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It means that we are shit! Seriously though, the table is projecting how the league table is finishing if every team is getting the exact same results (in the exact same matches) as last season. For example, last season we lost to Fulham (a) with 5-2. Therefore if we win this time we will get three more points while Fulham will drop three. Our victory against Wigan (h) didin´t earn us any points since we also won against them last season. Hope you understand it better now

At what cost? he's got to have it like, i'm far from a fan of pardew but letting him go would be insanity....i've very clearly said i don't think he'll ever progress us as a club (as far as we should with our current quality of player) and in many ways i feel he's holding back our progress significantly the alternatives are too terrifying to consider though...not a chance ashley would appoint a better manager than pardew, none whatsoever, so you have to ask yourself what the cost would be if he goes? unless we're in serious danger of being relegated he'll stay, and i think it's for the best until ashley either f***s off or starts taking us seriously as a football club rather than just a balance sheet best case scenario he gets plan a working again i suppose, 'cause there's clearly no plan b I agree with what you are saying I don´t think Pardew should stay because he earn it, he should stay because Ashley is an idiot. And that´s why it´s so sad and why I have trouble to enjoy us playing.

Read the bloody article, mate. Christ. fair enough then, for this time. Still think I have a bit right though

Hate this "small club mentality" he always brings up. Don´t understand what he wants at all at this club. Always talking about better clubs, better players, other clubs that are bigger than us that are going to buy our players etc etc. Sure. They are better. But if we want to be a top club, which Pardew seems to want (was aiming for CL), he should start to talk like one. Stop defend a lead, or just sit back, against team that are worse then us and have some balls ffs. The same thing should go with his pre talk. It´s enough to say that we have difficult games coming up (this time it´s true, not when you face teams like Wigan at home) and leave it with that. You don´t have to talk about bigger and better clubs. If you want to be a winner, talk like one!

What have personality to do with ability? I know plenty of people that are really nice even if they aren´t that bright...

On that subject, probably the most unforgivable things Ashley and Llambo have done is force out 2 managers who were doing well and who we loved just to appoint their friends. There's not an argument in the world which could convince me Kinnear and Pardew were appointed based on talent or track record. Agree

Me too, will always maintain that he would have excelled at the club even beyond what he achieved. I will never forgive Ashley for sacking him and bring in the one we have now.

DOUBT THAT.

7 of the reserves as you call them played a part in our last league game. That says a lot about our squad... tbh, hasn´t seen 1 sec of this game so can´t really say something.

Our reserve players are just shit, I´m afraid. Not surprised that we lost.

Fixed

I've always assumed '4-3-3' was more of a blanket term on here for anything other than flat 4-4-2. yup

That's an easy reaction, but considering we paid Alan Smith and Joey Barton circa £60k I can see why he would want more, and he deserves it. People feel Ba is the best striker since Alan Shearer was here, and even he was on £50k a week from 1996. I'd prefer Ba kept his salary at £40k or a bit over but was offered a large bonus per goal. The more he scores the more he earns seems fair. That´s in the past. We can´t get players salaries after how much Smith earned. There is a different time now where clubs is starting to stop giving stupid moneys to players. In one way I can understand that Ba wants more. But you shouldn´t feed a ego big enough already with goal bonuses.

No matter what he does I will never really like him. Seems to have a bad and selfish character and Pardew is doing nothing about it.

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I don´t like Pardews view at football and that´s why I wan´t him to go no matter what. He has been here 2 years and we are still not playing any better than when he came, we just have different types of players. Ashley is a idiot when it comes to football and dosen´t care about the clubs results. That, and that it´s hard to get a good manager now, means that I´m willing to give him more time to save us from the relegation. But if we still are in real danger come a few more months from now, he just have to go. But as I said earlier, no matter what, I would sack him at the end of the season with the argument "thanks Pardew, but we feel that you have taken us so far you can..."

I just can´t for my life believe how so many managers at this high level seems to think that, especially in England. No wounder the national team constantly fails.

Every pre-match thread Admittedly not by the same posters, mind. can´t believe it either. Of course the season is dead and I´m scared it will only get worse...

Sometimes football is just to much.

No matter what teams we are playing we just can´t creating anything, just defending. Yes it was better, especially the players seemed up for it, but it was one game. I wouldn´t say that from now things will only get better.

Sick of this now. He can leave and take Pardew with him.

Some of the most shameless backpedalling from you of late after the way you've spent the last eighteen months up the man's arse. No backpeddling whatsoever. He's done a good job and I like him and don't want him sacked. Doesn't mean I can't criticise because he's done a dreadful job of late. Thing is, neither of us wanted him appointed and only one of us was truly prepared to get behind him as NUFC manager. Why would anyone get behind someone who clearly wasn't good enough? It is to NUFC supporters' eternal shame that we didn't give this plum the reception that Benitez got at Chelsea. We clapped along and beat Liverpool and enough mugs convinced themselves that he was up to it. That's ridiculous. You'd rather we barracked him off the pitch and ruin the already low chance of any decent manager wanting to work with us for all eternity? Not to mention negating the entirety of last season. We already had a decent manager and sacked him. Remember?

If they come to defend we stand a far better chance than we do if they come here and have a go. --- We improved tonight and while it wasn't great there are positives to be taken in to the Wigan game, just need to have a go. I agree and we could turn our season around against Wigan. We won´t turn around any season regardless of results. Maybe we can scrap some results and leave the worst danger, but turning around the season... nah.

Can´t get my head around this "Krul is shit he can´t kick". His not. But it´s Pardew that want´s him to do it.