. But tbh. What is the big different?

I think it´s a different between defending in a good way and in a poor way. They performed in a good way, we in a bad. Because when we finally are getting the ball we just hoof. The ball is coming back faster than we can hit it. TRY AND FUCKING KEEP THE BALL. And regarding our "so called offensive play"

We were man. Are you f***ing blind or something or just plaid stupid?! We could barely sting 4 passes together and were outplayed by an extremely average Liverpool side. We scored just before the break but rather than come out after the break full of spunk, we came out all meek and sat back. We played so deep the likes of Cisse were operating well inside the half-way line. We weren't awful. Fact. We were, especially the entire second half. We invited the pressure all day long, as always.