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A couple years ago it looked like Stoke were putting together a decent side. However, looking at heir starting 11 today, it really is pretty poor. Hughes seems to have wasted a decent amount there, such as Berahino.

You can quote as many variables as you like the fact is that we could and should have been blown out of sight with the chances they missed. People mention the 35 minute mark but really there was no vast improvement until the subs were made. It has been flogged to death now though and there is a massive split in opinion on the game which won’t be changed. Healthy that there is discussion but I think we should all just leave it now and move on. I’m not going to change my opinion, HTT is not, you’re not and I doubt anyone else will either. Actually, the fact is that we didn't Also, changing opinions is moot anyway as it has no baring whatsoever on Benitez or the players or anything that happens on the pitch. Well let’s all close the forum and all go home then! What are these chances they should have blown us away with? They had 4 good chances in that first half, scoring one of them. Anyway that’s not my point, my point is that when you totally surrender everything to a team like that you are just begging them to score and we all know from the past that when we do concede against the better teams we usually concede a few more. On another day those tactics would have lead to a half-time drubbing renderimg any second half game plan obsolete from our point of view and no doubt more and more goals against. We got lucky and as the game wore on we created chances of our own which would have happened anyway, City always give you a chance or two. Again I wasn’t looking for us to go at them from the off or go toe to toe, I just don’t like nor accept the total surrender at home that was those first 35 minutes or so. It’s suicide football far more than it would have been going at them as has been the argument well made on here. Just IMO of course. I’ll let sleeping dogs lie as it’s been argued to death now. What were the four good chances? Genuinely not sure. The Aguero header was certainly not a wasted chance. It was a good header that was well saved. Maybe Aguero at the far post but that was really a half chance if anything. It wasn't easy at all. We werent't lucky. We defended well and restricted them to long range shots. With the number of chances they had a goal is reasonable. No team scores 3 or 4 from the number of chances, and the type of chances they got.

You can quote as many variables as you like the fact is that we could and should have been blown out of sight with the chances they missed. People mention the 35 minute mark but really there was no vast improvement until the subs were made. It has been flogged to death now though and there is a massive split in opinion on the game which won’t be changed. Healthy that there is discussion but I think we should all just leave it now and move on. I’m not going to change my opinion, HTT is not, you’re not and I doubt anyone else will either. Actually, the fact is that we didn't Also, changing opinions is moot anyway as it has no baring whatsoever on Benitez or the players or anything that happens on the pitch. Well let’s all close the forum and all go home then! What are these chances they should have blown us away with?

I don't think anyone is saying that. The fact of the matter is that when we pushed on later on we weren't a million miles off of getting a result. Was the first 30 minutes a little too defensive, sure. I don't think Rafa wanted us to play that little though. Our players just struggled to retain any kind of possession. Rafa was trying to get the players to push out a bit further. But at the end of the day, with one of the worst squads in the league, against one of the best teams in the world (and certainly most in form), we were probably closer to picking up a point than the majority of the Premier League this season. I am reasonably satisfied with that.

Astounded at some of the posts on here tonight. It really doesn’t get any more simple than we’d have been hammered if we’d ‘had a go’ tonight with this squad. We’d all love our team to have had a go, but we haven’t got the quality to do it yet until, please god, we are rid of Ashley and can buy better quality. The fact is, we were a goal line clearance off a draw here. With this squad. The tactics and game plan were spot on. I’m astounded that people think the way we played for most of the game was the right way especially the first half. It wasn’t as if allowing city so much space, time and just do as they like with the ball restricted them to one or two chances they could and should have had 5 plus with all the chances they had. You do not allow teams like city to be able to basically walk the ball towards the goal. The only reason we were only one down was due to city having an off day in front of goal. Or maybe our defence and GK were able to restrict them to shots from distance and half-chances from awkward angles. Not having that like. Apart from two good saves by Elliott, I don't remember them missing any glaring chances. Yeah, Gary Neville kept on going on about how they should have had 4 or 5 but had an off day in front of goal. I genuinely can't remember them wasting many clear chances at all.

For a second I thought you were talking about Keys.

We didn't know he was playing with an injury. It clearly was affecting his performances.

He's also the only vocal organiser we have in our entire back line.

Probably more of a bargaining point. If she knows Ashley isn't going to invest in January, there is a good chance the club will be relegated and the value of the club will be massively damaged. So That gives her a strong bargaining point and can just say that she shouldn't have to make a purchase that is reliant of her to invest additional money to make the basic price she paid him worth her while. I've explained that really badly.

Depends if you prefer incompetence or vindictiveness.

Yeah, if anyone sees that flag and thinks we're saying that we are never going to lose, they need their heads checked. The meaning behind it is fairly obvious.

Is that even still a thing? The Mirror's logo is still at the bottom of the club's website alongside other sponsors, if that means anything. Definitely not the preferred media partner. Confirmed by Mirror reporter a while back.

Better than ever for me, particularly the televised games. The West Brom game was probably the worst and I got something in the end anyway. I'm struggling to find consistent good ones this year. I have an android box but haven't used it for a couple years as I wasn't sure where to get the streams. The ones on reddit and the like have been very inconsistent.

Is that really most fans' issue with Mike Ashley? I know it's not mine anyway it's more to do with the fact that he's a c*** towards the club I think it's just because people hate Ashley and it's a stick to beat him with. If he were the ideal owner, investing money into the club, a lot more people would probably be going with the line "it's giving the employees flexibility in how much they work", etc.

Hughton? Wasn't in the premier league when he got the job.

Does he f***, he has zero tactical awareness. Less so attacking awareness. That'll be why Everton were s*** for the entire time he was there then. He's not very good, but that obvious hyperbole from you. Their football was often s*** and for every decent season there was a poor one. He also spent a fair bit. He did a reasonable job at Everton all things considered no denying, but Martinez got them into the top 6 so it was no miracle job. Moyes is an awful manager whose sides cannot defend or attack coherently on a consistent basis which tells you he's, well, no good. I'd far rather have Bilic any day of the week. I'm not commenting on who's better. But I heard a journalist on the Radio a couple months back say that apparently within managerial groups Bilic's tactical nous is something of a running joke.

And counting... Edit - just looked and he has 3 red cards in his entire career ffs A ‘walking red card’ according to some. Not seen red since May 2016. 4 in his time with us (I'm counting the suspension this season obviously). Which is a red card every 15 matches or so. 3 if you're counting the suspension. Two reds in the first season, and 0 in the second season. You're right. The site I used to look up the suspensions listed one of his suspensions twice. Still, he's had a lot more than 3 in his career and is still averaging a red card every 20 matches or so. That'd work out nearly 2 a season, which is clearly bad.

And counting... Edit - just looked and he has 3 red cards in his entire career ffs A ‘walking red card’ according to some. Not seen red since May 2016. 4 in his time with us (I'm counting the suspension this season obviously). Which is a red card every 15 matches or so.

We're still closer to 4th than the relegation places. We're nowhere near in a relegation battle.

Will they not have an initial rough price agreed before they start due diligence? Then they'd try and knock it down based on the things they've seen in the books?

For £30m?

Done it for ages. When Watford were promoted he was asked what stadium he was most looking forward to and he said St. James'.

I would say it's going exactly as Ashley's 'people' have planned it. In what way? Clearly Amanda Stavely doesn't exist and in fact was made up by Mike Ashley in coalition the american government to distract inquisitive Geordie minds from discovering the real story behind the Las Vegas shooting. It's all a False Flag cover up.

According to Business for Dummies 60 days.

That Man City move would be ideal for me. And that is what really matters.